silver surfer vs darkseid

I'll use some, yes. Why wouldn't I? He hasn't been depowered since then and they are all valid sooooooooo....your point?

Yes, I know. Supes has been stalemating Ds since the mid eighties. Ds can win a few but I see the majority of uninterrupted fights going in the man of steel's direction. I am not saying these feats are not valid for Ds. I don't know where I even stated as much. I simply said he is nowhere near his badass precrisis levels.

How wasn't he? Atrocitus wasn't fresh as a daisy either and he owned Lar. He's much cooler than Lar anyways and he seems more of an idiot as each showing comes his way. Loved how Sinestro talked to him.

Because he was distracted. Not because he was engaging him in battle. You wouldn't take a battlezone. You will just sit on the sidelines like you always do. Heh.

No, I am justifying my opinion which was correct then. I didn't have a crystal ball I am just smarter than you. I knew he was going to be nowhere near as effective as you thought he was and that it was just a matter of time.

Every topic you post in is full or ignorance. Keep waiting on the sidelines. I am a doer while you aren't. That's the difference between us. That and I read marvel comics.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, DO A BATTLE ZONE

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You just made my point!

But we aren't talking about PC, we are talking about 95.

If Larfleeze was at full power, he would have 100,000 % Power in his ring, he'd have his lantern, and his Orange Lanterns. He had none of them. He was even taken by surprise and was running getting ready to get killed by the Black Lanterns

Good, then this would be new to me. I challenged you just now, and it seems as if you are backing down. Will you do a battle zone? Me representing Larfleeze and you the Red Lantern. Don't worry, it will be quick.

Funny, you haven't proven nothing. You talk as if you knew waht was going to happen, but it seems like you are wrong. Larfleeze didn't get own, he actually owned Atrocitus in one hit. The same guy who is capable of taking major characters like Hal, Sinestro..etc.

YOu can read them all you want. As you have proven in the past couple of pages, you don't understand what you read.
You can be in a topic post, doesn't mean nothing. You derail a thread when you post. You start argument with people for idiotic reason, and you continue to be a annoyance to all who post here. If not an annoyance, merely someone who people laugh at. I suspect that's why the mods keep you here.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, DO A BATTLE ZONE

He was taken one on one by Atrocitus. He didn't have his massive army of constructs and without them he lost.

I will take the Prime vs. Larfleeze one. That's the one I initially challenged you with. Atrocitus won't fare well if he has to go through a massive army of Larfleeze's. If Atrocitus gets his entire corps I am game.

Larfleeze cheapshotted him.

Entire red corps vs. orange corps sounds reasonable.

I never said you couldn't use his feats from 95. You are confused yet again.

He was taken one on one by Atrocitus. He didn't have his massive army of constructs and without them he lost.

I will take the Prime vs. Larfleeze one. That's the one I initially challenged you with. Atrocitus won't fare well if he has to go through a massive army of Larfleeze's. If Atrocitus gets his entire corps I am game.

Larfleeze cheapshotted him

Entire red corps vs. orange corps sounds reasonable.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Funny, you said why use feats from long time ago. Those feat apparently are from 1995. Seems like you don't even understand what you are arguing about

Are you an idiot? Do I need to post again what his powers are? Obviously, you are a troll

So now you are backing out? I see, so I guess you were trolling when you said Larfleeze lost to atrocitus.

yes, with the lantern, he was ready for the blast from the lantern. And for the record, Atrocitus cheap shotted him

So one man wielding a lantern vs a Corps?
I asked you a one vs on match not against a Corps. Do you decline??

I know what his powers are. Ds's powers also include total control over his parademons/shadow demons but when we do a vs. thread he doesn't get his massive army alongside him.

You want to have one entire corps vs. one red lantern.

Atrocitus can't fight through all of his constructs and then defeat Larfleeze. One on one he can defeat him.

Prime can fight through all of his constructs and zip right to him at any point.

He lost his army. Hell, his army was taken over. He still had his battery which is more than fair against the leader of the red lanterns. He still lost.

No, Atrocitus did not. He owned him. Larfleeze was running away begging for help.

I will do Atrocitus vs. Larfleeze without his army or Prime vs. Larfleeze with his army.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lol @ people putting Larfleeze down on line with lanterns and even guardians.

I never had a problem with anything from 95. You simply got confused. How many times do I have to tell you that?

I know what his powers are. Ds's powers also include total control over his parademons/shadow demons but when we do a vs. thread he doesn't get his massive army alongside him.

