Fairy Tail

Originally posted by Q99
YI've considered it, but most of the characters are in just a few power bands.

And I'd want to rank non-FT members if I did ^^ Though it's made moderately tricky by not all guilds ranking things the same (Phantom's S-class mages wouldn't be A in FT. Also, most of FT's near-Ss fight S-class foes pretty often).

Sounds good. See, you're already several steps ahead of me. An absolute scale, like you're proposing, is even better. You already have the stats to base it on. Just combine those stats with feats.

I know this sound stupid, but it gives a better idea where people stand.

Well, I'm less inclined to do so when you're doing an "argue with me just to argue with me," thing in the other thread.

Originally posted by Q99
Well, I'm less inclined to do so when you're doing an "argue with me just to argue with me," thing in the other thread.

I don't let arguments spill over into other discussions. I find that petty and immature. But I can't expect other people to be exactly like me.

next chapters taking forever 🙁

done going through the latest chapters of naruto, bleach, keneichi, freezing, and freezing zero. ima running out of things to read and stuff to do

(yes, i have no life)

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
next chapters taking forever 🙁

done going through the latest chapters of naruto, bleach, keneichi, freezing, and freezing zero. ima running out of things to read and stuff to do

(yes, i have no life)

You should draw, write music, write stories, sculpt, workout, go on a date, or study for a business certification.

Next chapter out, and a good one at that.

Spoiler:
It strikes me Sorcerer Magazine ratings would likely be based on Natsu's *old* stats, and not include his lightning-fire technique

Originally posted by Q99
Next chapter out, and a good one at that.

Spoiler:
It strikes me Sorcerer Magazine ratings would likely be based on Natsu's *old* stats, and not include his lightning-fire technique

I agree: good chapter. I like it when the main character just roflstomps everyone that is supposed to be the big-baddies. Everynow and again, a story/manga should have the main character just rollover people. Like with Ichigo against all the lieutenants when he was saving Rukia. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree: good chapter. I like it when the main character just roflstomps everyone that is supposed to be the big-baddies. Everynow and again, a story/manga should have the main character just rollover people. Like with Ichigo against all the lieutenants when he was saving Rukia. 🙂

He didn't take out any of the guild's real top members like their tourney team, but yea 🙂

I really liked everyone's reactions to him.

Originally posted by Q99
He didn't take out any of the guild's real top members, but yea 🙂

He one-shotted one of their Top-Ten with ease, actually.

He also went toe-to-toe with the Guild Master and landed a punch to his gut. Guildmaster's daughter redirected his last attack. Why? 🙂 Was she afraid he would get hurt? Her words seem to contradict her actions. 😉

And why was Sting crapping himself? Sting is one of the 5 strongest mages. 😄

i thought it was obvious that the ratings fairy tail got in the sorcerer magazine were old stats since the reporter dude haven't seen any of them fight in like 7 years.

As for sting, he looked more excited to me than scared seeing that natsu would be more of a challenge than just someone he'd steamroll through.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You should draw, write music, write stories, sculpt, workout, go on a date, or study for a business certification.

i don't want to! i'm currently earning a second engineering degree and its taking a toll on my brain.

i just wanna sit back, relax, and read some comics/manga.. better yet, i just completed getting my hands on the fairy tail anime (e 1- 130) 😄

i think i'll go on an fairy tail watching marathon now.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
As for sting, he looked more excited to me than scared seeing that natsu would be more of a challenge than just someone he'd steamroll through.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/fairy_tail/v26/c283/12.html

I wouldn't call sweating profusely and look of shock to be "excited". It looks like he is genuinely scared, to me.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
i don't want to! i'm currently earning a second engineering degree and its taking a toll on my brain.

i just wanna sit back, relax, and read some comics/manga.. better yet, i just completed getting my hands on the fairy tail anime (e 1- 130) 😄

i think i'll go on an fairy tail watching marathon now.

You should work out while watching Fairy Tail. 😐

Situps, pushups, jump rope, squats. Don't waste away into poor health.

Originally posted by dadudemon
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/fairy_tail/v26/c283/12.html

I wouldn't call sweating profusely and look of shock to be "excited". It looks like he is genuinely scared, to me.

You should work out while watching Fairy Tail. 😐

Situps, pushups, jump rope, squats. Don't waste away into poor health.

maybe he was sweating in anticipation?

