Thor's Godblast vs Superman's most powerfull HV shot

Started by -Pr-30 pages

Heat vision has actually been referred to as Superman's most powerful attack in the past.

Yes, his strength is usually shown as being his most potent weapon, but his heat vision has been strong enough to one-shot heralds in the past, so it is a formidable weapon when employed.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Heat vision has actually been referred to as Superman's most powerful attack in the past.
Do you mean someone stated this, thus putting it in the same category as Spider-Man's comment how Sentry "stalemated Galactus"? If so, then (as has been pointed out in prior debates) I'd have to say actual feats > character statements...unless, of course, Superman himself said this (or it was narrated). Forced to give his statement of his own powers weight = to an actual feat, this would very much surprise me, especially given...
Originally posted by -Pr-
...his strength is usually shown as being his most potent weapon

In any event...
Originally posted by -Pr-
...heat vision has been strong enough to one-shot heralds in the past, so it is a formidable weapon when employed.
Of this I have no doubt. But I still don't see it on GB level. GB has been used successfully against characters beyond herald (eg, Galactus).

Originally posted by D-Block
I agree with Mindship I don't see Superman going to HV when his back is against the wall.
Your comment reminds me of Superman's final, desperate blows against Doomsday before DD killed him. 'Twas fisticuffs, indeed not HV.

Originally posted by D-Block
I agree with Mindship I don't see Superman going to HV when his back is against the wall.
He did use it to soften Thor up before he popped his @ss.

Godblast without question

Originally posted by Mindship
Do you mean someone stated this, thus putting it in the same category as Spider-Man's comment how Sentry "stalemated Galactus"? If so, then (as has been pointed out in prior debates) I'd have to say actual feats > character statements...unless, of course, Superman himself said this (or it was narrated). Forced to give his statement of his own powers weight = to an actual feat, this would very much surprise me, especially given...

In any event...
Of this I have no doubt. But I still don't see it on GB level. GB has been used successfully against characters beyond herald (eg, Galactus).

Your comment reminds me of Superman's final, desperate blows against Doomsday before DD killed him. 'Twas fisticuffs, indeed not HV.

His chief ability is his strength, as Jor-El notes here [and in the same page he uses heat vision]:

...but that isn't something that is a knock against his heat vision, since Superman's strength has made Thor shit his pants, and he has a history of consistenly doing feats of strength that would make Thor [and his fans] masturbate endlessly.

Once Superman turns up the dials, heat vision rivals the Godblast, and easily at that. Its only saving grace for Heat Vision not blatantly exceeding it is the Galactus feat.

Yes, it's a bit sad that Thor's ultimate attack is something that doesn't exceed Superman's secondary power showings, but that's how it is.

Originally posted by Philosophía
His chief ability is his strength, as Jor-El notes here [and in the same page he uses heat vision]:

...but that isn't something that is a knock against his heat vision, since Superman's strength has made Thor shit his pants, and he has a history of consistenly doing feats of strength that would make Thor [and his fans] masturbate endlessly.

Once Superman turns up the dials, heat vision rivals the Godblast, and easily at that. Its only saving grace for Heat Vision not blatantly exceeding it is the Galactus feat.

Yes, it's a bit sad that Thor's ultimate attack is something that doesn't exceed Superman's secondary power showings, but that's how it is.

Mmmmmmm... No

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Mmmmmmm
I hope it's tasty.

*rubs a bit* =)--- O-:

Have some more.

Originally posted by Philosophía
His chief ability is his strength, as Jor-El notes here [and in the same page he uses heat vision]:

...but that isn't something that is a knock against his heat vision, since Superman's strength has made Thor shit his pants, and he has a history of consistenly doing feats of strength that would make Thor [and his fans] masturbate endlessly.

Once Superman turns up the dials, heat vision rivals the Godblast, and easily at that. Its only saving grace for Heat Vision not blatantly exceeding it is the Galactus feat.

Yes, it's a bit sad that Thor's ultimate attack is something that doesn't exceed Superman's secondary power showings, but that's how it is.

I can hear the swivel of the ball-bearing mounts as Thor fans bring you into their gatling crosshairs...

Let them come.

leonidas died there you know

Lies.

The arrows dissolved when they touched him.

Thor's godblast is powered by his lifeforce.

That said, the Godblast gets KOd the second it leaves the hammer.

Originally posted by Dark Riddick
warmed the earth by a few degrees. 😗

umm.. bn described by hyperbole to be hotter then the center of the sun even though he gets his power from the sun and his heat vision is only a byproduct of said energy and scientist can only theorize the suns internal heat but cannot actually measure such heat in a laboratory let alone supes heat vision in under controlled condition.

i mean how can a scientist with a straight face say that while standing next to supes and his heat vision. 😐

Don't read many Superman comics, do you?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Once Superman turns up the dials, heat vision rivals the Godblast, and easily at that. Its only saving grace for Heat Vision not blatantly exceeding it is the Galactus feat.

Yes, it's a bit sad that Thor's ultimate attack is something that doesn't exceed Superman's secondary power showings, but that's how it is.

If you had any proof that Superman could easily rival the godblast, you probably would have posted it.

It's a bit sad that you actually believe that. The only thing I'm curious about is what exactly led you to believe this.

Thor's best showing using the godblast vastly overshadows the combined blast of Odin, Zeus, and Vishnu. and his weakest standard blast one hit crippled a skyfather. Don't see what heat vision blast is packing more than that. /shrug

Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
Let them come.
and it begins....

Originally posted by ODG
If you had any proof that Superman could easily rival the godblast, you probably would have posted it.

It's a bit sad that you actually believe that. The only thing I'm curious about is what exactly led you to believe this.

Well then, here's what we're going to do, if you're in agreement. How about you post every feat that you consider singificant for the godblast [without leaving out context, of course, because then I'm going to have to call you on it 🙂], and then I'll try to match every one of them with heat vision feats? If, by any chance there are high-end heat vision feats that I feel the godblast hasn't presented itself as equivalent to I will, of course, post them aswell.

Deal?

^ Are you serious? I am not turning this into a respect thread. So, no, I'm not in agreement.

Just what heat vision feat(s) are you actually thinking about that gives you this wild impression? Because you clearly are already fully considering the godblast he used on Galactus.

I'm asking you to post feats of a specific ability, and you're saying you don't want to because this will turn into a 'godblast respect thread'?

Really?

Like I said, I will do my best to provide equivalent heat vision feats for all of the Godblast's on panel shown abilities, as long as you post them.

But that requires your participation, too, and not backing off, and going into the highest of the highest [Galactus, which I will address along with the others but let's get to the others, shall we?]. Let's get some perspective, no?

Or are we going to argue, again, how the discussion will go?

Because all I'm asking you is to simply show me all of the feats. And I will counter all of the feats.

That's called an informative debate.