HP Doomsday vs Thanos Fist fight

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Funny you say this....

Thanos grabbing Hulk and Thing who are strong right? Grabbing them and overpower them and saying "you think your strong, I'm strength PERSONIFIED" what does that tell us? He's superior to them and by a lot. You can't rely on we don't know how strong Hulk was because he was pissed and NO feat of Hulk says exactly how strong he is.

Practically killing Surfer and KOing him in like 6 punches is better than 3 punches which almost KO'd supes and made him woozy. Surfer was on the verge of death. Supes was dezed and kept fighting back. This is SS who has very good durability.

Him backhanding powerhouses like Drax, Hulk, Thing, Thor etc further prove the point. He didn't even need to punch them to dismiss them. He casually backhands them like a father to a child. That is how they compare.

He wrestling with Drax blows up a planet. They lock arms and engage in a struggle. That struggle causes the planet they were on to go by by. That is greater than overpowering superman grip or breaking his arm. The force needed in a wrestling match to cause that damage is astronomical is it not?

As far as the Thanos Drax feat:
Two beings using their strength to destroy a planet proves that each being is capable of at least destroying half a planet with their strength. And destroying half a planet with strength proves that each being is capable of exerting at least 1 trillionth of the weight of the planet. Superman can exert more than 50 times that of the weight of the Earth.

Him locking arms with DP Tyrant and stalemating him is more impressive than DD stalemating supermans grip.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thing is a speck of dust. Hulk in unknown.
I was referring the incident where Superman wasn't able to fight back, he was nearly gone. DS let up and wanted to talk, but could have finished off Superman if he wanted. SS don't even compare to Superman as far as strength and durability. I've seen some real shitty low showings of SS that it will be impossible to show Superman with those same showings. Backhanding someone doesn't mean anything to me as far as strength is concerned (maybe Thing though). Thanos may be more powerful than those beings but not necessarily stronger. Superman has done the same, but indirectly. His fight with Zod indirectly caused the destruction of the planet (they were only hitting each other while in air and not the planet).

As far as the Thanos Drax feat:
Two beings using their strength to destroy a planet proves that each being is capable of at least destroying half a planet with their strength. And destroying half a planet with strength proves that each being is capable of exerting at least 1 trillionth of the weight of the planet. Superman can exert more than 50 times that of the weight of the Earth. I would like to see this Thanos stalemating the grip of DP Tyrant. But DD overpowered Superman when they locked up, not stalemated him. [quote][b]

1. Hulk isn't a unknown. He's a known powerhouse is he not? He has incredible lifting feats under his belt right? He's isn't an unknown. In every single feat of his... it never ever says he is this angry and thus this strong. We know he gets pissed and he gets stronger. During the feat in question he was pissed. Point proven and concession accepted.

2. Funny you say DS could've finished off Superman so thus are you saying he's superior in strength to superman? How does this line up with the fact that DS has been beaten by Supes in h2h before? One good showing against supes means he's stronger than Thanos.. I know you wank Supes but really.. that much?

3. Funny you say Supes doesnt have low durability showings.. Tell me then.. Explain Supes getting KO'd by a gas station. So little has NEVER KO'd surfer. I guess thus surfer's durability is greater than Supes. Explain Zod breaking his jaw.. never happened to surfer.. Explain Supes being KO'd in one punch by Konvict... Show me surfer being KO'd in one punch. Hmmmm seems supes has every bit of the low showings Supes does and even less. Thanks come again

4. Backhanding someone like a child does proves a superiority in strength. Is is really that easy for him

5. Drax and Thanos locking up arms and it blowing up a planet is better than strikes from Zod and Supes blowing up a planet. One has concussive force to it.. the other is just locking up arms in a struggle of power. Wrestling that blows up a planet shows much more strength force than punching each other and it blowing up a planet.

6. Yes but Tyrant is leaps and bounds above DD.

Not in h2h they have comparable feats over powering herald level characters

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
1. Hulk isn't a unknown. He's a known powerhouse is he not? He has incredible lifting feats under his belt right? He's isn't an unknown. In every single feat of his... it never ever says he is this angry and thus this strong. We know he gets pissed and he gets stronger. During the feat in question he was pissed. Point proven and concession accepted.

