Originally posted by Delta1938
Note the highlighted portion. Whether he's arguing this or not, that's sure how it's coming-out.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I did note it. And that's why I addressed you, because it's not coming out like that. His position that one shared feat(Thor's) is more impressive than the other(Superman's) is pretty clear.
This is also how I interpreted ODG's argument. I dunno where Delta got his....
Man, this thread has degenerated badly....
Superman and Orion "joining" together to fix a tear in reality was only shared to speed up the process. What you guys fail to acknowledge is that each one could have performed the feat single handedly, maybe not as quick but would have. Rao used hot woman in his example but maybe he should have used a dude instead. Not trying to say anyone is ghey.
I'll give another example, I have a 30' wide sidewalk that's covered in snow. My brother is here to help me shovel it. We both start at the opposite end and meet in the middle. Its a shared feat in only because we worked on it together and it sped up the process. But if I wanted to I could have done the whole 30' by myself because I did do the 15' on my side. This is how superman and Orion fixed the breach, they each could have done it alone because they did their side alone. This is what biensalsa was trying to say. Its shared because it was done quicker but each had the power to do it solo.
this feat also proves that superman's heat vision is as versatile as God Essence. The Astro force us like the omega effect which is like the Odin force. This is probably the main reason why people here refuse to acknowledge it.
Originally posted by Diesldude
Superman and Orion "joining" together to fix a tear in reality was only shared to speed up the process. What you guys fail to acknowledge is that each one could have performed the feat single handedly, maybe not as quick but would have. Rao used hot woman in his example but maybe he should have used a dude instead. Not trying to say anyone is ghey.I'll give another example, I have a 30' wide sidewalk that's covered in snow. My brother is here to help me shovel it. We both start at the opposite end and meet in the middle. Its a shared feat in only because we worked on it together and it sped up the process. But if I wanted to I could have done the whole 30' by myself because I did do the 15' on my side. This is how superman and Orion fixed the breach, they each could have done it alone because they did their side alone. This is what biensalsa was trying to say. Its shared because it was done quicker but each had the power to do it solo.
this feat also proves that superman's heat vision is as versatile as God Essence. The Astro force us like the omega effect which is like the Odin force. This is probably the main reason why people here refuse to acknowledge it.
By "what you guys", w/c guys do you mean? Who are you talking to?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
By "what you guys", w/c guys do you mean? Who are you talking to?
Originally posted by Diesldude
Whoever failed to acknowledge that superman could have solo'd the feat that he shared with Orion. If you are not one of these guys, it's not directed at you so there is no reason for you to be concerned with that aspect of my post
Since I'm sure you're addressing someone with this post, may I ask who? Or are you just talking to the wind?
Originally posted by Nibedicusyeah I was talking to the wind or should I say a lot of hot air. Like I said before, if you believe that superman could have solo the shared feat, it's not you. Just read through the posts, you'll know who I addressed. Or do you doubt your reading comprehension skills?
Since I'm sure you're addressing someone with this post, may I ask who? Or are you just talking to the wind?
Originally posted by Diesldude
yeah I was talking to the wind or should I say a lot of hot air. Like I said before, if you believe that superman could have solo the shared feat, it's not you. Just read through the posts, you'll know who I addressed. Or do you doubt your reading comprehension skills?
I neither believe nor deny the "shared feat" argument. As I'm not part of that argument at all. Me and GK simply expressed our disagreement at Delta's interpretation of ODG's argument.
What I don't get sometimes is your hostile demeanor and veiled insults (universally targeted at whoever doesn't agree with your position). Do you really think such behavior is necessary (especially at the current state of the this thread)?
