silver surfer vs darkseid

Started by quanchi11239 pages

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Ancient? You shouldn't be talking. After all, you are going to use Thor's feats which come from as far as the 70's
Thor's still the same badass he was in the 70's. What feats do I lean on from the 70's anyways?

You always speak on topics you don't have a clue on. You see other arguments and then pass them off as your own.

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman beating Darkseid isn't a measure of Darkseid jobbing, it's a testament to how bad-ass Superman is.
Correct. Supes imo is above Darkseid. I can even post an interview where another writer agrees.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor's still the same badass he was in the 70's. What feats do I lean on from the 70's anyways?

You always speak on topics you don't have a clue on. You see other arguments and then pass them off as your own.

Funny, for someone who most likely never read a Superman Comic. Then again, I don't expect you to even understand what you read.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor's still the same badass he was in the 70's. What feats do I lean on from the 70's anyways?

You always speak on topics you don't have a clue on. You see other arguments and then pass them off as your own.

Correct. Supes imo is above Darkseid. I can even post an interview where another writer agrees.


Writers aren't always good with power levels. I'm sure whoever wrote the issue where Spidey beat Firelord thought it was plausible, that doesn't mean it is in the slightest.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Funny, for someone who most likely never read a Superman Comic. Then again, I don't expect you to even understand what you read.
Which feats do I cling to from the 70's? You don't have a clue about half the scans I post anyways or events I am even referencing. I don't rely on Thor throwing people off into the solar system or hurricaning from his mouth.

You really don't have a clue like usual.

I've probably read more comics with Superman in them than you do. You foolishly claim Supes can erase Ds's entire body with his hv. You clearly don't understand much of anything.

Larfleeze just got his lantern ripped off of him by Atrocitus. I was right and he's nowhere near Thanos level. Larfleeze is nowhere near you claimed him and I was right once again. How does it feel?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Writers aren't always good with power levels. I'm sure whoever wrote the issue where Spidey beat Firelord thought it was plausible, that doesn't mean it is in the slightest.
That's one example. Superman's showings and feats more than crap all over Ds's embellished feats. Superman's stronger, more durable, more resourceful, and I don't even think his omegas can kill Superman in one full out blast. A writer even agrees with me.

Do you have any proof his omeags or writers that claim they'd erase Superman?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's one example. Superman's showings and feats more than crap all over Ds's embellished feats. Superman's stronger, more durable, more resourceful, and I don't even think his omegas can kill Superman in one full out blast. A writer even agrees with me.

Do you have any proof his omeags or writers that claim they'd erase Superman?


Jack Kirby King of Comics? He shits all over whatever hack you'd dig up to support your opinion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which feats do I cling to from the 70's? You don't have a clue about half the scans I post anyways or events I am even referencing. I don't rely on Thor throwing people off into the solar system or hurricaning from his mouth.

You really don't have a clue like usual.

I've probably read more comics with Superman in them than you do. You foolishly claim Supes can erase Ds's entire body with his hv. You clearly don't understand much of anything.

Larfleeze just got his lantern ripped off of him by Atrocitus. I was right and he's nowhere near Thanos level. Larfleeze is nowhere near you claimed him and I was right once again. How does it feel?


First of all, you can claim that you read more Superman, but to be honest, you don't seem like you do. It might be because you don't understand what you are reading because your are hoping that you see Thanos.

Second of all, if you had understood what I wrote, you wouldn't have even try to reply to my post. I never said you cling, I said you WILL post scan of Thor that can date back as far as the 70's. That's a fact whether you like it, or not.

Third of all, Larfleeze didn't even have his lanterns out and you try to low ball him. It just shows again that you just look at the pictures and you don't understand what you are reading again! I truly feel sorry for you. You read soo much comic from both DC and Marvel and yet you can't understand them.

If you had truly understand the issue, you would have realized that Larfleeze didn't have his Lanterns. He was take from surprised. Even then, he still has a Orange Ring so it wasn't a loss at all. Not to mention he KO'ed Atrocitus in about 1 good hit. It just shows how powerful he is. So it seems you must re-rad and do you need me to give you a link to a dictionary, and some common sense?? Obviously, you don't know what you are read. Worst of all, you are over 25 years of age.

lol @ people putting Larfleeze down on line with lanterns and even guardians.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lol @ people putting Larfleeze down on line with lanterns and even guardians.

Not people, just one insignificant troll who tries to low ball anyone except Thanos. Do you know who I am?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Jack Kirby King of Comics? He shits all over whatever hack you'd dig up to support your opinion.
That has little to do with the characters themselves. Seriously, I prefer Thanos and you prefer Darkseid but let's just stick to their showings and not make this about writer vs. writer.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
First of all, you can claim that you read more Superman, but to be honest, you don't seem like you do. It might be because you don't understand what you are reading because your are hoping that you see Thanos.

