Thor's Godblast vs Superman's most powerfull HV shot

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Cain has Herald level durability without his force field with some low showings, and some better than others (Something that hasn't been mentioned yet was him tanking Cyclop's eye blasts, which I thought to be impressive).

If so, it was mentioned in the very next issue of the same series that Juggernaut is surrounded by a force-field:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15001622/2.jpg.html
(As far as I know, that was the last time Juggy's FF was mentioned on panel.)

So for the purposes of that particular mini, the writer clearly intended Juggs to have a FF protecting him from harm--- this means any durability feats he accrued during said mini *cough*tanking Cyclops' eye-beams*cough* would fall under the "force-field-aided" category.

For a Cyclops mini, you'd have thought they'd know that Cyclops would know Juggernaut had a forcefield.

Originally posted by Galan007
You talking about this feat?:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15001621/1.jpg.html

If so, it was mentioned in the very next issue of the same series that Juggernaut is surrounded by a force-field:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15001622/2.jpg.html
(As far as I know, that was the last time Juggy's FF was mentioned on panel.)

So for the purposes of that particular mini, the writer clearly intended Juggs to have a FF protecting him from harm--- this means any durability feats he accrued during said mini *cough*tanking Cyclops' eye-beams*cough* would fall under the "force-field-aided" category.

Lol, completely forgot about that. Nice catch. Juggernaut's force field is sometimes almost skin tight and invisible so it's hard to catch.

Another clear reference to his invulnerability being derived from his force field. At this point, I really don't think it's even debatable tbh.

Originally posted by ODG
You were the one who overconfidently declared that "the OP got his answer" over the course of this thread. Now all of a sudden the overwhelming response the OP received is irrelevant? Classic quaneuver. Godblast held up the sagging Marvel Mutiverse structure. I don't know why you've ignored that for six months now in favor of holding onto shared feats and juvenile virgin insults like they were security blankets.

"Godblast held up the sagging Marvel Mutiverse structure"? That surely sounds greater than "bolster these sagging BOUNDARIES" and I can live with Thor bolstering 1/4 of sagging BOUNDARIES after all the effort was all for NAUGHT and it was the power of Demonstaff the one who actually made the difference.
Hope this is not another one of your claims like "Gas does not affect the Hulk"

Bolstering 1/4 of a sagging boundary does not really convince me, btw did you got something of Thor generating enough electricity to patch a hole in reality? or the only way to do it is by using his godly essence?

And the past six months? Not really, you know I have more important things to do and that takes precedent over answering some random virgin online 😉 , this is just for fun

Originally posted by ODG
But, given that the mods are letting it go, why would you stop? This single topic has obviously subsumed your mind for the past six months, after all. Is this in response to somebody else's post? This makes no sense. Cows eat hay and chew. This is about as relevant as what you typed. No you're right, common sense amongst people doesn't change the evidence that your Superman/Orion shared feat is still vastly overshadowed by Thor's shared godblast feat of literally supporting the Marvel Multiverse from collapsing.

It is not my fault that some people are not competent enough to understand the analogy, see if that makes sense to you.

But let me help you a little bit here and use and analogy that you may or MAY NOT understand, due to the nature of it.

Let's imagine that You have in front a beautiful woman wearing a dress with a double zipper like this:

http://www.thepartyworks.com/ip/images18/180445/61051.jpg

In order for you to unzip the dress, you will need a force of 1 kg, to move the either zipper up or down, each one of your hands can only generate 1/4 of a kg, you will need you two hands in order for you to generate 1/2 kg and still not enough force to move one zipper, so you will need to call someone else, with the same amount of strength than you, in order to get rid of the zipper, so you and your helper will accomplish the SHARED FEAT, of getting rid of the dress.

On the other side I can generate 1 kg of force, so EACH ONE of my hands can get rid of the dress, I use both hands, just because I want to get rid of the dress FASTER. But EACH one of my hands ALONE are able to achieve this, I only do it, to do it FASTER.

So, ORION can close the rift ALONE
Superman can close the rift ALONE

They did it together to close it FASTER, not because they could not do it. To think otherwise is a sad attempt trying to bolster your sagging argument.

