Doc Samson vs Colossus

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I like how you cling to the fact Colossus said Hulk looked weak but neglect to mention Colossus ammending that comment to not being as weak as he thought.

In fact, that's what he was doing, pouring water on himself, when Colossus noticed he looked weak AND DISORIENTED. Hulk had his back turned, was sitting down, and was pouring water over his body to cool the burns.

Then Colossus attacked him.

Nice of you to ignore Kitty saving Peter's ass too.

Samson didn't have a Dragon or girlfriend to run interference for him, save his ass, or torch the Hulk.

Originally posted by zopzop
I like how you keep ignoring the fact that Lockheed's fire wrecked Hulk badly. Not only did he run away screaming, he purposely sought out water to soothe his wounds.

In fact, that's what he was doing, pouring water on himself, when Colossus noticed he looked weak AND DISORIENTED. Hulk had his back turned, was sitting down, and was pouring water over his body to cool the burns.

Then Colossus attacked him.

Nice of you to ignore Kitty saving Peter's ass too.

Samson didn't have a Dragon or girlfriend to run interference for him, save his ass, or torch the Hulk.

BTW you have scans of Samson getting one-shotted by She-Hulk and getting beat up by Luke Cage?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Still don't change the fact that Colossus stated Hulk wasn't as weak as he thought.

BTW you have scans of Samson getting one-shotted by She-Hulk and getting beat up by Luke Cage?

Being punched across state lines isn't the same as "one shotting" and it's sure as hell isn't the same as being staggered by a kick to the face by Storm.

Originally posted by zopzop
He wasn't one shotted by She Hulk. She punched him out of state. When did Luke Cage beat up Samson?

Being punched across state lines isn't the same as "one shotting" and it's sure as hell isn't the same as being staggered by a kick to the face by Storm.

Originally posted by zopzop
He wasn't one shotted by She Hulk. She punched him out of state. When did Luke Cage beat up Samson?

Being punched across state lines isn't the same as "one shotting" and it's sure as hell isn't the same as being staggered by a kick to the face by Storm.

PR already stated that that kick isn't valid as it has as much actual standing as Spidey beating Firelord. It's bull and PIS. You know it, why do you keep bringing it up?

Originally posted by zopzop

Except Samson didn't have a dragon friend fry the sh|t out of the Hulk causing him to run away screaming. Or a girlfriend to jump in and save him from getting his ass handed to him by phasing him out of harm's way.

See the difference?

Even aside from the sucker punch, Samson has gone toe to toe with Savage Hulk for HOURS unassisted by super friends.

A still-green teenage Colossus got smacked around by Marvel's top brick, the Incredible Hulk, within seconds of the fight, as is usually the case. Colossus' friends stalled Hulk long enough for Colossus to get up and knock out the Hulk in a direct confrontation.

You're trying to downplay that with one instance of an adult Rapunzelesque Doc Samson fighting the Hulk for six hours without ever gaining a significant edge over him, and another where he managed to knockout Hulk with a sucker punch.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah and Doc's sucker attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colossus'.

What are you talking about? That tackle worked perfectly. Took Hulk down, right? Tackles aren't really intended to knock people out.

How did Samson fare against World War Hulk compared to Colossus? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he get backhanded along with the rest of the New Avengers from the get go?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Punched out of state? That's worse yet. Cage was beating up Samson during Civil War.

@ Eternal Idol
AFTER Lockheed FRIED Hulk(this was the cause of him running away, seeking to soothe his wounds, and seeming "disoriented and weak"😉 and Kitty saved Colossus.

So it evens out.

Originally posted by zopzop
Nothing is worse than that incident that between those two X-Men. Nothing.

@ Eternal Idol
AFTER Lockheed FRIED Hulk(this was the cause of him running away, seeking to soothe his wounds, and seeming "disoriented and weak"😉 and Kitty saved Colossus.

So it evens out.

Like Lockheed's fire would ever pose a problem for Hulk. Because it happened in an X-book, though, it managed to hurt him some and scare the shit out of him like he was Frankenstein's monster. Anyhow, it didn't hurt him badly enough, as Colossus noted. Either way, Hulk still has his ridiculous healing factor.

And no, getting burnt didn't contribute to the knockout. Impact sufficient enough to rattle your brain inside your skull causes knockouts. That was all Colossus.

Yeah, WWH one hit Samson whereas Colossus temporarily stood his ground against WWHulk.

Originally posted by carver9
@DTM...

Thanks buddy (unfortunately the pictues on these links are all thumbnail sized, and dont get bigger when I click on them, but its the thought that counts here)

Originally posted by DTM
Thanks buddy (unfortunately the pictues on these links are all thumbnail sized, and dont get bigger when I click on them, but its the thought that counts here)

Clicking on took me to the photobucket site.

http://s663.beta.photobucket.com/user/ankur29/media/X-MenVsHulk009.jpg.html

You can just flip through there.

Originally posted by cdtm
Clicking on took me to the photobucket site.

http://s663.beta.photobucket.com/user/ankur29/media/X-MenVsHulk009.jpg.html

You can just flip through there.

Yep, I went there as well, thing is the pictures are all thumbnail sized, and they dont seem to get bigger when clicked.

Originally posted by DTM
Yep, I went there as well, thing is the pictures are all thumbnail sized, and they dont seem to get bigger when clicked.

ah you're on mobile photobucket aren't you? I only got rid of that pain in the ass recently. Click a long blue link at the bottom of the mini page and everything should go back to normal. 🙂

Yeah, it goes to Mobile Photobucket automatically.....is that not good? 😛

And what long blue link, the View Full Website link?

nope it sucks.

yes sir 👆 that one exactly.

