hulk vs thanos fist fight

Originally posted by Nihilist
Consistant my ass, He does that to Juggs yet Hulk can go blow for blow with him, then take into account Juggs has always been shown to be equal or greater than Hulk in direct feats between the 2.

Plenty of guys iirc have mind phucked Juggs and besides the whole point was about Onslaughts physical power.

Furthermore, hulk has always been stronger and less durable than jugs, not that it matters here.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First... he MENTALL BEAT JUGGS not physically overpowered him... Many have removed Juggs helmut to deal with him... Onslaught did the same thing..

There was no mental battle during Onslaught and Jugs fight. He simply amped his fist with telekinetic energy and punched Jugs from one side of United States to the other and that koed him (he didn't even have the amp of Nate and Franklin when he performed this.

Another time they faced each other, he was chasing Juggernaut through the Xmansion...had him terrified. Jugs tried to get the XMen help but only found Jean (or was that Gambit...can't remember) at the mansion. She even admits during the meeting with Juggernaut that she sensed an enormous amount of fear from him. Juggernaut then see Onslaught, runs to Xavier room and runs into Onslaught. Onslaught grabs him in one hand and with the other hand he simple press on Juggernauts chest and snatch the gem out.

The ONLY reason it is PIS is due to the fact that the gem wasn't inside Juggernaut, he tossed it into space a long time ago before facing him. The writer didn't know what he was doing unless Jugs received the gem back "off panel" and ate it.

But a weaker Onslaught than the one Hulk faced over powered Jugs twice but a far more powerful Onslaught got dropped by Hulk.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Consistant my ass, He does that to Juggs yet Hulk can go blow for blow with him, then take into account Juggs has always been shown to be equal or greater than Hulk in direct feats between the 2.

Plenty of guys iirc have mind phucked Juggs and besides the whole point was about Onslaughts physical power.

Juggernaut isn't stronger than Hulk buddy.

Originally posted by 753
hulk's strengh amping is limitless and he reached those levels because jean grey altered his mind, releasing a limitless primal rage. mindless hulk is not savage hulk. that was not pis

Furthermore, hulk has always been stronger and less durable than jugs, not that it matters here.

When they have fought the have more or less been shown to be equal in strength.

Originally posted by carver9
Juggernaut isn't stronger than Hulk buddy.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Juggernaut was shown to be greater than WWH who was stronger than the Hulk that Onslaught fought.

When they have fought the have more or less been shown to be equal in strength.

they wer eusually shown as peers in strengh, but jugs' striking power was never as powerful as hulk's upper feats.

Originally posted by 753
juggernaut was not shown to be stronger than WWH. only thanks to the inertia cancelling spell he would have kept moving forward, which is just standard juggernaut. hulk owned him easily.

they wer eusually shown as peers in strengh, but jugs' striking power was never as powerful as hulk's upper feats.

Juggs landed 3 solid hits, Hulk landed 1 and then tried to push him to his knees, then had to bfr him... so physically he didnt own him(the bfr was bullshit, he bfr'd him into a small pond ffs)

the only problem with the juggernaut/green scar argument is if you're part of the "juggernaut won" side, his win wasn't that decisive cause the hulk didn't come after him nor cared to finish him, he just tossed him aside. if getting more shots in and making hulk's nose bleed is enough for you, you're easily satisfied. *shrug*

i personally know hulk wasn't trying and if he was motivated juggernaut would find himself off the planet with a big fist dent in his chest

Originally posted by Nihilist
Hulk didnt own him easily, stop making stuff up.

Juggs landed 3 solid hits, Hulk landed 1 and then tried to push him to his knees, then had to bfr him... so physically he didnt own him(the bfr was bullshit, he bfr'd him into a small pond ffs)

Juggy at least drew blood. Two times.

yea hulk didnt want to waste his time with juggs so he didnt...easy bfr

and stopping juggernauts momentum to a near stop shows hulk was physically pretty damn strong...

Originally posted by 753
the blows they exchanged did nothign to either. hulk bypassed jug's unstoppability by simply turning him arround and throwing him away with his own momentum. the fight lasted what? 8 seconds? how is that not owning him easily?

The bfr has nothing to do with How Hulk/Juggs compare with how they did against Onslaught physically.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Juggy at least drew blood. Two times.

making hulk bleed doesnt mean much...

that's the point

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Slotts She Hulk was not exactly a book know for respecting power levels he is the same guy who had her beat the shit out of Champion.

It respected powerlevels just fine IMO. Champion with power gem beat the shit out of originally, just like he beat the shit out of the Surfer, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill etc. Slott then very clearly gave her a notable powerup and she convinced him to fight without the powergem and she destroyed him. Can't see any problem with that. Most writers wouldn't have bothered to explain any large jump in performance.

Originally posted by Fifthchild
It respected powerlevels just fine IMO. Champion with power gem beat the shit out of originally, just like he beat the shit out of the Surfer, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill etc. Slott then very clearly gave her a notable powerup and she convinced him to fight without the powergem and she destroyed him. Can't see any problem with that. Most writers wouldn't have bothered to explain any large jump in performance.

I don't see how that training could make her stronger than Champion even without the gem not to mention how ridiculous it is to think a couple month of training could close the skill gap.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Again ffs, what is it that you dont understand. Thanos was talking about the past as in before Death greatly increased his power, and regardless of what Hulk Thanos faced during IW he still went for Hulk first making the whole point void about facing the Hulk.

I think you also have to look at the context of the statement. Thanos was fighting a guy with the powergem who was getting stronger and stronger and beating through his shields and who he was basically doing all he could to avoid engaging head on except in the same way a bullfighter does a bull. And he said this is what it would be like fighting the Hulk. Now I'm not literal minded enough to think that every fight with the Hulk would show him as being that physically dominant but I think its as valid a showing or statement to throw into the mix as anything else out there, including the moment with the Thing and the Merged Hulk which is just as arguably an outlier in that it doesn't match with a lot of other stuff.

Originally posted by Nihilist
lol youre trying desperately to twist this, we are talking about h2h fist fighting which has continued from what Onslaught did to Juggs. The whole point is Juggs was a match/was getting the better of WWH in the punch up.

The bfr has nothing to do with How Hulk/Juggs compare with how they did against Onslaught physically. [/B]

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Juggy at least drew blood. Two times.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I don't see how that training could make her stronger than Champion even without the gem not to mention how ridiculous it is to think a couple month of training could close the skill gap.

It was explained that her strength increased exponentially from her base form. So if as Jennifer Walters she has a strength of 10 and after transformation her strength is squared to give She Hulk a strength of 100 (for example) then if she managed to get twice as strong as Jen her strength after transformation would now be 400. Which is a lot more than double.

Within the context of a comic book universe it was a pretty decent explanation.