If you still do not understand HOW this is NOT a shared feat, let me know, I try to use an example that does not includes Women on it, so you can understand it.

Originally posted by ODG
Also... is it March already? You take 45 days (on average) trying to draft responses like clockwork. Looks like I need to reset my calendar.

LOL, NO, see above (^u^)=b

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
"Godblast held up the sagging Marvel Mutiverse structure"? That surely sounds greater than "bolster these sagging BOUNDARIES" and I can live with Thor bolstering 1/4 of sagging BOUNDARIES after all the effort was all for NAUGHT and it was the power of Demonstaff the one who actually made the difference.
Hope this is not another one of your claims like "Gas does not affect the Hulk"

Bolstering 1/4 of a sagging boundary does not really convince me, btw did you got something of Thor generating enough electricity to patch a hole in reality? or the only way to do it is by using his godly essence?

Stay on topic. Shouldn't be so hard to do considering this is the one thread you decided to obsess over. Also, it must be May already, spring's around the corner since you posted again. Watcha been doin the past two months (aside from cutting your wrists over this one single thread)?

Originally posted by ODG
The boundaries of what? The boundaries preventing the entire Marvel Multiverse from collapsing on itself. Lol at you trying to make the case that Superman/Orion in the 4th world sealing up a tear leading to the lower dimensional plane is somehow a feat of greater scope than that! Or trying to deflect from that feat by bringing up static electricity (???) when it's [b]heat vision vs godblast:

Stay on topic. Shouldn't be so hard to do considering this is the one thread you decided to obsess over. Also, it must be May already, spring's around the corner since you posted again. Watcha been doin the past two months (aside from cutting your wrists over this one single thread)? [/B]

You are dodging what I said about the blowing out of proportion of the feat you mentioned and try to divert attention by discrediting me about "it must be march, it must be may"? Dude is February the month of love but I guess you don't have a girlfriend to celebrate. Don't cut your wrist over that.

and don't even mention dimensional planes BOLSTERING sagging BOUNDARIES IN ELSEWHEN???

But let me get this straight, are you trying to divert the focus away from not being a shared feat???

Are you conceding now that this is not a shared feat?

And the question about the electricity, it was, so you can warp your mind around that Superman does has better feats than Thor.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You are dodging what I said about the blowing out of proportion of the feat you mentioned and try to divert attention by discrediting me about "it must be march, it must be may"? Dude is February the month of love but I guess you don't have a girlfriend to celebrate. Don't cut your wrist over that.

and don't even mention dimensional planes BOLSTERING sagging BOUNDARIES IN ELSEWHEN???

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
But let me get this straight, are you trying to divert the focus away from not being a shared feat???

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Are you conceding now that this is not a shared feat?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
And the question about the electricity, it was, so you can warp your mind around that Superman does has better feats than Thor.

Seriously, try and stay on-topic. Heat vision vs godblast. I don't want you hanging yourself from the closet yet by discussing tangents that'd backfire in your face horribly.

Originally posted by ODG
Don't mention it? Why? Are you running out of wrist veins to slit?

I am running out of analogies that a competent person can understand

Originally posted by ODG
As opposed to you bringing up Superman rubbing his hands together to make static electricity to seal a pinhole reality tear? If I wanted to divert focus away from the thread topic's issue at hand, I'd bring up Thor creating whirlwinds that contained a blast capable of instantly destroying 1/5th of the universe.

You mean that DIMENSIONAL DISLOCATION? It was like putting a firecracker in a cake, slicing away the piece with the firecracker, so the cake did not blew up, WOW!

Originally posted by ODG
It is a shared feat. And Thor's shared feat blows it out of the water. Like I told you six (ten??? I lost count...) months ago back on page 11. LOL.

No is not, and you better explain WHY Superman does not have enough HV to cauterize a hole in reality by himself when it is shown on panel.

And I can believe Thor can bolster 1/4 of sagging boundaries for NAUGHT!, I have no problem with that. Still not impressed.

