HP Doomsday vs Thanos Fist fight

Started by Juntai17 pages

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Really?

Think about this...a gas station explodes are your knockout out by the concussive force of the explosion. He wasn't even standing at ground zero. Do you ever watch "world craziest videos" or some bs other show with similar videos.. They show gas stations exploding and people near by who are blown backwards and KO'd, blown back but not KO'd but have lost their hearing from the explosion, burns etc. It varies what happens to normal humans. You think that is really a lot better than getting hit directly in the head by a brick, thrown by someone who thing is finding a weak point in anything or anyone and exploiting it? I disagree. Normal humans have survived gas station explosions and haven't been KO'd. However, you let Karnak throw a brick at any humans head... game over.

Link me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ3n7wUA764
I guarantee whoever was standing directly on top of this when it went, didn't give a report to the news afterwards.
Besides, I already discussed this mostly in the last post.

Originally posted by Juntai
Link me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ3n7wUA764
I guarantee whoever was standing directly on top of this when it went, didn't give a report to the news afterwards.
Besides, I already discussed this mostly in the last post.

Gas stations explosions vary and I have seen and I'm sure you can find videos of people in close proximity surviving. However, as I pointed out being hit by Kanark and what is powerset is... yeah I hardly believe that is a lower showing than a exploding gas station not even at ground zero

Why is DOS being referenced?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Gas stations explosions vary and I have seen and I'm sure you can find videos of people in close proximity surviving. However, as I pointed out being hit by Kanark and what is powerset is... yeah I hardly believe that is a lower showing than a exploding gas station not even at ground zero
I bet he throws a brick at Superman, even the weak one in the gas station explosion, and the brick just crumbles.
Regardless of the skill, it still has the physical properties of a brick.
And Superman is still invulnerable to such an attack completely.

Originally posted by Juntai

And the gas station explosion? We'll just say that Superman then is not in any way indicative of his current portrayals. Superman didn't really start doing tons of amazing shit until a bit after his 'death'. When he went from lifting good sized buildings to being able to grab the moon before it crashes to Earth and push it back into proper orbit.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why is DOS being referenced?
I dunno, I came in and he was trying to downplay Superman. I responded.

Originally posted by Juntai
Not too familiar with them, but upon his introduction, Zod was portrayed as vastly superior to Superman.
He was shown as effortlessly able to demolish Bizarro's, who are nearly as powerful as Superman, with a difficulty not much different to Batman crushing random street thug C.
Given Bizarro's showings, being equaled to Superman in strength and stuff, and even foot-racing dead even with Zoom, anyone who can pretty much one panel crush him over and over and over again is a guy to be feared.
It's not too much of a surprised that in their first meeting he swiped Superman before Superman was really ready and cracked his jaw.

And the gas station explosion? We'll just say that Superman then is not in any way indicative of his current portrayals. Superman didn't really start doing tons of amazing shit until a bit after his 'death'. When he went from lifting good sized buildings to being able to grab the moon before it crashes to Earth and push it back into proper orbit.


Oh I know that Supes is far more powerful now than he was then just like Surfer's far more powerful when the brick thing went down, I was just pointing out that the brick wasn't necessarily a lower showing because it was Karnak that launched it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There is no need to comment on anything else you said as I already proved my point. What I will comment on is this bs that the real DS has finally appeared in FC and all the rest were avatars. That bs throw away line means squat. If your really going to stand by that statement than ALL of DS appearances EVER in his history are thrown out as Avatars. That takes away any feats he has ever done. YOu have to do so because you can't pick and choice which ones YOU want to be avatars and which ones you prefer to be really him. I'm very confident that one throw away line wasn't meant to recton his whole entire history. Good try but owned.
facepalm What a sad and pathetic response. If your going to declare yourself the winner atleast try to counter my points with something that's actually relevant to the thread. It really, really irks me when people like you have that audacity to try and pat yourself on the back, when you haven't proven a damn thing.

And can you please tell me what in blue hell does low showings have to do with anything? Stop leaning on them, your trying to take the easy route to win debates. Sadly you don't realize how much of a moot point they are, every character in comics have them. You just to deluded and stubborn to acknowledge the fact that character's like Thanos are not easy to gauge in terms of physical strength, thus we can't put them in the same class as Superman. Clark has consistently been depicted as one of Dc earth's top dogs. Live with it.

As for Darkseid, Clark has only beaten him in pure h2h once. The other two showings against Supes can't be used as black marks. As for your asinine statements towards Darkseid avatars, you do realize they're just physical manifestations of the true Ds right? I would tell you do your homework on the character, but you should have enough common sense to not make such an ignorant ass statement. Your whole entire point regarding Ds and low showings is moot, and holds no relevance to this thread.