Second of all, if you had understood what I wrote, you wouldn't have even try to reply to my post. I never said you cling, I said you WILL post scan of Thor that can date back as far as the 70's. That's a fact whether you like it, or not.

Third of all, Larfleeze didn't even have his lanterns out and you try to low ball him. It just shows again that you just look at the pictures and you don't understand what you are reading again! I truly feel sorry for you. You read soo much comic from both DC and Marvel and yet you can't understand them.

If you had truly understand the issue, you would have realized that Larfleeze didn't have his Lanterns. He was take from surprised. Even then, he still has a Orange Ring so it wasn't a loss at all. Not to mention he KO'ed Atrocitus in about 1 good hit. It just shows how powerful he is. So it seems you must re-rad and do you need me to give you a link to a dictionary, and some common sense?? Obviously, you don't know what you are read. Worst of all, you are over 25 years of age.

Your post made no sense. I don't rely on Thor feats from the 70's, brah. The point is a crisis occurred in the dcu affecting generally everyone's power levels including darkseid's.

Now if Superman becamse a lot less powerful and Ds retained his power level from the 70's how does current Superman beat him? Hmmmmm?

I did understand them. Larfleeze isn't that impressive nor has he ever been. he's impressive when he fortifies himself behind an army of his corps but when you threaten him up close and personal he cowers and needed a distraction to get his lantern back

Atrocitus owned him one on one. Thanos also could teleport at any time right on top of Larfleeze. I kept telling you to wait until the arc was over, but it's much better this way to rub it in your face.

Larfleeze is some greedy little, stupid furball who whines and just wants everything. He is nowhere up there with serious powerhitters like Prime or Thanos. It was obvious from the get go but showins like his latest shows him for his true colors.

You don't grasp most of what occurs on this board and you attach yourself like a parasite to other people's arguments and then when pressed you can't even answer questions concerning the debates at hand.

He ko'd Atrocitus because his attention was taken away. Context one on one he owned Lar.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That has little to do with the characters themselves. Seriously, I prefer Thanos and you prefer Darkseid but let's just stick to their showings and not make this about writer vs. writer.

Says the guy who brought up writers in the first place.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Says the guy who brought up writers in the first place.
Because a writer handled a story concerning Darkseid and Superman. He explained Superman could survive the omegas iho. You want to compare writers to writers which is completely different. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because a writer handled a story concerning Darkseid and Superman. He explained Superman could survive the omegas iho. You want to compare writers to writers which is completely different. 🙂

A writer's word on any subject is only as good as the writer himself. A crappy writer can say anything but I tend to only listen to what good writers say.
I care about what Grant Morrison has to say, not so much what Rob Liefield thinks. Do you see the difference?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A writer's word on any subject is only as good as the writer himself. A crappy writer can say anything but I tend to only listen to what good writers say.
I care about what Grant Morrison has to say, not so much what Rob Liefield thinks. Do you see the difference?
To a point, but I feel a writer's opinion over his own work should definitely be looked at. This isn't Loeb here. Superman has already resisted the omega beams from Darkseid before so who's to say he couldn't survive an all out blast?

Your post made no sense. I don't rely on Thor feats from the 70's, brah. The point is a crisis occurred in the dcu affecting generally everyone's power levels including darkseid's.

Again, do you not understand what you read, or are you just skimming through??
Will you rely on Thor's feats from the 70's on the Battlezone?
We are not talking about COIE

Now if Superman becamse a lot less powerful and Ds retained his power level from the 70's how does current Superman beat him? Hmmmmm?

Who is talking about the 70's, you either trolling, or you don't know what you are reading. We are talking about 1995 DS, which is after the Crisis

I did understand them. Larfleeze isn't that impressive nor has he ever been. he's impressive when he fortifies himself behind an army of his corps but when you threaten him up close and personal he cowers and needed a distraction to get his lantern back

Obviously, you didn't understand it; if you did, you would have even tried to debate what I said. Larfleeze doesn't have any Orange Lanterns with him, and all of a sudden a giant red beast spewnig blooding everywhere attacks you. Not only that, but if you read GL 48 and not just listen to what people said in some forums you would understand that they both got eaten by a Black Lantern(a former OL). Next we see Atrocitus taking his Lantern. Don't act like Larfleeze was at 100%

Atrocitus owned him one on one. Thanos also could teleport at any time right on top of Larfleeze. I kept telling you to wait until the arc was over, but it's much better this way to rub it in your face.