Originally posted by DiesldudeYou're in no position to be insulting anybody's grasp of the English language. But go ahead and keep flailing around trying to justify someone else's bumbling hypocrisy and misplaced contempt. I'd tell you to read how the entire argument started back on page 11 back when it was constructive and before all the thinly veiled trollery. But at this point it's clear you wouldn't even want to. And it's obvious why.
yeah I was talking to the wind or should I say a lot of hot air. Like I said before, if you believe that superman could have solo the shared feat, it's not you. Just read through the posts, you'll know who I addressed. Or do you doubt your reading comprehension skills?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I neither believe nor deny the "shared feat" argument. As I'm not part of that argument at all. Me and GK simply expressed our disagreement at Delta's interpretation of ODG's argument.What I don't get sometimes is your hostile demeanor and veiled insults (universally targeted at whoever doesn't agree with your position). Do you really think such behavior is necessary (especially at the current state of the this thread)?
If you are undecided about this feat why the f are you so concerned that you have to troll my post? I admit I favor some characters over others both in dc and marvel but this is a message board for comics dude. This is why I never get worked up about dull insults and I definitely don't go trolling people with a position that doesn't CONCERN me.
You are getting on my case for "hostile demeanor" and misdirecting a already wayward thread when you totally ignore my attempt to clarify BeinSalsa's stance and decide to nitpick on a possible "veiled insult"?
Seriously dude, this is a message board no reason to get worked up. Try to counter my point instead of being a wannabe internet thug trying to champion people who I might have insulted.
Originally posted by ODG
You're in no position to be insulting anybody's grasp of the English language. But go ahead and keep flailing around trying to justify someone else's bumbling hypocrisy and misplaced contempt. I'd tell you to read how the entire argument started back on page 11 back when it was constructive and before all the thinly veiled trollery. But at this point it's clear you wouldn't even want to. And it's obvious why.
I'd like to point out that this feat doesn't give HV automatic victory over the Godblast.
Originally posted by DiesldudeSo you admit that Thor could support 1/4th of the Multiverse?
So you admit that superman could have fixed the breach himself because he fixed his side of it?I'd like to point out that this feat doesn't give HV automatic victory over the Godblast.
You're trying awfully hard to not admit the whole point of the argument.
Originally posted by DiesldudeYou couldn't be more ironic if you tried. lol
You are getting on my case for "hostile demeanor" and misdirecting a already wayward thread when you totally ignore my attempt to clarify BeinSalsa's stance and decide to nitpick on a possible "veiled insult"?Seriously dude, this is a message board no reason to get worked up. Try to counter my point instead of being a wannabe internet thug trying to champion people who I might have insulted.
Originally posted by Diesldude
If you are undecided about this feat why the f are you so concerned that you have to troll my post? I admit I favor some characters over others both in dc and marvel but this is a message board for comics dude.
I was posting in response to Delta at first, it really had nothing to do with you.
Your reply, however, was directly below mine and didn't address anyone or any argument specifically (via quotes), so I believe I was within proper forum behavior to ask you who you were talking to.
Originally posted by Diesldude
This is why I never get worked up about dull insults and I definitely don't go trolling people with a position that doesn't CONCERN me.
From where I'm standing, you sound pretty worked up to me. Or are you just naturally this abrasive?
Also, I wasn't trolling you at all where did you get that idea?
Originally posted by Diesldude
You are getting on my case for "hostile demeanor" and misdirecting a already wayward thread when you totally ignore my attempt to clarify BeinSalsa's stance and decide to nitpick on a possible "veiled insult"?
If you wanted to avoid "misdirecting a wayward thread" you should have just posted your arguments w/o all this aggression.
I mean, seriously dude, RELAX. You'll give yourself an aneurism.
Originally posted by Diesldude
Seriously dude, this is a message board no reason to get worked up. Try to counter my point instead of being a wannabe internet thug
??
Where exactly did I behave in a thuglike manner? I'm not the one throwing around comments like "ghey" "why the f" "hot air" "reading comprehension"....??
Originally posted by ODG
So you admit that Thor could support 1/4th of the Multiverse?You're trying awfully hard to not admit the whole point of the argument.
Not really, the same can be said about you.
I have to see the scan again, but 1/4 sagging boundaries of the multiverse does not equal 1/4 of the multiverse.