Your letting your love for Thanos blind you buddy. If shit like that is the best you can come up with, then you a complete waste of time. 👇

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Gas stations explosions vary and I have seen and I'm sure you can find videos of people in close proximity surviving. However, as I pointed out being hit by Kanark and what is powerset is... yeah I hardly believe that is a lower showing than a exploding gas station not even at ground zero
Lulz, this is getting sad. That incarnation of Superman was weaker than how he's portrayed nowadays. You should be warned for this garbage.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Really?

Think about this...a gas station explodes are your knockout out by the concussive force of the explosion. He wasn't even standing at ground zero. Do you ever watch "world craziest videos" or some bs other show with similar videos.. They show gas stations exploding and people near by who are blown backwards and KO'd, blown back but not KO'd but have lost their hearing from the explosion, burns etc. It varies what happens to normal humans. You think that is really a lot better than getting hit directly in the head by a brick, thrown by someone who thing is finding a weak point in anything or anyone and exploiting it? I disagree. Normal humans have survived gas station explosions and haven't been KO'd. However, you let Karnak throw a brick at any humans head... game over.

No, that gas station exploded like a small nuclear bomb. Explosion was both electric and of gas. Discredit the author for making the explosion that powerful if you like. Also, that is a totally different Superman. This is like comparing Thanos before he got any upgrades to the current Thanos. Pointing out his low showings back then have no bearing on his low showings now. Because they are completely different beings of power. SS is the same and has received no major upgrades, so his low showings is fair game.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Doomsday beats Thanos 10/10, for the simple fact that his strength fights wouldn't even warrant him a spot next to Superman, let alone DD
What are you talking about? Seriously? To even begin to say such a ridiculous thing only further shows how bitter you are towards Thanos. Superman is a top tier in strength while Thanos is above so. It's painfully obvious.
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Wait a minute ....not a natural fighter? Only time Darkseid has come short in h2h, is in poorly written, Superman wankfest stories. He's actually a very skilled hand to hand combatant. Don't give those stories any bit of consideration. Any low showing against Superman is not a black mark against the character.
Give me a few examples please. I'll give you more examples of ds being at a loss to compete when his omega effect is taken out of the equation.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I've not seen one Thanos feat posted in this entire thread....just the same senseless and unfounded Thanos wankery that seems to occupy many threads that involve. Nice try at evading the subject son, but your going have to bring more heat if your going to laugh at a statement.....without having evidence to disprove it of course...........
You've heard multiple examples. Let alone the fact Thor with the power gem's feats literally crap all over DD's in hp. I mean come on now.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
facepalm

I'm hate break it to you buddy but your ridiculous, flat out ignorant, unfounded, low balling, undermining, wanking, and irrational debating(or as I like to call it, debatarding) warranted that response. Never in my life I've seen a group of people so hell bent on extrapolating a single character, that they'll disregard rational thinking and resort to wanking the said character.

The saddest thing about this whole situation his how you pat yourself on the back, feeding your shallow ego, while not refuting a statement with any evidence that would be relevent to the argument. I flat out tell you and even bold key words to explain to you that Surfer is more powerful overall, yet you insist on trying to "disprove" my case by posting irrelevent bullcrap, to both evade my questions and cover your ass.

When you lean on those kind of debat(ard)ing tactics for leverage, you become a lost cause by default, thus the best thing to do when you resort to that form of behavior is dismiss you. You make a few moot points, back up into a corner when someone ask you for proof, and that some how makes you high and mighty.

Sorry son, but that shit doesn't cut it. And if want proof that Supes and Doomsday are physically stronger than Thanos, then you could've just asked.......but you didn't.......so please don't try to give any criticism.....you deserved the fail picture, plain and simple.

Another post where you accuse someone of lowballing and insult the man. It's the norm with you and you want to pain at a picture like it's everyone else.
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
facepalm

Doomsday and Darkseid don't have to perform "save the world strength feat" because [b]they've already physically beaten Supes before. Even a 12 year old has better deductive reasoning than that. Before you call some one out and tell them what they should comprehend, maybe you should question yourself and see how oblivious you are to the logical fallacies and loopholes, that your spouting.

Thanos only briefly humbled, hell not even one shot class 80 to low end 100 bricks, that Clark could curbstomp handily. Lulz at even bringing up the Thing and Hulk. Fyi buddy, the fight with Drax that was destroying a planet, wasn't even a pure slugfest/wrestling match. There clearly was an energy aura that caused the planet to be destroyed.