2. Funny you say DS could've finished off Superman so thus are you saying he's superior in strength to superman? How does this line up with the fact that DS has been beaten by Supes in h2h before? One good showing against supes means he's stronger than Thanos.. I know you wank Supes but really.. that much?

3. Funny you say Supes doesnt have low durability showings.. Tell me then.. Explain Supes getting KO'd by a gas station. So little has NEVER KO'd surfer. I guess thus surfer's durability is greater than Supes. Explain Zod breaking his jaw.. never happened to surfer.. Explain Supes being KO'd in one punch by Konvict... Show me surfer being KO'd in one punch. Hmmmm seems supes has every bit of the low showings Supes does and even less. Thanks come again

4. Backhanding someone like a child does proves a superiority in strength. Is is really that easy for him

5. Drax and Thanos locking up arms and it blowing up a planet is better than strikes from Zod and Supes blowing up a planet. One has concussive force to it.. the other is just locking up arms in a struggle of power. Wrestling that blows up a planet shows much more strength force than punching each other and it blowing up a planet.

6. Yes but Tyrant is leaps and bounds above DD.

Either it was a low showing for Superman or a high one for DS. The same can be said of Thanos against SS

DP Tyrant? In strength? Are you sure? What proof you have for this?

Originally posted by h1a8
I say he's unknown since his strength can range from 100tons to unknown while BEING PISSED. Either it was a low showing for Superman or a high one for DS. The same can be said of Thanos against SS. I understand the notion of everyone has low showings. But there is a limit to how low a character can go. For example, Superman can't go below bulletproof or 100 ton strength under normal conditions, even Bryne's Superman. Surfer going far below these prove that writers don't think he stacks up to Superman physically on average or at best. It doesn't prove anything but what someone thinks of themself, superior in power and knowledge but not necessarily bruth physical strength. Also I can backhand a man who I think I'm superior to yet he whips my ass and manhandles me. I misjudged I guess.But the punches didn't ever hit the planet. It was the shockwaves I guess. But the feat you name is still pretty impressive. It's just not planetary force yet since it takes less force than the weight of a planet exerted on it to destroy it. DP Tyrant? In strength? Are you sure? What proof you have for this?

1. Again he was pissed and when pissed he's done some impressive feats correct? You concede it never says how pissed he is and thus how strong he is, so that kind of exact proof will never exist for hulk. Yes we know he's a powerhouse when pissed and that is all we need to know.

2. Point me to one showing of durability where surfer was KO'd in one punch, had his jaw broken, or KO'd by a gas station. You say every character has low showings.. it's just that surfer's durability showings are lower.. Please prove this. Its seems supes low is worse than SS low by quite a lot.

3. Difference is he backhands them BECAUSE he is superior not because he think he's superior. They don't turn around and kick his ass EVER. That is the difference.

4. It's more impressive and takes more force than shockwaves from punches.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Your another tool much like nvr. I'll ask you to answer the same question I posed to him. Please list me the strength feats of DD and DS that compare to Supes, Thor & Hulk to name some? As I told him, is the concept of villians not having "save the world" strength feats too tough for you to comprehend. If your slightly intelligent you'll agree that they don't and thus why would you expect Thanos to have such feats?

Doomsday and Darkseid don't have to perform "save the world strength feat" because they've already physically beaten Supes before. Even a 12 year old has better deductive reasoning than that. Before you call some one out and tell them what they should comprehend, maybe you should question yourself and see how oblivious you are to the logical fallacies and loopholes, that your spouting.

Thanos only briefly humbled, hell not even one shot class 80 to low end 100 bricks, that Clark could curbstomp handily. Lulz at even bringing up the Thing and Hulk. Fyi buddy, the fight with Drax that was destroying a planet, wasn't even a pure slugfest/wrestling match. There clearly was an energy aura that caused the planet to be destroyed.

I do realize that guys like Superman tend to be wanked and overrated by some posters. However he is still one of the strongest top tier/herald level characters in comics and should be treated as such.