Looks like the power up actually did something considering natsu barely won against whats his face and is now obviously strong enough to be in sabertooths top 10 strongest.

too late! i've already wasted away and gained 30lbs in 3 months 🙁

Originally posted by dadudemon
He one-shotted one of their Top-Ten with ease, actually.

More precisely, they said one-shotting that guy places Natsu on a strength within the top ten. I.e. only the top ten in the guild could do that.

At least going by Mangahere's translation.

He also went toe-to-toe with the Guild Master and landed a punch to his gut. Guildmaster's daughter redirected his last attack. Why? 🙂 Was she afraid he would get hurt? Her words seem to contradict her actions. 😉

Course, she did block one of his very strongest shots, and the Guildmaster didn't take much damage from all the prior ones, so I'm inclined to take her words basically at face value- she thought her dad would win, but also thought things were getting out of hand and whoever won would be bad for Sabertooth.

And why was Sting crapping himself? Sting is one of the 5 strongest mages. 😄

Sting and his partner seemed really affected by his words.

Gotta agree with gogogadgetgo that he seemed at least partially excited too. I think they did underestimate the 'generation 1' dragonslayers and were flat-out surprised to see him doing well in their guild.

Originally posted by Q99
More precisely, they said one-shotting that guy places Natsu on a strength within the top ten.

Well, even more precisely, they said specifically: "That kind of strength would place him within the top ten of our guild."

Originally posted by Q99
I.e. only the top ten in the guild could do that.

No, that would not be a correct interpretation if it is the only one you propose as being correct. Natsu could be #2, if he were in the guild, going by their assessment. That gentleman he one-shotted could be #5, #6, and so forth. We do know that some people are weaker to others because of their magical matchups (think of it like Naruto's elemental weaknesses). We cannot conclude anything other than Natsu is within the top ten and that guy he defeated is somewhere equivalent to people in the top 10.

Originally posted by Q99
Course, she did block one of his very strongest shots,

IMO, that wasn't a block. That was a redirection.

Top panel: that's a block:

http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/283/9

Originally posted by Q99
and the Guildmaster didn't take much damage from all the prior ones,

Natsu withstood a "force push" type of assault from the Guildmaster.

http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/283/9

He made some "guhs" and was punched quite a few times by Natsu.

Originally posted by Q99
so I'm inclined to take her words basically at face value- she thought her dad would win, but also thought things were getting out of hand and whoever won would be bad for Sabertooth.

No, she thought her father would kill Natsu. That may be likely as Natsu was not damaging him much but was using a ton of magic against him.

Natsu took the guild masters force push thingie at point blank range, took some damage (more than the guildmaster ended up with) and then proceeded to wtfpwn the guildmaster before he could do anything.

Originally posted by Q99
Sting and his partner seemed really affected by his words.

Gotta agree with gogogadgetgo that he seemed at least partially excited too. I think they did underestimate the 'generation 1' dragonslayers and were flat-out surprised to see him doing well in their guild.

Maybe so. I am inclined to believe I will eat my words: else there be a dragonslayer rivalry?

No, that would not be a correct interpretation if it is the only one you propose as being correct. Natsu could be #2, if he were in the guild, going by their assessment. That gentleman he one-shotted could be #5, #6, and so forth.

Well, we know that guy's not top 5 (or probably 6th, as summoner girl was picked for the 6th slot in the games instead of him).

We do know that some people are weaker to others because of their magical matchups (think of it like Naruto's elemental weaknesses). We cannot conclude anything other than Natsu is within the top ten and that guy he defeated is somewhere equivalent to people in the top 10.

Could be 11 or 12. Someone close to top 10 to define the border.

'Course, that was just judging from one hit, and not Natsu's strongest. With his lightning-fire mode, Natsu's probably just about equal to some of their top-five people.

IMO, that wasn't a block. That was a redirection.

Yea. It did put a big hole in the wall, after all.

Originally posted by Q99
Well, we know that guy's not top 5 (or probably 6th, as summoner girl was picked for the 6th slot in the games instead of him).

Are there 5 people in each group? I specifically selected #5 and 6 because I thought each of the tournie groups had 4 people. Brain fart.

I amend my post to mean #6 or #7.

Originally posted by Q99
Could be 11 or 12. Someone close to top 10 to define the border.