You want to have one entire corps vs. one red lantern.

Prime can fight through all of his constructs and zip right to him at any point.

He lost his army. Hell, his army was taken over. He still had his battery which is more than fair against the leader of the red lanterns. He still lost

I will do Atrocitus vs. Larfleeze without his army or Prime vs. Larfleeze with his army.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Aha, sure...

NO, it's not. The Orange Lanterns are construct, the SDs are not. Seems like you don't even understand Larfleeze

His power allows him to generate a corps, but he doesn't have corps. PLEASE READ GREEN LANTERN COMIC

.....Again, you bring up PRime! WHEN HAS PRIME ENTERED THIS DEBATE!! What the HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?? DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO STAY ON TOPIC!!!!

Which is why he didn't get amped by it, or get to use it before Atrocitus attacked him automatically, not to mention, Lafleeze still beat him

Okay, so now you are backing off

I have even mentioned that his army is an army of constructs I believe in this very thread. Memory and comprehension are not your strong suits.

I have read the green lantern comics. You know I have. Quit posturing, sport. The point is he and his constructs constitute his entire corps. It's completely unfair to pit the leader of the red against an entire corps hence the only reason you wanted this fight.

Because my point was always that characters with power on his level could wade through the constructs and decimate Lar. What made Lar formidable is he hid behind his constructs. The moment he lost them he begged for help and was owned by Atrocitus. I always claimed Lar didn't have superior strength and we have seen Hal and Atrocitus temporarily take his lantern battery away from him.

Larfleeze was already beaten and used a distraction to cheapshot Atrocitus. Had Atrocitus not attacked those constructs Larfleeze would have just been a muppet without a lantern.

You have my stipulations. I have never changed my stance, sport. Those are my terms. I never once said Atrocitus could beat his entire crops of constructs but we saw how he fared against Lar. He took his battery quite easily. Imagine all of the Guardians right up on him as well. Just like I always said without his corps he's not anywhere near as formidable. He's just a scared muppet.

Ps. I was right about everything. 😉

Darkseid=Thanos Level

Thanos>>Heralds

darkseid wins

You misunderstood. You usually do. You need to work on it.

I have even mentioned that his army is an army of constructs I believe in this very thread. Memory and comprehension are not your strong suits.

I have read the green lantern comics. You know I have. Quit posturing, sport. The point is he and his constructs constitute his entire corps. It's completely unfair to pit the leader of the red against an entire corps hence the only reason you wanted this fight.

Because my point was always that characters with power on his level could wade through the constructs and decimate Lar. What made Lar formidable is he hid behind his constructs. The moment he lost them he begged for help and was owned by Atrocitus. I always claimed Lar didn't have superior strength and we have seen Hal and Atrocitus temporarily take his lantern battery away from him.

I think I proved my point

Larfleeze was already beaten and used a distraction to cheapshot Atrocitus. Had Atrocitus not attacked those constructs Larfleeze would have just been a muppet without a lantern.

You have my stipulations. I have never changed my stance, sport. Those are my terms. I never once said Atrocitus could beat his entire crops of constructs but we saw how he fared against Lar. He took his battery quite easily. Imagine all of the Guardians right up on him as well. Just like I always said without his corps he's not anywhere near as formidable. He's just a scared muppet.

You take the ability of one man because you want to make it Fair 😂 Why don't you just take away the lantern and call it a day huh?
The fact that you admit Atrocitus can't beat Larfleeze at full power proves my point, this is why you wont take the battle zone. You can continue to say Atrocitus wins, but you are a coward and wont go on a battlezone against me.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Darkseid=Thanos Level

Thanos>>Heralds

darkseid wins

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think not

Rephrase, I don't understand what you are saying

It's part of his power, just like Hal has the ability to generate an entire corps to fight Larfleeze, Atrocitus should be able to as well, but his ring(power) doesn't allow that for much(very short timing). Unlike Atrocitus, Larfleeze has the ability to keep making them because ha has 100,000% of juice just by touching the lantern.

You act as if the Black LAnterns are your every day villains.
Immortal? Yes
Able to take your heart out easily(anyones)? Yes
Able to use their power? Yes
Able to mess with your head? Yes
Steal your Construct? Yes

I think I proved my point

You can keep saying it, if you don't accept the battle zone, obviously you know you will lose

LFMAO, either you were hit in the head when you were a baby or you are playing dumb.