It's one thing to be offended by my claims regarding Thanos, but to retort them with irrelevent bullshit is another. Please, get this message through your skull, Thanos has never physically beaten an adversary that is as well established as Superman or Doomsday. Senseless wanking like that, almost ruins my perspective of Thanos as a character. He deserves praise and respect just as any other character does. But to give him credit for feats he's incapable of or has never shown to perform is pure old fashioned wanking.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
facepalm

Doomsday and Darkseid don't have to perform "save the world strength feat" because [b]they've already physically beaten Supes before. Even a 12 year old has better deductive reasoning than that. Before you call some one out and tell them what they should comprehend, maybe you should question yourself and see how oblivious you are to the logical fallacies and loopholes, that your spouting.

Thanos only briefly humbled, hell not even one shot class 80 to low end 100 bricks, that Clark could curbstomp handily. Lulz at even bringing up the Thing and Hulk. Fyi buddy, the fight with Drax that was destroying a planet, wasn't even a pure slugfest/wrestling match. There clearly was an energy aura that caused the planet to be destroyed.

I do realize that guys like Superman tend to be wanked and overrated by some posters. However he is still one of the strongest top tier/herald level characters in comics and should be treated as such.

It's one thing to be offended by my claims regarding Thanos, but to retort them with irrelevent bullshit is another. Please, get this message through your skull, Thanos has never physically beaten an adversary that is as well established as Superman or Doomsday. Senseless wanking like that, almost ruins my perspective of Thanos as a character. He deserves praise and respect just as any other character does. But to give him credit for feats he's incapable of or has never shown to perform is pure old fashioned wanking. [/B]

1. Supes has beat them before correct? As a matter a fact Supes has killed DD before and gotten the better of DS more times than not. Good try

2. Why is bringing up the Hulk/thing feat funny? Do you not realize that hulk has strength feats to his name? Do I need to name them? I'm sure you realize he has them so why is it a joke. His statement mocking them is very clear.. You think your strong.. I'm strength personified. That says it all.

3. Please show me Supes one shotting anybody on Thanos level. Shoot please post me supes one shotting anyone like Thor, SS or Hulk

4. Did you just Thanos hasn't physically beaten someone as well established as Superman or DD.... is this a joke? he's pummeled SS who is well established. As a matter a fact doesn't have the low low durability showings that Supes has. He's casually physically dismissed Drax and hulk with a mere slap. Again both well established characters. That is all he needs. That is a lot less than what Supes has to dish out to put someone down.

I await your response.

1. NO
3. Despero

Originally posted by xJLxKing
1. NO
3. Despero

No to what? Supes hasn't killed DD before and beaten DS before?

He one shot despero with HV correct? We're talking about punching here

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
1. Supes has beat them before correct? As a matter a fact Supes has killed DD before and gotten the better of DS more times than not. Good try

2. Why is bringing up the Hulk/thing feat funny? Do you not realize that hulk has strength feats to his name? Do I need to name them? I'm sure you realize he has them so why is it a joke. His statement mocking them is very clear.. You think your strong.. I'm strength personified. That says it all.

3. Please show me Supes one shotting anybody on Thanos level. Shoot please post me supes one shotting anyone like Thor, SS or Hulk

4. Did you just Thanos hasn't physically beaten someone as well established as Superman or DD.... is this a joke? he's pummeled SS who is well established. As a matter a fact doesn't have the low low durability showings that Supes has. He's casually physically dismissed Drax and hulk with a mere slap. Again both well established characters. That is all he needs. That is a lot less than what Supes has to dish out to put someone down.

I await your response.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
.........Read the title of the thread, those incarnations of DD are irrelevant to the topic. Hp DD beat a amped Superman.....and Clark has only beaten Darkseid in one pure slugfest. The other times he's beaten him is in poorly written, pis/cis ridden stories that made Darkseid for get his powerset and fight Superman like a idiot. In other fights against Superman level adversaries, he's beaten Orion, amped Kalibak to strength levels beyond Orion's, was unfazed by a punch from Lobo, and has beaten Superman himself on a few occasions. Ds's inconsistencies have been cleared up with final crisis anyways. It established that only Darkseid avatars have appeared on panel.

It's hilarious because neither Thing or enraged Hulk are near Clark's level. It doesn't matter if Thanos has beaten character's with strength feats, it's whether those character's have strength feats that can stack up to Superman's.......in this case they don't......lets not forget that he only backhanded them and not one shot them. And who gives a shit about Thanos commenting one himself. It's normal for villains to revel in their own power. They're not the word of god, nor should be treated as such.