I do realize that guys like Superman tend to be wanked and overrated by some posters. However he is still one of the strongest top tier/herald level characters in comics and should be treated as such.

It's one thing to be offended by my claims regarding Thanos, but to retort them with irrelevent bullshit is another. Please, get this message through your skull, Thanos has never physically beaten an adversary that is as well established as Superman or Doomsday. Senseless wanking like that, almost ruins my perspective of Thanos as a character. He deserves praise and respect just as any other character does. But to give him credit for feats he's incapable of or has never shown to perform is pure old fashioned wanking. [/B]

DD beat up on a psychologically scarred/scared Superman. He was having nightmares about facing him again and was less powerful. How's that uber impressive?

If you'd read an interview you'd realize that the writer pretty much thinks Superman could do much better against DD if he had the proper mentality and was raised on apokolips.

How is manhandling the Hulk and the Thing physically not impressive?

How? How is beating the Surfer into putty not impressive? How? Please go on a little bit. Superman is a direct equal to Marvel in terms of strength. He doesn't vastly outshine him yet you expect us to believe Marvel and Superman dwarf Thanos in strength? What?

DD's is vastly overrated imo. He's a dumb brick who can't even fly and like you pointed out guys who can't fly suck, amirite? He lacks Thanos' intelligence etc. and is still a deadly villain. Thanos is also more versatile but in this thread I see Thanos as being more powerful than hp DD based on what he actually did.

Quit insulting everyone who disagrees with you and acting like you matter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What are you talking about? Seriously? To even begin to say such a ridiculous thing only further shows how bitter you are towards Thanos. Superman is a top tier in strength while Thanos is above so. It's painfully obvious. Give me a few examples please. I'll give you more examples of ds being at a loss to compete when his omega effect is taken out of the equation.

You've heard multiple examples. Let alone the fact Thor with the power gem's feats literally crap all over DD's in hp. I mean come on now.

Another post where you accuse someone of lowballing and insult the man. It's the norm with you and you want to pain at a picture like it's everyone else.
DD beat up on a psychologically scarred/scared Superman. He was having nightmares about facing him again and was less powerful. How's that uber impressive?

If you'd read an interview you'd realize that the writer pretty much thinks Superman could do much better against DD if he had the proper mentality and was raised on apokolips.

How is manhandling the Hulk and the Thing physically not impressive?

How? How is beating the Surfer into putty not impressive? How? Please go on a little bit. Superman is a direct equal to Marvel in terms of strength. He doesn't vastly outshine him yet you expect us to believe Marvel and Superman dwarf Thanos in strength? What?

DD's is vastly overrated imo. He's a dumb brick who can't even fly and like you pointed out guys who can't fly suck, amirite? He lacks Thanos' intelligence etc. and is still a deadly villain. Thanos is also more versatile but in this thread I see Thanos as being more powerful than hp DD based on what he actually did.

Quit insulting everyone who disagrees with you and acting like you matter.

DD is possibly the most strongest, fastest, most durable, and most aggressive of all the bricks. Adding in evolving immunities and extra powers and bony protrusions and you have a real Doomsday.

I view Thanos as superior in total power set than most top tiers but not in strength. His best strength feats don't even best Thor's. So it is impossible for him to be considered stronger than Superman without introducing faulty logic.

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I love how Quan resurrects a thread just to bait me.😍

Originally posted by h1a8
DD is possibly the most strongest, fastest, most durable, and most aggressive of all the bricks. Adding in evolving immunities and extra powers and bony protrusions and you have a real Doomsday.

I view Thanos as superior in total power set than most top tiers but not in strength. His best strength feats don't even best Thor's. So it is impossible for him to be considered stronger than Superman without introducing faulty logic.

Please prove it then. You just make one statement after the other without so much as even attempting to prove it.

How isn't he stronger than most top tiers in strength? Give me one example of a top tier overpowering him.

Saying Thor is stronger than Thanos is baseless. It shows your ignorance.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
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I love how Quan resurrects a thread just to bait me.😍
I am responding to your posts. Thanos wins here all day. Thor power gem's feats>DD's feats.

Originally posted by Juntai
Link me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ3n7wUA764
I guarantee whoever was standing directly on top of this when it went, didn't give a report to the news afterwards.
Besides, I already discussed this mostly in the last post.


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Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Please prove it then. You just make one statement after the other without so much as even attempting to prove it.

How isn't he stronger than most top tiers in strength? Give me one example of a top tier overpowering him.

Saying Thor is stronger than Thanos is baseless. It shows your ignorance. I am responding to your posts. Thanos wins here all day. Thor power gem's feats>DD's feats.

I didn't say he was the strongest, etc. I said he is "one of the" strongest, etc. Him overpowering, etc. to Superman proves it.