Or it could be #6, 7, 8, 9. We simply do not know. We do know that beating him down makes you within top 10, however. Natsu beat him down quite handily, too, I'll note.

Originally posted by Q99
'Course, that was just judging from one hit, and not Natsu's strongest. With his lightning-fire mode, Natsu's probably just about equal to some of their top-five people.

I would say Natsu is superior to all but 2 of their top 5. Natsu seems to have rolled over their guild and they are supposedly the strongest guild.

For comparison's sake, Makarov would have crushed Natsu with a single smack-down. I think the guild is inflated in strength.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea. It did put a big hole in the wall, after all.

We've seen better from Natsu (un-amped).

Originally posted by dadudemon
Or it could be #6, 7, 8, 9. We simply do not know. We do know that beating him down makes you within top 10, however. Natsu beat him down quite handily, too, I'll note.

I agree, he could be ranked 6-10. He's probably in the Sabertooth's top 10 since if Natsu beat the 11th ranked or so, he'd be in the top 15 and not the top 10 strongest.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I would say Natsu is superior to all but 2 of their top 5. Natsu seems to have rolled over their guild and they are supposedly the strongest guild.

For comparison's sake, Makarov would have crushed Natsu with a single smack-down. I think the guild is inflated in strength.

We can't say for certain that Natsu is stronger than any of the top 5. All we know is that he beat someone who is probably in the top 10 with ease.

I think the reason why the member's of Sabertooth were surprised with Natsu's strength was because he is from Fairy Tail. Remember, Fairy Tail now sucks and is considered as the weakest guild.

Much like how the Phantom Lord thought very little of Fairy Tail, and when they tried to take them on, Phantom got their ass kicked.

The regular members of Sabertooth are probably no stronger than the cannon fodder of phantom. They just think too highly of themselves hence their surprise.

Plus lets face it, what's hisface who tookover guildmaster duties during the 7 years of nothing is lame.

I'm excited to see how Natsu and Gajeel stacks up with the 3rd generation dragon slayers.

I'm also feeling something nasty happening to Laxus. Like Raven tail extracting his dragonslayer lachyrima. Though, i'd really like to see what happens if this does happen. Would Laxus just be somekinda weakling or would his lightning magic still carry over.

I agree, he could be ranked 6-10. He's probably in the Sabertooth's top 10 since if Natsu beat the 11th ranked or so, he'd be in the top 15 and not the top 10 strongest.

Nah, if you beat down someone easily, that means you're stronger than them, not just in the same category.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
I agree, he could be ranked 6-10. He's probably in the Sabertooth's top 10 since if Natsu beat the 11th ranked or so, he'd be in the top 15 and not the top 10 strongest.

I agree. Your logic is the most reasonable thing said in this debate, thus far. I didn't think of it that way.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
We can't say for certain that Natsu is stronger than any of the top 5. All we know is that he beat someone who is probably in the top 10 with ease.

Again, I agree here, as well.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
I think the reason why the member's of Sabertooth were surprised with Natsu's strength was because he is from Fairy Tail. Remember, Fairy Tail now sucks and is considered as the weakest guild.

Much like how the Phantom Lord thought very little of Fairy Tail, and when they tried to take them on, Phantom got their ass kicked.

That's a good point.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
The regular members of Sabertooth are probably no stronger than the cannon fodder of phantom. They just think too highly of themselves hence their surprise.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Plus lets face it, what's hisface who tookover guildmaster duties during the 7 years of nothing is lame.

He was certainly a smart guy. But, yes, he didn't have very strong abilities. It wasn't his fault: all the S-Class mages disappeared (those guys were all S-Class...no doubt).

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
I'm excited to see how Natsu and Gajeel stacks up with the 3rd generation dragon slayers.

I am, as well.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
I'm also feeling something nasty happening to Laxus. Like Raven tail extracting his dragonslayer lachyrima. Though, i'd really like to see what happens if this does happen. Would Laxus just be some kinda weakling or would his lightning magic still carry over.

I think something will happen to Laxus, as well. Seems as though his time has come up for something bad to happen since he's all "good" now.

Originally posted by Q99
Nah, if you beat down someone easily, that means you're stronger than them, not just in the same category.

That's not entirely true. If you beat someone in the top ten, your strength likely falls within the top ten. There's no way to say that Natsu is stronger than their top 5, though. Just top ten.