The boundaries are like walls, we don't even know if they have any weight, it could be just walls made of energy which were sagging, the godblast could have supported them by strengthening the energies. Great feat that i do admit.
Im going to check for this scan to confirm, but if it does not clearly state that it was the 1/4 of the entire multiverse, then i am going to bring up the feat of superman using HV supplied 1/4 the power needed to create a big bang.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I was posting in response to Delta at first, it really had nothing to do with you.Your reply, however, was directly below mine and didn't address anyone or any argument specifically (via quotes), so I believe I was within proper forum behavior to ask you who you were talking to.
I gave a different example to express beinsalsa's point, the fact that it was directly under your post was coincidental butyou immediately got defensive and wanted to know who I was referring to.
I gave you a chance to stay out of this when i clearly stated that my post was intended for those who refused to acknowledge that superman could have performed the feat solo. Do you fit in this category? does Gk? all you 2 stated was that you agree with ODG's interpretation.
You then admitted that you don't believe or deny this feat - this a lame answer considering the scans were posted and multiple examples were made to explain those scans.
All this was after the fact, you original post above mine was basically agreeing that Thor's feat was greater than Superman's feat. This is similar to what I said later that Superman's feat does not give it an auto win over Thor's feat.
My issue was/is for the people who refused to accept that superman could have performed his feat solo. I've stated this multiple times, and I've asked if your post fit into this scope? If you had stopped getting defensive and thought for a second, you would have known that my post was not directed at your post. It's crystal clear.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
From where I'm standing, you sound pretty worked up to me. Or are you just naturally this abrasive?Also, I wasn't trolling you at all where did you get that idea?
That's nothing trust me. And yup you were trolling, you admitted that you don't believe or deny superman's feat, refused to address my point but instead got worked up about who i was talking about.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
If you wanted to avoid "misdirecting a wayward thread" you should have just posted your arguments w/o all this aggression.I mean, seriously dude, RELAX. You'll give yourself an aneurism.
LOL
Originally posted by NibedicusWhere exactly did I behave in a thuglike manner? I'm not the one throwing around comments like "ghey" "why the f" "hot air" "reading comprehension"....??
C'mon dude, seriously, you saw that i agreed with beinsalas and for some reason you got defensive and thought i was talking about you. I gave you multiple chances to end this discussion because it doesn't concern you. Instead you continued to troll my post, called me hostile, insulting and that I talk to the wind. Is there any doubt now why i called you an internet thug?
So I'm going to ask you the same question i posted ODG and ill let you have the last word.
Do you think superman could have fixed the breach in reality by himself using his heat vision because he did fix it on his side.
Yes or No?
Also this does not automatically make it a greater feat than Thor's.
Originally posted by Diesldude
I gave a different example to express beinsalsa's point, the fact that it was directly under your post was coincidental butyou immediately got defensive and wanted to know who I was referring to.
Didn't get defensive (I mean, seriously, where are you getting this from?). Pls point out where that was.
Originally posted by Diesldude
I gave you a chance to stay out of this when i clearly stated that my post was intended for those who refused to acknowledge that superman could have performed the feat solo. Do you fit in this category? does Gk? all you 2 stated was that you agree with ODG's interpretation.
You didn't give a clear answer at all. Simply stated a universal reply passive aggressively aimed at whoever might disagree with you w/c some could construe as you having a misunderstanding of position.
If anything, you should have just said "not you" and that would have been the end of it.
Of course we agree about how he interpreted what he said. Let me clarify, at that moment we were not interpreting any scans or taking positions on who has better "feats" or whatever. We were disagreeing with what Delta's interpretation was with what ODG meant via his posts. That is all.
Note that ODG even clarified what his position meant (w/c should have been the end of it).
Originally posted by Diesldude
You then admitted that you don't believe or deny this feat - this a lame answer considering the scans were posted and multiple examples were made to explain those scans.
What's lame about not wanting to post an opinion on something that I'm not interested to post an opinion about? I'm neutral, what's wrong with that?
