Originally posted by ODG
It's also true. But I don't know what feat of the heat vision's power you're actually referring to here that would make it funny to you.
Check thread.
I believe they are about the same.
Abhi just posted a regulated mini supernova, there are several scans that shown his HV on a high level and not just used to melt guns.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElI've checked.
Check thread.I believe they are about the same.
Abhi just posted a regulated mini supernova, there are several scans that shown his HV on a high level and not just used to melt guns.
abhilegend's been on ignore for the better part of a year. But as the links have been quoted, I don't find making localized sunbursts to be an impressive power feat.
I trust you are talking about raw power and not versatility, here. We both understand Thor isn't going to perform precise medical surgery with his godblast, yes? This thread's about raw power, no?
Originally posted by ODG
I've checked.abhilegend's been on ignore for the better part of a year. But as the links have been quoted, I don't find making localized sunbursts to be an impressive power feat.
I trust you are talking about raw power and not versatility, here. We both understand Thor isn't going to perform precise medical surgery with his godblast, yes? This thread's about raw power, no?
Yes, I believe is about raw power.
OP asked what HV has done to be compared with the GB.
Taking into account the context of both sides, they seem to be pretty close.
Cautherizing a rip in the cosmos, heating a star, heating earth, and many of the other feats will fall into raw power, pretty well in range of what the GB has done.
Just heating up the earth:
"The sun radiates uniformly in all directions, mainly visible light and infrared radiation, and we can calculate the total amount of energy radiated by measuring the quantity of solar energy/second reaching every square meter of Earth and then multiplying that by the total surface area of a sphere with radius equal to the radius of Earth orbit. We get the astonishingly huge amount of 400 trillion trillion watts. To put this into a crazy context, every second the sun produces the same energy as about a trillion 1 megaton bombs! In one second, our sun produces enough energy for almost 500,000 years of the current needs of our so-called civilization. If only we could collect it all and use it!"
That is very raw, IMO
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElI'm not really interested in discussing shared feats like the Superman/Orion one. Shared godblasts supported the sagging Marvel Multiverse structure. Heating and cooling a starcore is awesome, but white stars amp Superman. So I am equally as uninterested in feats that involve outside amps. We've never seen what Thor can do with his godblast when being amped by an outside source.
Yes, I believe is about raw power.OP asked what HV has done to be compared with the GB.
Taking into account the context of both sides, they seem to be pretty close.
Cautherizing a rip in the cosmos, heating a star, heating earth, and many of the other feats will fall into raw power, pretty well in range of what the GB has done.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElThis anecdote is completely irrelevant, considering the Sun heats the Earth from it's beginning core temperature as it floats around in space all the way up to it's current average temperature and pretty much every other planet in the solar system. In any case, I'm pretty sure in an analogous situation, if Thor had something amplifying his godblast, he would do more than just warm the Earth up.
Just heating up the earth:"The sun radiates uniformly in all directions, mainly visible light and infrared radiation, and we can calculate the total amount of energy radiated by measuring the quantity of solar energy/second reaching every square meter of Earth and then multiplying that by the total surface area of a sphere with radius equal to the radius of Earth orbit. We get the astonishingly huge amount of 400 trillion trillion watts. To put this into a crazy context, every second the sun produces the same energy as about a trillion 1 megaton bombs! In one second, our sun produces enough energy for almost 500,000 years of the current needs of our so-called civilization. If only we could collect it all and use it!"
That is very raw, IMO
Originally posted by ODG
I'm not really interested in discussing shared feats like the Superman/Orion one.Shared godblasts supported the sagging Marvel Multiverse structure.
Is not as if they combined their powers to achieve cautherizing energy level. Each one of them did it respectively.
Originally posted by ODG
Heating and cooling a starcore is awesome, but white stars amp Superman. So I am equally as uninterested in feats that involve outside amps.
OP asked "What has HV has done", this qualifies as that. Plus I don't think the star helped that much, he was sun deprived on the core of earth while doing this. If there was any power boost it doesn't seem significant.