Why are you asking me to show evidence to something I didn't even state? And how about you show me evidence of Thanos one shotting Thor and Hulk, because I don't recall either of those guys being knocked unconscious.

SS, Drax, and Hulk are not as [b]strong as Superman, period. You fail to understand that most herald level/top tier characters are not as strong as Superman. Please that low durability shit out of here.....if you want to play with low showings, I can post you some of pretty much any character......that's why we have rules such as pis to prevent such misconceptions from happening. [/B]

There is no need to comment on anything else you said as I already proved my point. What I will comment on is this bs that the real DS has finally appeared in FC and all the rest were avatars. That bs throw away line means squat. If your really going to stand by that statement than ALL of DS appearances EVER in his history are thrown out as Avatars. That takes away any feats he has ever done. YOu have to do so because you can't pick and choice which ones YOU want to be avatars and which ones you prefer to be really him. I'm very confident that one throw away line wasn't meant to recton his whole entire history. Good try but owned.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos always looks superior to Surfer when they meet so it cant be simple low showing for Surfer. he is just not powerful enough to challenge Thanos .

DP Tyrant put a down a team of Gladiator,Surfer,Beta Ray Bill,Jack of hearts and Ganymede like they was nothing.As well as beating down Morg and Terrax prior to that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
1. Again he was pissed and when pissed he's done some impressive feats correct? You concede it never says how pissed he is and thus how strong he is, so that kind of exact proof will never exist for hulk. Yes we know he's a powerhouse when pissed and that is all we need to know.

2. Point me to one showing of durability where surfer was KO'd in one punch, had his jaw broken, or KO'd by a gas station. You say every character has low showings.. it's just that surfer's durability showings are lower.. Please prove this. Its seems supes low is worse than SS low by quite a lot.

3. Difference is he backhands them BECAUSE he is superior not because he think he's superior. They don't turn around and kick his ass EVER. That is the difference.

4. It's more impressive and takes more force than shockwaves from punches.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

2. Point me to one showing of durability where surfer was KO'd in one punch, had his jaw broken, or KO'd by a gas station. You say every character has low showings.. it's just that surfer's durability showings are lower.. Please prove this. Its seems supes low is worse than SS low by quite a lot.

Durok the demolisher drowned Surfer once.....

This wasn't my argument.. He argued that Superman has never had the low showings that SS has. His claim is that proves that Superman has better durability. I pointed out a variety of low showings for Superman which seem to disprove his point. I never once claimed SS had no low showings

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This wasn't my argument.. He argued that Superman has never had the low showings that SS has. His claim is that proves that Superman has better durability. I pointed out a variety of low showings for Superman which seem to disprove his point. I never once claimed SS had no low showings

Those>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thrown brick.

Originally posted by Juntai
You suggested none of SS's are lower than Superman's. And asked to point you to a time he got knocked out by something less than Zod, or a gas station explosion.

Those>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thrown brick.

Originally posted by Juntai
You suggested none of SS's are lower than Superman's. And asked to point you to a time he got knocked out by something less than Zod, or a gas station explosion.

Those>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thrown brick.

Really?

Think about this...a gas station explodes are your knockout out by the concussive force of the explosion. He wasn't even standing at ground zero. Do you ever watch "world craziest videos" or some bs other show with similar videos.. They show gas stations exploding and people near by who are blown backwards and KO'd, blown back but not KO'd but have lost their hearing from the explosion, burns etc. It varies what happens to normal humans. You think that is really a lot better than getting hit directly in the head by a brick, thrown by someone who thing is finding a weak point in anything or anyone and exploiting it? I disagree. Normal humans have survived gas station explosions and haven't been KO'd. However, you let Karnak throw a brick at any humans head... game over.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey have you seen some of Karnak's feats? I'm not positive that the brick wouldn't have a higher potential for damage...

And the gas station explosion? We'll just say that Superman then is not in any way indicative of his current portrayals. Superman didn't really start doing tons of amazing shit until a bit after his 'death'. When he went from lifting good sized buildings to being able to grab the moon before it crashes to Earth and push it back into proper orbit.