Awesome, that seemed to work, thats buddy.

Horrendous showing for Hulk, I wouldnt be too proud of Colossus beating THAT showing of Hulk (especially since Peter needed some pretty crucious help to do so). Not even sure Id even call that a win for Colossus really.

This sentinel is sent to get Samson and is specifically designed for his strength and durability. Colossus gets slapped around, but Rogue absorbs Samson's strength to fight it.

http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sentinel13iu.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sentinel26ht.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sentinel3jpg7vt.jpg

Samson vs. Hulk. IH #193
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http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk193e1qc.jpg

Samson (w/ SHIELD) vs. Hulk. IH #199

that didn't hold the Hulk for long so Samson had to jump back into the fray...

Samson fights mindless hulk for six hours straight, btw mindless hulk was stronger than savage hulk

http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317a9vq.jpg
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http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317g3rx.jpg

Samson takes on his favorite sparring partner again. An important note is that Samson's probably not at 100%. He'd taken quite a beating from Woodgod and several Changelings and was in and out of consciousness for hours before he went in search of Rick, Betty, and Hulk. Still, he holds his own. IH #253

http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk253a2ok.jpg
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http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk253c2ym.jpg

Hulk vs samson again from IH 226. Don't know how long the fight went on before the reinforcements arrived. (For the record: Hulk jumped Samson at the end of the previous issue.)

http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk226a9ag.jpg
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http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk226f3jc.jpg

Samson and the Hulkbusters vs. Byrne's Animal-Hulk. Samson is eventually knocked unconscious but only after some hours of fighting. IH #320.
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6361/samsonhulk320a4xf.jpg

Interlude, then...
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6199/samsonhulk320b1tp.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/7856/samsonhulk320c3mo.jpg

Another interlude...
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4205/samsonhulk320d9ar.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1552/samsonhulk320e7ex.jpg

Another interlude...
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3028/samsonhulk320f8xp.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4817/samsonhulk320g8fs.jpg

Another interlude...
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/8589/samsonhulk320h1bl.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4873/samsonhulk320i7yg.jpg

Samson, mind-controlled, takes on the Rick Jones' "Hulk." IH #330
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8016/samsonhulk330a4pb.jpg
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5464/samsonhulk330b9mg.jpg

Following that last punch, "Hulk" isn't seen for a couple of pages. Notice that the mutant speculates that his control over Samson is affecting Samson's power.

Some feats for samson. He is getting lowballed here as much as colossus.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This sentinel is sent to get Samson and is specifically designed for his strength and durability. Colossus gets slapped around, but Rogue absorbs Samson's strength to fight it.

http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sentinel13iu.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sentinel26ht.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sentinel3jpg7vt.jpg

[b]Samson vs. Hulk. IH #193
http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk193a1do.jpg
http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk193b9wy.jpg
http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk193c6mo.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk193d3ne.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk193e1qc.jpg

Samson (w/ SHIELD) vs. Hulk. IH #199

that didn't hold the Hulk for long so Samson had to jump back into the fray...

Samson fights mindless hulk for six hours straight, btw mindless hulk was stronger than savage hulk

http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317a9vq.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317b0hj.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317c3uu.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317d7gl.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317e6yx.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317f2qu.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk317g3rx.jpg

Samson takes on his favorite sparring partner again. An important note is that Samson's probably not at 100%. He'd taken quite a beating from Woodgod and several Changelings and was in and out of consciousness for hours before he went in search of Rick, Betty, and Hulk. Still, he holds his own. IH #253

http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk253a2ok.jpg
http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk253b4vj.jpg
http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk253c2ym.jpg

Hulk vs samson again from IH 226. Don't know how long the fight went on before the reinforcements arrived. (For the record: Hulk jumped Samson at the end of the previous issue.)

http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk226a9ag.jpg
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk226b2dy.jpg
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk226c4qd.jpg
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk226d2sm.jpg
http://img326.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk226e8lh.jpg
http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samsonhulk226f3jc.jpg

Samson and the Hulkbusters vs. Byrne's Animal-Hulk. Samson is eventually knocked unconscious but only after some hours of fighting. IH #320.
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6361/samsonhulk320a4xf.jpg

Interlude, then...
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6199/samsonhulk320b1tp.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/7856/samsonhulk320c3mo.jpg

Another interlude...
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4205/samsonhulk320d9ar.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1552/samsonhulk320e7ex.jpg

Another interlude...
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3028/samsonhulk320f8xp.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4817/samsonhulk320g8fs.jpg

Another interlude...
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/8589/samsonhulk320h1bl.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4873/samsonhulk320i7yg.jpg

Samson, mind-controlled, takes on the Rick Jones' "Hulk." IH #330
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8016/samsonhulk330a4pb.jpg
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5464/samsonhulk330b9mg.jpg

Following that last punch, "Hulk" isn't seen for a couple of pages. Notice that the mutant speculates that his control over Samson is affecting Samson's power.

Some feats for samson. He is getting lowballed here as much as colossus. [/B]

There are a few fav's that get too much wank on this site. Hulk, Supes, Wolverine, Thor, etc..

Most everyone else gets lowballed. It's pretty predictable.

I agree, Doc Samson does get lowballed. 😄

But Xmen wankery, what you gonna do? ^_^

Originally posted by zopzop
Doc Samson and Colossus have both sucker attacked Hulk. Only one of them KOed him for HOURS with one punch and didn't have a dragon or girlfriend help him.