Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
this is stupid. i'd never thought i'd see the day when i'd pick thanos to win a forum fight..sure hulk can amp is strength and shit to who knows what levels, but before he does reach the level where he can match thanos, he'd already be dead.
Current Hulk starts off at WWH levels. I can't picture Thanos or any other being outside of skyfather levels overpowering him.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoHere's a question for you then. Who's actually done that to current Hulk? Who's prevented current Hulk from amping himself to the necessary level to match/surpass his foe?
this is stupid. i'd never thought i'd see the day when i'd pick thanos to win a forum fight..sure hulk can amp is strength and shit to who knows what levels, but before he does reach the level where he can match thanos, he'd already be dead.
Zeus is literally the only one who can be argued to have actually performed such a feat. Needless to say, Zeus > Thanos. And Zeus did it amid a cloud of "holding back" uncertainty.
This whole "Hulk's base level will be his undoing because he can't get stronger fast enough" is a persistent myth despite all evidence to the contrary. And it seems particularly irrelevant now. He can switch back-and-forth to Worldbreaker levels in an instant. He has. Several times... even from his Banner form. And he went even further than Worldbreaker instantaneously as well. The whole, "he can't get angry and, therefore, can't get stronger fast enough" argument literally has no place in these threads anymore based on actual feats.
Besides, holding back he's already at classic Juggernaut levels. So unless people think Thanos wrecks and no-sells classic Juggernaut with ease, then color me skeptical.
Originally posted by carver9Thanos fought the Hulk who was before him and the comment from Thanos quest referred to Hulk not a specific version. Thanos didn't have an artifact on him when he slapped him nor when he overpowered him. Are you even familiar with any of this ?
When did Thanos fight Savage Hulk? Hell, when did Thanos fight Hulk without having some sort of artifact on him? He never fought Savage Hulk and was weary of fighting him per his own words.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Here's a question for you then. Who's actually done that to current Hulk? Who's prevented current Hulk from amping himself to the necessary level to match/surpass his foe?Zeus is literally the only one who can be argued to have actually performed such a feat. Needless to say, Zeus > Thanos. And Zeus did it amid a cloud of "holding back" uncertainty.
This whole "Hulk's base level will be his undoing because he can't get stronger fast enough" is a persistent myth despite all evidence to the contrary. And it seems particularly irrelevant now. He can switch back-and-forth to Worldbreaker levels in an instant. He has. Several times... even from his Banner form. And he went even further than Worldbreaker instantaneously as well. The whole, "he can't get angry and, therefore, can't get stronger fast enough" argument literally has no place in these threads anymore based on actual feats.
Besides, holding back he's already at classic Juggernaut levels. So unless people think Thanos wrecks and no-sells classic Juggernaut with ease, then color me skeptical.
too band Zues > thanos >> hulk
Switch from Banner to World Breaker mode almost instantly. Learn the character before debating against him.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos fought the Hulk who was before him and the comment from Thanos quest referred to Hulk not a specific version. Thanos didn't have an artifact on him when he slapped him nor when he overpowered him. Are you even familiar with any of this ?
He didn't have the gems?
Thanos commented on Savage Hulk. Professor Hulk wasn't even around during the time Thanos said his statement...it was Savage Hulk that was bouncing around. The writer told us during that story what we needed to know about Thanos mindset on Hulk...deal with it.
Originally posted by carver9Not when he slapped him no. He didn't have the gems when he overpowered him either.
He didn't have the gems?Thanos commented on Savage Hulk. Professor Hulk wasn't even around during the time Thanos said his statement...it was Savage Hulk that was bouncing around. The writer told us during that story what we needed to know about Thanos mindset on Hulk...deal with it.
It doesn't matter the statement had to do with the character of the Hulk not a specified version which Hulk fans seem obsessed about.
Yes, the writer made the point and in two future showings disrespectfully not only slapped the Hulk but Drax as well. Thanos didn't just overpower the Hulk he overpowered the Thing as well.
