silver surfer vs darkseid

Started by -Pr-39 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
His honor made him accept the challenge. With as many appearances by Darkseid you will have a few bad/off showings but I don't see this as one of them. If you take away the omega effect Superman wins a vast majority if not every single time in my book.

it was probably his lowest showing of all.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it was probably his lowest showing of all.
Lower than batman kicking him? Although nowadays I don't think that is canon. Lower than raker having his way with him? So in your mind Superman shouldn't beat Darkseid.

Pretty much all of his bad showings are against Superman. Whenever he fights someone that isn't Superman he's a skyfather but its like he becomes High Herald when Superman shows up. Two words: jobber aura. Really a battle between them should end quickly with Darkseid depowering Superman, he's depowered much stronger beings (Secret).

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lower than batman kicking him? Although nowadays I don't think that is canon. Lower than raker having his way with him? So in your mind Superman shouldn't beat Darkseid.

batman kicks everyone. its a thing he does.

Superman Batman is canon, though, yes.

and no. i think Superman can beat Darkseid. Just not the way it went down in Apokolips Now. It was a shambles.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lower than batman kicking him? Although nowadays I don't think that is canon. Lower than raker having his way with him? So in your mind Superman shouldn't beat Darkseid.

Him getting a nosebleed from the batkick? That's not a low showing, that's a high showing because his face didn't explode. 😂
But in all seriousness that was when Darkseid was close to powerless. This was the same Darkseid that tripped down stairs.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pretty much all of his bad showings are against Superman. Whenever he fights someone that isn't Superman he's a skyfather but its like he becomes High Herald when Superman shows up. Two words: jobber aura. Really a battle between them should end quickly with Darkseid depowering Superman, he's depowered much stronger beings (Secret).
Point me to these showings of Darkseid manhandling Superman level characters with his fists, please.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The proof and the apokolips now showing make this a landslide in my favor.

So you agree to the following?

Originally posted by Spire
Going by your less logical POV some/all of the following :

Darkseid's eyeballs, which he received during a trip down in Mexico contain Omega Force.

Darkseid doesn't possess/contain the Omega Force.

Darkseid can't use handblasts as he has no Omega Force.

If somehow his hands did glow, its because he is using the Jolly Force which is completely different from Omega Force.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Him getting a nosebleed from the batkick? That's not a low showing, that's a high showing because his face didn't explode. 😂
But in all seriousness that was when Darkseid was close to powerless. This was the same Darkseid that tripped down stairs.
This was after Darkseid got his powers back. That wasn't before to my knowledge.

Originally posted by Spire
So you agree to the following?
Darkseid can't disintegrate anyone from hand blasts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Point me to these showings of Darkseid manhandling Superman level characters with his fists, please.

Kalibak, Orion, Mantis, Captain Atom, Blasphemy, SUPERMAN in OWAW, Superboy, Slobo, Etrigan, Countdown Jimmy Olsen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid can't disintegrate anyone from hand blasts.

I already told you in another thread, I'm not going to put up with your bullshit, it takes too long. Answer the question or GTFO.

Do you agree to the following

Originally posted by Spire
Going by your less logical POV some/all of the following :

Darkseid's eyeballs, which he received during a trip down in Mexico contain Omega Force.

Darkseid doesn't possess/contain the Omega Force.

Darkseid can't use handblasts as he has no Omega Force.

If somehow his hands did glow, its because he is using the Jolly Force which is completely different from Omega Force.

Originally posted by Spire
I already told you in another thread, I'm not going to put up with your bullshit, it takes too long. Answer the question or GTFO.

Do you agree to the following

I don't need to answer your flaming questions as my scan and my stance are both supported by years of appearances.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't need to answer your flaming questions as my scan and my stance are both supported by years of appearances.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't need to answer your flaming questions as my scan and my stance are both supported by years of appearances.
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More like your scan and your stance are supported by...your scan and your stance and that's it.

Originally posted by Spire
Concession accepted.
I didn't concede.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
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More like your scan and your stance are supported by...your scan and your stance and that's it.
If you have a scan where Ds erases someone via handblast I will concede. if you don't then you must concede as you have zero proof.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I didn't concede. If you have a scan where Ds erases someone via handblast I will concede. if you don't then you must concede as you have zero proof.

Get this through your thick skull: the hand blasts differ from the eyebeams only in appearance and point of origin. Their power source is the same, I return to my heat blast/vision analogy: the hypothetical heat blasts would emanate from his hands instead of his eyes but its still the same thing so even if we don't see him melting things with his heat blasts it would take a retard to think that they couldn't.
Besides its not as if you'd concede anyway Quan, seeing isn't believing for you, nor is logic. Keep it up and I'll be forced to for the first time since I started using the internet put someone on ignore.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Get this through your thick skull: the hand blasts differ from the eyebeams only in appearance and point of origin. Their power source is the same, I return to my heat blast/vision analogy: the hypothetical heat blasts would emanate from his hands instead of his eyes but its still the same thing so even if we don't see him melting things with his heat blasts it would take a retard to think that they couldn't.
Besides its not as if you'd concede anyway Quan, seeing isn't believing for you, nor is logic. Keep it up and I'll be forced to for the first time since I started using the internet put someone on ignore.
Seeing is believing. That's the thing you can't prove it while my scan says you are wrong. That's why I am rarely wrong because my opinions are based on what I read and see.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Seeing is believing. That's the thing you can't prove it while my scan says you are wrong. That's why I am rarely wrong because my opinions are based on what I read and see.

Rarely wrong? Surely sir you jest. Your scan is from a comic that 90% of the forum agrees is shitty PIS. And besides you're the one who's usually arguing against an entire room because your interpretations are usually minority views with little basis in fact and evincing an unhealthy, warped mind.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Rarely wrong? Surely sir you jest. Your scan is from a comic that 90% of the forum agrees is shitty PIS. And besides you're the one who's usually arguing against an entire room because your interpretations are usually minority views with little basis in fact and evincing an unhealthy, warped mind.
Then provide a scan of him erasing someone with a hand blast. If you don't have one example I could call the omega force from his hands pis. Either way he hasn't erased anyone outside his eye blasts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then provide a scan of him erasing someone with a hand blast. If you don't have one example I could call the omega force from his hands pis. Either way he hasn't erased anyone outside his eye blasts.

Listen to me you logic-bankrupt piece of shit: the OE from the hands isn't different from the one from the eyes and he has disintegrated people with eyebeams, ergo he can disintegrate with handblasts. Even if he couldn't (and he can) he's beaten Superman in the past with the OE without disintegrating him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Listen to me you logic-bankrupt piece of shit: the OE from the hands isn't different from the one from the eyes and he has disintegrated people with eyebeams, ergo he can disintegrate with handblasts. Even if he couldn't (and he can) he's beaten Superman in the past with the OE without disintegrating him.
The an showing states as much. You have zero proof. Don't be mad that you cannot back up your case with one single instance of him doing so.