Originally posted by ODG
Your off-topic appeal to a feat of sealing a pinhole tear in reality with static is greater than supporting the collapsing Marvel Multiversal structure or containing the 1/5th universe destroying Life Bomb?

Not really, I asked you to provide electricity generation, so you can get your mind around that Superman has some better feats than Thor. Which it seems impossible for you to do in every topic involving Superman, I wonder why?

Originally posted by ODG

What is this? a guy laughing at your virginity?

Edit:

Gotta go for now dude, I have a beautiful woman to attend 😉

...

It's been over 6 months since the argument between you two started. How the phuck is it still going on lol?

I thought you two had stopped this? Seriously, the ignore function is there for a reason.

^ Newjak was right, virgin insults are nothing to get twisted over. It's all in good fun. And this thread... O M G, this thread is made of win.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I am running out of analogies that a competent person can understand

Originally posted by Rao Kal El

You mean that DIMENSIONAL DISLOCATION? It was like putting a firecracker in a cake, slicing away the piece with the firecracker, so the cake did not blew up, WOW!

No is not, and you better explain WHY Superman does not have enough HV to cauterize a hole in reality by himself when it is shown on panel.

And I can believe Thor can bolster 1/4 of sagging boundaries for NAUGHT!, I have no problem with that. Still not impressed.

You better explain how sealing a tear between the 4th dimension and the lower dimensional plane that was endangering planets' populations is greater than supporting the sagging Marvel Multiverse structure that was endangering... the entire Marvel Multiverse.

I understand you're not impressed. You ran out of jizz jerking it to static and pinholes a while's back.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Not really, I asked you to provide electricity generation, so you can get your mind around that Superman has some better feats than Thor. Which it seems impossible for you to do in every topic involving Superman, I wonder why?

What is this? a guy laughing at your virginity?

I know projection when I see it. And, boy, is it blatant. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll find some girl to boink once your father's done molesting you in your closet and lets you out more frequently than every two months or so to necrobump this single thread.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Edit:

Gotta go for now dude, I have a beautiful woman to attend 😉

See you in two months!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, one last post 🙂.

The first two aren't even worth noting. The fact that you bring them up says a bit about your position imo.

The Cannonball feat may very well be his best, forgot about that one. That is something that I don't see a herald accomplishing so casually most of the time. Do you scans of the Storm incident? How did he launch her lightning bolt back at her? If this is when he had his force field (Sometimes it could deflect attacks), it doesn't really count does it?

Every scan I posted made it very clear that Cain was in pain/trouble. If it says Cain screams in pain, he screams because he's hurt.

How many times have they fought? Professor Hulk dropped Cain with a gut shot, War Hulk was clearly beating the shitting out of him, Green Scar was rocking him with his hits and vise versa.

He was still beaten back and blue, and was put in a minor coma or some such. Although yes, Cain was getting his revenge in the rematch, but I'd expect him to win in a hand to hand fight. Do you have scans by any chance? I've posted too many low showings, I don't want some idiot to run with those scans and start low balling him, need to balance the scales.

Do you have scans? I remember it being clearly stated that Juggernaut was depowered by Cytorrak because of the good he did with Captain Universe's powers. You need to be more clear and precise about statements like that, if I hadn't actually read the issue, it would have been very confusing information.

Hulk has also been able to temporarily turn Wolverine's claws:
http://www.mynetimages.com/viewimage/5e6f93dafd
http://www.mynetimages.com/viewimage/e87df00ce2
http://www.mynetimages.com/viewimage/7890c6122d
http://www.mynetimages.com/viewimage/40c845433c

Even Death Wolverine was only able to cut him because Hulk ran into his claws with a lot of force IIRC.

Okay, I'm done with this. This time I mean it. Well I hope I do, lol.

I didn't intend the fire ones to be all that amazing. You tried to show Nightcrawler with the Torch so I showed where Cain has no sold fire like it didn't even bother him. It had nothing to do with me trying to prove he had above herald durability.

I don't have any scans as they were all on my old computer before it crashed.

The storm one was Storm hit Cain with lightning and he made a little speech and used his hand to rechannel the energy back through it. This was when he was a walking plot device.