You take the ability of one man because you want to make it Fair 😂 Why don't you just take away the lantern and call it a day huh?
The fact that you admit Atrocitus can't beat Larfleeze at full power proves my point, this is why you wont take the battle zone. You can continue to say Atrocitus wins, but you are a coward and wont go on a battlezone against me.

You won't get it if I do. You don't seem to get anything.

I never stated Atrocitus could beat his army of constructs, brah. I said if he fought him up close and personal he could beat him. He has hence my victory.

You rambled on about nothing that pertains to our discussion. You do it all the time so please don't start patting yourself on the back.

I'll do one with the stipulations I have laid forth. You running around wanting an unfair battlezone further shows your immense fear of me.

He can beat him without his army of constructs not with. I think you are sloth from the goonies.

You won't get it if I do. You don't seem to get anything.

I never stated Atrocitus could beat his army of constructs, brah. I said if he fought him up close and personal he could beat him. He has hence my victory.

You rambled on about nothing that pertains to our discussion. You do it all the time so please don't start patting yourself on the back.

I'll do one with the stipulations I have laid forth. You running around wanting an unfair battlezone further shows your immense fear of me. He can beat him without his army of constructs not with. I think you are sloth from the goonies.

I guess 100% Larfleeze>>100% Atrocitus Thanks again

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Yes because this really makes sense
"I have even mentioned that his army is an army of constructs"

😂 Hahaha
I guess you want
Larfleeze without his power to use Lanterns, and his opponent being 5 inches away from him

You just don't understand. You try to low ball Larfleeze about how weak he is, except the entire universe is dying to the same enemy

I guess this is you running away like a coward. THANKS YOU!!

I guess 100% Larfleeze>>100% Atrocitus Thanks again

I have said characters like Prime and Thanos could stomp him because they have the means to bypass his army and bring the fight to Lar. We have seen much weaker characters rip the battery off of him. It was no surprise that without his constructs Atrocitus also temporarily bested him.

He isn't without his powers he is without his army of constructs. 🙂

Lar just got his ass kicked by Atrocitus. he ran like a scared little girl from the black while Atrocitus just mans up. He constantly whines about what a bad week his having and how the guardians have screwed him.

Nope. I never once claimed Atrocitus could beat his entire corps. Not once. You claimed he could beat Prime as Prime couldn't get to his corps. You backing down? You made this claim while I never once made the claim you keep insinuating.

😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never ever once said Atrocitus could beat Larfleeze with an army fortifying him in. It's one lantern vs. one whole corps.

I have said characters like Prime and Thanos could stomp him because they have the means to bypass his army and bring the fight to Lar. We have seen much weaker characters rip the battery off of him. It was no surprise that without his constructs Atrocitus also temporarily bested him.

He isn't without his powers he is without his army of constructs. 🙂

Lar just got his ass kicked by Atrocitus. he ran like a scared little girl from the black while Atrocitus just mans up. He constantly whines about what a bad week his having and how the guardians have screwed him.

Nope. I never once claimed Atrocitus could beat his entire corps. Not once. You claimed he could beat Prime as Prime couldn't get to his corps. You backing down? You made this claim while I never once made the claim you keep insinuating.

😉

So please cut it out, you can't stay on topic, you keep changing directions. FIrst it's Atrocitus beat LArfleeze, then changing it slightly to yes he beat him when they fought fair. Then changing it to, Larfleeze isn't playing fair he has a corps. IT IS HIS F&^%ing power to create one.

So stop trolling

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Seems like you can't stay on topic, and at this point are trolling. You continue to act stupid saying that Larfleeze power is not to created construct that look like real Orange Lanterns. Unless you are calling them real beings? I guess you will say anything to try and win this argument.
Fact is, you now BROUGHT THANOS into this topic. It's bad enough you attacked me with the Larfleeze argument and then bring Superman Prime, but not you bring Thanos. You just don't understand how to stay on topic.
IF you can't acknowledge that Larfleeze power is to generate the power of an entire corps using construct then you aren't reading Green Lantern Comics.

So please cut it out, you can't stay on topic, you keep changing directions. FIrst it's Atrocitus beat LArfleeze, then changing it slightly to yes he beat him when they fought fair. Then changing it to, Larfleeze isn't playing fair he has a corps. IT IS HIS F&^%ing power to create one.

So stop trolling

I never once claimed what it is you have me claiming. I brought up something you claimed and now you want to drop it because like always I am right and you are wrong.

I do understand that and never once stated the leader of the red can defeat him with the assistance of his entire corps. Not once so your continual attempts to engage me in a battlezone regarding this matter have been a topic derailment.