Originally posted by ODG
We've never seen what Thor can do with his godblast when being amped by an outside source.
No, but We have seen what collapses Mjolnir under certain writers. and IIRC it was stated by Thor that he cannot generate enough force to escape the gravitational pull of a black hole in a FF comic.
Also isn't the GB, Thor's life essence? IIRC there was a GB that used all the asgardian god's essences, that seem like an amp to me. but is been a while since I read that issue.
Originally posted by ODG
This anecdote is completely irrelevant, considering the Sun heats the Earth from it's beginning core temperature as it floats around in space all the way up to it's current average temperature and pretty much every other planet in the solar system. In any case, I'm pretty sure in an analogous situation, if Thor had something amplifying his godblast, he would do more than just warm the Earth up.
I think is pretty informative to give an idea on the amount of energy required to heat up earth from distance, even if is a few degrees from snowing in Hawaii to a hot day, that is at least 30 degrees, and I think Superman will do more than warm the earth if he tries more than just warm it up.
Gotta go for now, Have to work, but I'll keep checking.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElAnd I'm sure Thor's godblast respectively held up 1/4th of the entire Marvel Multiverse. I don't really care, although I trust that you do.
Is not as if they combined their powers to achieve cautherizing energy level. Each one of them did it respectively.OP asked "What has HV has done", this qualifies as that. Plus I don't think the star helped that much, he was sun deprived on the core of earth while doing this. If there was any power boost it doesn't seem significant.
#1 I don't believe Superman weakens just because he's out of the sun. Pointing out that he was under the strain of the Earth's core (whether or not gravitational forces were reduced) would be more relevant. #2 Like I said, white stars amp him. So your speculation on how little it amped him is really meaningless. We're looking at Superman's heat vision, not his amped heat vision. Thor's godblast, not his amped godblast.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElWhat does this have to do with anything? It's about as irrelevant as pointing out Superman being quite exhausted after killing a group of crappy Doomsday clones on Themiscyra. Except at least that is a feat that has to do with heat vision, whereas your example is a statement that has nothing to do with a godblast.
No, but We have seen what collapses Mjolnir under certain writers. and IIRC it was stated by Thor that he cannot generate enough force to escape the gravitational pull of a black hole in a FF comic.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElI haven't even brought up that multiple Asgardian amped godblast??? Only Thor's personal godblasts.
Also isn't the GB, Thor's life essence? IIRC there was a GB that used all the asgardian god's essences, that seem like an amp to me. but is been a while since I read that issue.I think is pretty informative to give an idea on the amount of energy required to heat up earth from distance, even if is a few degrees from snowing in Hawaii to a hot day, that is at least 30 degrees, and I think Superman will do more than warm the earth if he tries more than just warm it up.
Gotta go for now, Have to work, but I'll keep checking.
I think it's pretty irrelevant, if not misleading. Superman was about 450x closer than the Sun is. Superman did not completely replace the Sun's output as received by Earth. Superman was amped. And as I understand it, this thread is about raw, personal power. Not combined feats or amped feats.
Most people on this site just assume the godblast is more powerful, and it seems to be a belief that's mostly attributable to ignorance of superman's heat vision.
I'll also say that I have no problem believing that HV could crack a celestials armor. Celestial armor is getting cracked or broken ebert other month in marvel these days.
^ This attitude that people are simply ignorant of heat vision isn't exactly an argument, much less a substantiated one.
Celestial armor, maybe. Exitar's inner dome? Kinda different league you're dealing with there. And I presume you're not bothering to count the hyperspace weakness like reasonable people would.
Originally posted by abhilegendNot Thanos tech though.
Nukes are one of the biggest jobbers in comics. I'm surprised you are so adamant about them being so effective.
Yeah, he did take powerful attacks.
What a circular reasoning! Starlin thought so, who am I to refuse it?
Just want to see what your opinion is.
Starlin thought nuclear devices was very potent in a two planet explosion too...