Let me ask you something has anyone hit with you a pillow or another soft object but you reacted and let out cry of some kind cause they took you by surprise. Not all cries have to cries of true pain.

There original time they fought when Prof X showed up. Green Scar wasn't really hurting Cain as we see no visible damage.

The Luke Cage quote comes from the Thunderbolts issue where he is gathering his team. Although I do think Cyttorak mentions in FI that he was displeased with Cain using the CU powers.

Still they could have effected Cain cause he does have a very powerful healing factor so for him to be left black and blue like that in a small coma seems to contrary to Cain's shown abilities. Maybe the writer's just decided to ignore it though.

As for the FF it's not always on as we've seen with Spider-man he has to activate it. Also the FF itself has been inconsistent. In his original appearance it was a literal 'Force' field. As in it was exerting Force around his body that was repealling things away from him.

With Spider-Man it was shown in the same vane as an energy shield that didn't let anything through it.

In the Thor fight it seemed more of the drain attack's energy type field.

@ODG:
You're right, this thread is made of win.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Newjak was right, virgin insults are nothing to get twisted over. It's all in good fun. And this thread... O M G, this thread is made of win.

Well at least We can agree over something...So does this means you are not crying foul anymore after I made a juvenile joke after yours?

Originally posted by ODG
You ran out a long time ago, I'd say ever since you joined this thread. 👆

Is this another distraction tactic? Lets keep on topic, TBH is kind of hard since We share so much love for each other, but We will try.

Originally posted by ODG
What are you jabbering about? Cakes and firecrackers?????????????

This are SIMPLE analogies, so even a 5 year old can understand them, but I guess this is just asking too much

Originally posted by ODG
You better explain how sealing a tear between the 4th dimension and the lower dimensional plane that was endangering planets' populations is greater than supporting the sagging Marvel Multiverse structure that was endangering... the entire Marvel Multiverse.

Well since you are dodging the answers and cannot comprehend simple analogies it will be kind of pointless, but lets try.

Since you have forgotten to mention this "sagging" universe happened in elsewhen, but lets forget about that and keep the eyes on the ball.

They bolstered the sagging boundaries, a valiant effort for NAUGHT!

This is like trying to hold a dam with 4 sacks of sand, it will be a valiant effort for NAUGHT!, Still I bolstered the dam, So just because of that, are you going to claim that 4 sacks of sand "supported" the whole dam structure?

I read the issues, so I do not know what are you trying to make out of this feat other than what it is.

Originally posted by ODG
I understand you're not impressed. You ran out of jizz jerking it to static and pinholes a while's back. Make a new thread for your butthurt. I'm totally interested in seeing how that conversation would play out. Superman's electricity vs. Thor's lightning. I'm sure you're going to be arguing that creating a small static field wouldn't have just staggered the Chaos King but destroyed him forever.

Yes a pinhole capable of destroy the solar system, I'm sure that is not enough electricity to hurt anyone in Marvel

Originally posted by ODG
I know projection when I see it. And, boy, is it blatant. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll find some girl to boink once your father's done molesting you in your closet and lets you out more frequently than every two months or so to necrobump this single thread. Stop trying so hard. And internet pictures of Emma Watson don't count anyway (unless you're Brucey).

So, besides a pseudo intellectual virgin, you are also a psycologist and/or psychiatrist???

Good to know 😉

See you in two months! [/B][/QUOTE]

Why would I see you in two months? Does any female in your family needs me to check her out or what???

So... After your funny post, lets keep focused on the feat.

Are you TRYING to say that Superman or Orion cannot seal a cosmic rip? Because let me point this out to you, it happen on panel, so no matter how much you will like this to make it a "shared feat" Orion OR Superman can close a cosmic rift, The proof is on the panel.

Also while I am touching this subject, let's go back to the heating up a star.

You claim that he was able to achieve this by "amping" when the Atom says the star is "feeding" his cells the same way the sun will do it, now, there is not actual evidence that there is an "amp" as He is doing things that He could normally do under the regular sun feeding his cells. As in another issue of Superman it was stated that the DC scientist cannot measure Superman's HV, they can measure the Sun's heat but not Sm's.