Thor has no great strength PG feats. If you disagree then point me to a strength feat he has done that proves he was a lot stronger than his normal self.

Your second sentence contains faulty logic. You are basically saying that character A is stronger than all since there wasn't ever a showing of them being overpowered. Dumbest logic ever. Who's stronger is based off feats, nothing more. And I don't mean only lifting feats either, but any type of feat that proves it.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't say he was the strongest, etc. I said he is "one of the" strongest, etc. Him overpowering, etc. to Superman proves it.

Thor has no great strength PG feats. If you disagree then point me to a strength feat he has done that proves he was a lot stronger than his normal self.

Your second sentence contains faulty logic. You are basically saying that character A is stronger than all since there wasn't ever a showing of them being overpowered. Dumbest logic ever. Who's stronger is based off feats, nothing more. And I don't mean only lifting feats either, but any type of feat that proves it.

Superman was scared of him and he was weaker. He was stronger than a weaker/pyschologically scared Superman that's for sure. Try actually have a clue about what is going on every once in a while.

He was stronger than he is normally. He was crushing people in that arc. He was gaining strength every second so if a stronger thor can only make Thanos' nose bleed what other conclusion can you come up with? Only you would say a regular Thor is stronger than Thanos. It's sad.

If he hasn't overpowered him how do you know? Just because he has more strength feats doesn't prove anything. Even ten year olds can figure this out. Your logic is horrid.

Originally posted by quanchi112

He was stronger than he is normally. He was crushing people in that arc. He was gaining strength every second so if a stronger thor can only make Thanos' nose bleed what other conclusion can you come up with? Only you would say a regular Thor is stronger than Thanos. It's sad.

I could crush Anderson Silva if he fights mega stupidly. Thor crushing someone who are not fighting the way they should is not indicative of how physically strong he is. A normal determined Thor seems to me to be able to make Thanos bleed too. And Thor was only proven to gain strength every second when he was encased. Not before.

If he hasn't overpowered him how do you know? Just because he has more strength feats doesn't prove anything. Even ten year olds can figure this out. Your logic is horrid.
How do you know Sentry is stronger than WW without using feats, or if any character is stronger than another if they never faced and without using feats? If my logic is horrid then yours is horridble.

Originally posted by h1a8
I could crush Anderson Silva if he fights mega stupidly. Thor crushing someone who are not fighting the way they should is not indicative of how physically strong he is. A normal determined Thor seems to me to be able to make Thanos bleed too. And Thor was only proven to gain strength every second when he was encased. Not before.
How do you know Sentry is stronger than WW without using feats, or if any character is stronger than another if they never faced and without using feats? If my logic is horrid then yours is horridble.
How were they fighting stupidly? This is just another case of you ignoring or dismissing what you don't approve of.

Regardless of what you think about when he actually started amping his strength Thanos took him on pound for pound despite the fact he couldn't ko him because of the power gem and the conclusion you come to is normal Thor is stronger than Thanos? You have no basis for such a conclusion or for pretty much anything you ever post.

Feats prove someone's strength and help them but if Thanos overpowers Gladiator or Thor we know he is stronger than them without lifting the planet. It's common sense and to suggest a villain needs these feats is folly.

You seem ready to accept a double standard when it comes to DD and other dc characters but for marvel ones nothing ever counts which shows a true ignorance/bias in your part.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How were they fighting stupidly? This is just another case of you ignoring or dismissing what you don't approve of.

Regardless of what you think about when he actually started amping his strength Thanos took him on pound for pound despite the fact he couldn't ko him because of the power gem and the conclusion you come to is normal Thor is stronger than Thanos? You have no basis for such a conclusion or for pretty much anything you ever post.

Feats prove someone's strength and help them but if Thanos overpowers Gladiator or Thor we know he is stronger than them without lifting the planet. It's common sense and to suggest a villain needs these feats is folly.

You seem ready to accept a double standard when it comes to DD and other dc characters but for marvel ones nothing ever counts which shows a true ignorance/bias in your part.

SS, the being with FTL reflexes and super speed, couldn't even hit a floating still Thor in space without his hammer. That is the dumbest thing ever.

Thor would have won if thanos didn't cheat, thus Thor was stronger by your logic. By my logic, a brawl doesn't quite show who's the stronger. Thor's strength is dynamic and increases due to his distress. I assure you Thor fighting the celestials in the end seems far stronger than PG Thor.

And I agree 100% that if Thano's overpowers Gladiator or Thor then he is stronger. If you so gladly show this then the argument will be over. I'll except any wrestling feats, punching feats, lifting feats, etc.