silver surfer vs darkseid

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has shown more power than Izaya. We can play this game all you want. His hand blasts took him down but didn't disintegrate him. That's the whole point.

No, it wasn't. That's just your opinion and I find that people who continually cite cis/pis are showing off their bias and disregard what they don't like.

I repeat an was very clear in the fact Ds needed his eyes to fire his ultimate blast to kill Superman and without it he submitted. All you have proven is how inconsistent the terminology in regards to Ds's powers dc has been. I never disagreed with that. Apokolips now explained it. My theory is backed up by continuity and an actual showing. Yours isn't.

facepalm to Quan resurrecting this thread, just to respond to people who already lost interest in it.

SS is not to be compared, plain and simple.

before anyone brings it up, superman can occassionally beat DS because he's superman.........and if you need a better explanation than that, then you're asking for more than anyone could ever give you.lol

Originally posted by namorsubby
SS is not to be compared, plain and simple.

before anyone brings it up, superman can occassionally beat DS because he's superman.........and if you need a better explanation than that, then you're asking for more than anyone could ever give you.lol

my best guess is, there's still a little bit of "superman can do anything-itis" floating around the DC storyboard rooms............damn that silver age superman.lol

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Continuity? More like crappy writing and poor logic. I'm of the opinion that PIS shouldn't be admissible in debates. And guess what? The forum rules agree with me.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
facepalm to Quan resurrecting this thread, just to respond to people who already lost interest in it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are saying his hand blasts can disintegrate though we have never seen them do so. The burden of proof is on you. I have a direct statement backing up my stance word for word. I win.

I returned to the forum to I responded to arguments I couldn't. Plain and simple. 🙂

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And again I maintain that its the same power with all the same abilities and limitations just a different point of origin and visual appearance. The burden of proof is on you to prove that its not the Omega Effect that powers his hand blasts since the OE is his only source of power, before he mastered it he was like Desaad, a New God who's only real obvious power was immortality.

as nice a showing as apokolips now is for superman, it's one of the single worst portrayals of darkseid since COIE. it's really THAT bad.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you want to claim he can disintegrate someone with hand blasts the point is on you. You made the claim not back it up. Terminology and inconsistent writing is all you have. An backs up my claim word for word.

Originally posted by -Pr-
as nice a showing as apokolips now is for superman, it's one of the single worst portrayals of darkseid since COIE. it's really THAT bad.

Originally posted by -Pr-
as nice a showing as apokolips now is for superman, it's one of the single worst portrayals of darkseid since COIE. it's really THAT bad.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How so? I know a lot of people disagree with Superman beating him but when his omega effect fails Darkseid can't beat down Superman imo. Superman's back was up against the wall and he beat him down. They usually fight to a stalemate anyways and Ds is always firing those omega beams so I don't see why this is such a terrible showing. Honest.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He doesn't seem to understand the concept of PIS.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The crap part was that Darkseid should have been able to heal his eyes if he needed them (he doesn't IMO).

Originally posted by quanchi112
How so? I know a lot of people disagree with Superman beating him but when his omega effect fails Darkseid can't beat down Superman imo. Superman's back was up against the wall and he beat him down. They usually fight to a stalemate anyways and Ds is always firing those omega beams so I don't see why this is such a terrible showing. Honest.

they wrote darkseid like an imbecilic tard.

Originally posted by -Pr-
they wrote darkseid like an imbecilic tard.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I repeat an was very clear in the fact Ds needed his eyes to fire his ultimate blast to kill Superman and without it he submitted. All you have proven is how inconsistent the terminology in regards to Ds's powers dc has been. I never disagreed with that.

It might seem that way to someone with a learning disability. What I actually pointed out is that it's all the same stuff. From the same source.

Originally posted by Spire
It might seem that way to someone with a learning disability. What I actually pointed out is that it's all the same stuff. From the same source.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's different writers using different terminology. They don't all use the same terminology when describing his beams. We have never seen his beams destroy anyone on panel. Like usual the evidence supports me and you like most ignorant posters don't realize that writers like posters such as yourself as susceptible to inconsistency and not being on the same page.

Originally posted by Spire
Which comes back to the original point.

Omega Force. Eyes. Hands. Omega Force.

Going by your less logical POV some/all of the following :

Darkseid's eyeballs, which he received during a trip down in Mexico contain Omega Force.

Darkseid doesn't possess/contain the Omega Force.

Darkseid can't use handblasts as he has no Omega Force.

If somehow his hands did glow, its because he is using the Jolly Force which is completely different from Omega Force.

Originally posted by Spire