Originally posted by Diesldude
All this was after the fact, you original post above mine was basically agreeing that Thor's feat was greater than Superman's feat. This is similar to what I said later that Superman's feat does not give it an auto win over Thor's feat.
Where did I state my "agreeing that Thor's feat was greater than Superman's feat"?
See? This is why I asked if you meant me, you might have interpreted what I said as a form of agreement. Me asking if you were meaning me was to make sure we don't get a misunderstanding on positions here.
Originally posted by Diesldude
My issue was/is for the people who refused to accept that superman could have performed his feat solo. I've stated this multiple times, and I've asked if your post fit into this scope? If you had stopped getting defensive and thought for a second, you would have known that my post was not directed at your post. It's crystal clear.
Make up your mind, either you believed my post was "agreeing that Thor's feat was greater than Superman's" (wherein it WOULD fit into your reply) or it "crystal clear"-ly wasn't.
If anyone was being defensive here (and needs to think for a second), it's you.
Originally posted by Diesldude
That's nothing trust me. And yup you were trolling, you admitted that you don't believe or deny superman's feat, refused to address my point but instead got worked up about who i was talking about.
Neutrality is not trolling. I'm not sure where you're getting this whole "worked up" schtick. I'm merely calmly stating some things to you. Please point out where in my replies I was even implying I got worked up?
No offense, but this feels a lot like projection to me....
Originally posted by Diesldude
C'mon dude, seriously, you saw that i agreed with beinsalas and for some reason you got defensive and thought i was talking about you. I gave you multiple chances to end this discussion because it doesn't concern you. Instead you continued to troll my post, called me hostile, insulting and that I talk to the wind. Is there any doubt now why i called you an internet thug?
If you wanted this to end, you could have simply posted "you know what, this has nothing to do with the debate and that's all I got to say about that".
Or you could just concede that this was a misunderstanding.
But as long as you throw incorrect accusations, I'm gonna reply to correct you. Sorry if you don't like it.
Originally posted by Diesldude
So I'm going to ask you the same question i posted ODG and ill let you have the last word.
Do you think superman could have fixed the breach in reality by himself using his heat vision because he did fix it on his side.Yes or No?
Also this does not automatically make it a greater feat than Thor's.
Why are you asking me a question I've already stated multiple times I that I have not taken a position in?
Originally posted by DiesldudeLAWL
Not really, the same can be said about you.I have to see the scan again, but 1/4 sagging boundaries of the multiverse does not equal 1/4 of the multiverse.
Originally posted by DiesldudeAnd how exactly would you describe the walls of the 4th dimension where Superman and Orion were located? Y'know when Siiva waves her hand and scratches at it causing the tear in the first place and due to the tear, a planet was endangered. How much weight does that torn boundary have? The one that endangers a planet whereas the damaged boundaries in the Nexus of Realities was endangering the entire Marvel Multiverse? Your backhanded dismissal speaks volumes.
The boundaries are like walls, we don't even know if they have any weight, it could be just walls made of energy which were sagging, the godblast could have supported them by strengthening the energies. Great feat that i do admit.
Originally posted by DiesldudeOh, by all means, resurrect that idiotic 1/4th big bang heat vision theory. I would love to see you get behind that one. I mean it. I welcome and invite you to discuss that with me. Of course, even barring that (as I seriously doubt even you would be so half-witted), and totally granting that supposed feat full faith and credit, how does contributing 1/4th of the big bang even compare in any way to supporting 1/4th of the sagging Multiverse structure? LAWL
Im going to check for this scan to confirm, but if it does not clearly state that it was the 1/4 of the entire multiverse, then i am going to bring up the feat of superman using HV supplied 1/4 the power needed to create a big bang.
You're a spectacular hypocrite. Trying to deflect and b1tch about a feat while blatantly refusing to turn that magnifying lens on to the feats you're trying to prop up. All your complaints about supposed double-standards have been nothing but you projecting your own sh1tty hypocrisies onto others.
Not surprised. It's what happens when you've got no arguments left but harbor a seething (and misplaced) resentment over it.