If Hulk is in Thanos' way even if he has company Thanos seems to do just fine. I can't say the same for the Hulk.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not when he slapped him no. He didn't have the gems when he overpowered him either.It doesn't matter the statement had to do with the character of the Hulk not a specified version which Hulk fans seem obsessed about.
Yes, the writer made the point and in two future showings disrespectfully not only slapped the Hulk but Drax as well. Thanos didn't just overpower the Hulk he overpowered the Thing as well.
If Hulk is in Thanos' way even if he has company Thanos seems to do just fine. I can't say the same for the Hulk.
Concession accepted.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0they didn't like it so it never happened
Here's a question for you then. Who's actually done that to current Hulk? Who's prevented current Hulk from amping himself to the necessary level to match/surpass his foe?Zeus is literally the only one who can be argued to have actually performed such a feat. Needless to say, Zeus > Thanos. And Zeus did it amid a cloud of "holding back" uncertainty.
This whole "Hulk's base level will be his undoing because he can't get stronger fast enough" is a persistent myth despite all evidence to the contrary. And it seems particularly irrelevant now. He can switch back-and-forth to Worldbreaker levels in an instant. He has. Several times... even from his Banner form. And he went even further than Worldbreaker instantaneously as well. The whole, "he can't get angry and, therefore, can't get stronger fast enough" argument literally has no place in these threads anymore based on actual feats.
Besides, holding back he's already at classic Juggernaut levels. So unless people think Thanos wrecks and no-sells classic Juggernaut with ease, then color me skeptical.
Originally posted by quanchi112
@SorrowWe've seen Thanos overpower the Hulk and slap him around. Quoting one line of dialog whichisn't accurate to their run ins together since that comic is irrelevant.
When did Thanos overpower Hulk? I was using the Champion fight as an example because he recognizes Hulks potential and was weary of fighting someone who could amp and become harder to defeat the longer the fight drew on. This would be a big hurdle for him to overcome with the Hulk as powerful as he currently is. Do you read much Hulk by the way?
Originally posted by The SorrowI've read enough Hulk to know where he's generally at. Thanos overpowered Hulk and the Thing in a Quasar issue iirc. It was an comment which obviously was to bring drama to the story. At the end of the day Thanos didn't think much of anything of the entire lot of the elders or the challenges he had to overcome within this particular story.
Hey whats up?When did Thanos overpower Hulk? I was using the Champion fight as an example because he recognizes Hulks potential and was weary of fighting someone who could amp and become harder to defeat the longer the fight drew on. This would be a big hurdle for him to overcome with the Hulk as powerful as he currently is. Do you read much Hulk by the way?
Originally posted by carver9Keep ignoring my points and this is why you've never won an actual debate.
Concession accepted.
I dont think Thanos overpowering Banner Hulk should be used as anything against current hulk. They do have a slight strength difference. If hulk were to stay generally around the power level he was at in the WWH arc without going WB I see Thanos KO'ing him. But against WB Thanos will not win a HTH fight. Thats to much in the hulks favor. Against WWH Thanos gets majority. Against WBH Thanos loses pretty badly.
Originally posted by DamborgsonBased on what though does Thanos lose let alone badly.
I dont think Thanos overpowering Banner Hulk should be used as anything against current hulk. They do have a slight strength difference. If hulk were to stay generally around the power level he was at in the WWH arc without going WB I see Thanos KO'ing him. But against WB Thanos will not win a HTH fight. Thats to much in the hulks favor. Against WWH Thanos gets majority. Against WBH Thanos loses pretty badly.
Originally posted by quanchi112WB is healing even faster than WWH. He hits harder and is getting even more powerful as time goes by. Saying that Thanos can KO WB in a fist fight is ridiculous. Despite Thanos' great strength he does not hit hard enough to beat WB imo. Guys who were taking it to savage hulk in the strength department werent even noticed by WB. And while Thanos would knock savage out current hulk is to much to deal with. (HTH mind you)
Based on what though does Thanos lose let alone badly.