But of course, you will claim that the supporting evidence of Superman's HV being hotter than the sun means that Superman cannot heat up a star, because according to you, this only happens while amped. LOL!

That response was wack

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Well at least We can agree over something...So does this means you are not crying foul anymore after I made a juvenile joke after yours?

Is this another distraction tactic? Lets keep on topic, TBH is kind of hard since We share so much love for each other, but We will try.

This are SIMPLE analogies, so even a 5 year old can understand them, but I guess this is just asking too much

Well since you are dodging the answers and cannot comprehend simple analogies it will be kind of pointless, but lets try.

Is this love you develop in your two months of off-time between posts? Yes, let's see how long you keep on-topic about Superman's heatvision vs Thor's godblast.

Analogies about cake and firecrackers that a 5 year old would clumsily create that nobody will understand, I think is what you were trying to say.

Are you going to talk about cake again?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Since you have forgotten to mention this "sagging" universe happened in elsewhen, but lets forget about that and keep the eyes on the ball.

They bolstered the sagging boundaries, a valiant effort for NAUGHT!

This is like trying to hold a dam with 4 sacks of sand, it will be a valiant effort for NAUGHT!, Still I bolstered the dam, So just because of that, are you going to claim that 4 sacks of sand "supported" the whole dam structure?

I read the issues, so I do not know what are you trying to make out of this feat other than what it is.

They supported the sagging Marvel Multiverse with their godblasts.

Which is exactly what I said they always did.

You're straining to be contrarian here but I don't even get what you're trying to deny happened there. Maybe you should take two months to think about it some more.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Yes a pinhole capable of destroy the solar system, I'm sure that is not enough electricity to hurt anyone in Marvel

So, besides a pseudo intellectual virgin, you are also a psycologist and/or psychiatrist???

Good to know 😉

Just a dude on the internet who calls it like he sees it. And how I see it is I'm being trolled by a petulant little b1tch-child who tries too hard and projects himself onto others when his hypocritical arguments get deconstructed. Was that too blunt for you?

Good to know that I've driven you off these forums for a full year and a half the last time we tried to have a constructive discussion on another topic?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Why would I see you in two months? Does any female in your family needs me to check her out or what???

So... After your funny post, lets keep focused on the feat.

You're asking me to focus on the feat when you just went on an insult-laden troll tirade? After you declared in your second sentence of your post that we should keep on-topic? N1gga, please.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Are you TRYING to say that Superman or Orion cannot seal a cosmic rip? Because let me point this out to you, it happen on panel, so no matter how much you will like this to make it a "shared feat" Orion OR Superman can close a cosmic rift, The proof is on the panel.

Also while I am touching this subject, let's go back to the heating up a star.

You claim that he was able to achieve this by "amping" when the Atom says the star is "feeding" his cells the same way the sun will do it, now, there is not actual evidence that there is an "amp" as He is doing things that He could normally do under the regular sun feeding his cells. As in another issue of Superman it was stated that the DC scientist cannot measure Superman's HV, they can measure the Sun's heat but not Sm's.

But of course, you will claim that the supporting evidence of Superman's HV being hotter than the sun means that Superman cannot heat up a star, because according to you, this only happens while amped. LOL!

Yes, let's.

White dwarf stars held in Superman's hands amp him. And that has nothing to do with heat vision temperature measurements.

What a particularly stupid strawman. Superman's heat vision can't be measured, therefore white dwarf stars don't amp him. Seriously, when you don't take two months to obsess over drafting responses, it shows.

ODG.. can you revamp the THanos respect thread with your abilities.. PLEASE!!!

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
ODG.. can you revamp the THanos respect thread with your abilities.. PLEASE!!!

First ODG gave Mindset a boner with his Doom thread.
Then he gave Rage a boner with his Thor thread.
Afterward he gave carver a boner with his Hulk thread.
Currently he plans on giving me a boner with his Iron Man thread.
And now he plans on giving KT a boner with his Thanos thread?

The man really likes pleasuring other dudes... Which is nice. 👆

That is a lot boners going on there and they are much appreciated (homo)