I can acknowledge that what's worse is I never denied it. I never said Atrocitus can defeat him if he has to wade through these to even get to him. The point is I have always stated characters that can make their way to him can own him such as Thanos or Prime. The reason Atrocitus did so was because his constructs were overtaken. we saw how Lar can personally take someone on and he didn't fare so well.

Lar has nothing to do with this thread, k. Drop it. I am more than eager to continue arguing for the Surfer here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you changed the topic when you started your consistent posturing of challenging me to a battlezone. That isn't what this topic is about. Either pm me the challenge or let it die.

I never once claimed what it is you have me claiming. I brought up something you claimed and now you want to drop it because like always I am right and you are wrong.

I do understand that and never once stated the leader of the red can defeat him with the assistance of his entire corps. Not once so your continual attempts to engage me in a battlezone regarding this matter have been a topic derailment.

I can acknowledge that what's worse is I never denied it. I never said Atrocitus can defeat him if he has to wade through these to even get to him. The point is I have always stated characters that can make their way to him can own him such as Thanos or Prime. The reason Atrocitus did so was because his constructs were overtaken. we saw how Lar can personally take someone on and he didn't fare so well.

Lar has nothing to do with this thread, k. Drop it. I am more than eager to continue arguing for the Surfer here.

The only thing that you have done so far was put Thanos, and Prime in this argument. Whether you like it or not, you declined the Challenge and that's good enough

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you changed the topic when you started your consistent posturing of challenging me to a battlezone. That isn't what this topic is about. Either pm me the challenge or let it die.

I never once claimed what it is you have me claiming. I brought up something you claimed and now you want to drop it because like always I am right and you are wrong.

I do understand that and never once stated the leader of the red can defeat him with the assistance of his entire corps. Not once so your continual attempts to engage me in a battlezone regarding this matter have been a topic derailment.

I can acknowledge that what's worse is I never denied it. I never said Atrocitus can defeat him if he has to wade through these to even get to him. The point is I have always stated characters that can make their way to him can own him such as Thanos or Prime. The reason Atrocitus did so was because his constructs were overtaken. we saw how Lar can personally take someone on and he didn't fare so well.

Lar has nothing to do with this thread, k. Drop it. I am more than eager to continue arguing for the Surfer here.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I already challenged you.

The only thing that you have done so far was put Thanos, and Prime in this argument. Whether you like it or not, you declined the Challenge and that's good enough

I never once stated Atrocitus can defeat Larfleeze and all of his constructs.

You backed down from your claim while you misunderstood my own. Now get back on topic and quit derailing this thread with your battlezone challenges to claims I never made.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To a claim I never made. I challenged you to a claim you made.

I never once stated Atrocitus can defeat Larfleeze and all of his constructs.

You backed down from your claim while you misunderstood my own. Now get back on topic and quit derailing this thread with your battlezone challenges to claims I never made.

Larfleeze just got his lantern ripped off of him by Atrocitus. I was right and he's nowhere near Thanos level. Larfleeze is nowhere near you claimed him and I was right once again. How does it feel?

Then you said..

Atrocitus owned him one on one. Thanos also could teleport at any time right on top of Larfleeze.

then you claim that Larfleeze was at full power despite him not knowing he will get attacked by Atrocitus, or getting ready to use his corps, or anything like that

How wasn't he? Atrocitus wasn't fresh as a daisy either and he owned Lar. He's much cooler than Lar anyways and he seems more of an idiot as each showing comes his way. Loved how Sinestro talked to him.

Because he was distracted. Not because he was engaging him in battle. You wouldn't take a battlezone. You will just sit on the sidelines like you always do. Heh.

Then you change your argument to... You admitted that he only beat him one vs on without his constucts

He was taken one on one by Atrocitus. He didn't have his massive army of constructs and without them he lost.

Now you try to act as if army of Orange Lanterns aren't in Larfleeze power set

Atrocitus can't fight through all of his constructs and then defeat Larfleeze. One on one he can defeat him.

Seriously this is trolling and I don't know how the mods don't do anything

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If he isn't beating Thanos, he isn't beating Darkseid. 😬

It's just that Thanos does not lose to your conventional heroes.

Anyway am going with the boy Surfer ftw

Originally posted by kgkg
Terrible logic. It's not like Surfer hasn't defeated more powerful opponents than Thanos he has.

It's just that Thanos does not lose to your conventional heroes.

Anyway am going with the boy Surfer ftw