LFMA at Atrocitus beating Larfleeze. If you truly believe that make a thread, or heck make it a battle zone. You'll be laughed at. Larfleeze owned him IN ONE HIT.

Larfleeze is some greedy little, stupid furball who whines and just wants everything. He is nowhere up there with serious powerhitters like Prime or Thanos. It was obvious from the get go but showins like his latest shows him for his true colors.

YOu fail in so many ways. Trying to low ball a character! You are trolling!

You don't grasp most of what occurs on this board and you attach yourself like a parasite to other people's arguments and then when pressed you can't even answer questions concerning the debates at hand.

Unlike you I don't post everywhere where I barely understand. You like to go in any topic and post your idiotic opinion and try to pass it as a fact. You spread like a disease in this Forum and I don't know why the mods even keep you here. Move along troll!! You destroy every thread you post in.

I'll BE WAITING FOR THE BATTLEZONE

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Again, do you not understand what you read, or are you just skimming through??
Will you rely on Thor's feats from the 70's on the Battlezone?
We are not talking about COIE

Who is talking about the 70's, you either trolling, or you don't know what you are reading. We are talking about 1995 DS, which is after the Crisis

Obviously, you didn't understand it; if you did, you would have even tried to debate what I said. Larfleeze doesn't have any Orange Lanterns with him, and all of a sudden a giant red beast spewnig blooding everywhere attacks you. Not only that, but if you read GL 48 and not just listen to what people said in some forums you would understand that they both got eaten by a Black Lantern(a former OL). Next we see Atrocitus taking his Lantern. Don't act like Larfleeze was at 100%

LFMA at Atrocitus beating Larfleeze. If you truly believe that make a thread, or heck make it a battle zone. You'll be laughed at. Larfleeze owned him IN ONE HIT.

YOu fail in so many ways. Trying to low ball a character! You are trolling!

Unlike you I don't post everywhere where I barely understand. You like to go in any topic and post your idiotic opinion and try to pass it as a fact. You spread like a disease in this Forum and I don't know why the mods even keep you here. Move along troll!! You destroy every thread you post in.

I'll BE WAITING FOR THE BATTLEZONE

I'll use some, yes. Why wouldn't I? He hasn't been depowered since then and they are all valid sooooooooo....your point?

Yes, I know. Supes has been stalemating Ds since the mid eighties. Ds can win a few but I see the majority of uninterrupted fights going in the man of steel's direction. I am not saying these feats are not valid for Ds. I don't know where I even stated as much. I simply said he is nowhere near his badass precrisis levels.

How wasn't he? Atrocitus wasn't fresh as a daisy either and he owned Lar. He's much cooler than Lar anyways and he seems more of an idiot as each showing comes his way. Loved how Sinestro talked to him.

Because he was distracted. Not because he was engaging him in battle. You wouldn't take a battlezone. You will just sit on the sidelines like you always do. Heh.

No, I am justifying my opinion which was correct then. I didn't have a crystal ball I am just smarter than you. I knew he was going to be nowhere near as effective as you thought he was and that it was just a matter of time.

Every topic you post in is full or ignorance. Keep waiting on the sidelines. I am a doer while you aren't. That's the difference between us. That and I read marvel comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To a point, but I feel a writer's opinion over his own work should definitely be looked at. This isn't Loeb here. Superman has already resisted the omega beams from Darkseid before so who's to say he couldn't survive an all out blast?

Because to my knowledge Darkseid has never used the full power except against H/P Doomsday, Imperiex (most likely), and Cyborg Superman (who was completely annihilated, even his consciousness got owned).

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because to my knowledge Darkseid has never used the full power except against H/P Doomsday, Imperiex (most likely), and Cyborg Superman (who was completely annihilated, even his consciousness got owned).
It failed against DD so there you go. I think it kills a lot of top tiers out there if it hits them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It failed against DD so there you go. I think it kills a lot of top tiers out there if it hits them.

It didn't fail, it threw him across the landscape and drove him into the ground. He most likely died as a result (if only briefly) since Darkseid seemed pretty confident the fight was over. Honestly if the attack hadn't done some serious damage to DD don't you think he would have been up sooner? I mean DS had time for a full speech before he so much as twitched a muscle fiber.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It didn't fail, it threw him across the landscape and drove him into the ground. He most likely died as a result (if only briefly) since Darkseid seemed pretty confident the fight was over. Honestly if the attack hadn't done some serious damage to DD don't you think he would have been up sooner? I mean DS had time for a full speech before he so much as twitched a muscle fiber.
Dd doesn't instantly rezz himself. He was buried beneath rubble and then got back into the fight.

It hurt but did nothing more than slow him down.