Originally posted by socool8520I agree...but Erza is now a just a walking deus ex machina device. You know she ain't going to lose. No matter what. Even if all her limbs are dismembered and gets impaled on a giant tree you know she is going to push through lol.
Whaaat??? I'm actually glad there is finally a female badass in a manga i enjoy. One Piece and naruto have both let me down in that aspect.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I agree...but Erza is now a just a walking deus ex machina device. You know she ain't going to lose. No matter what. Even if all her limbs are dismembered and gets impaled on a giant tree you know she is going to push through lol.
Hey, remember when she got poisoned by Cobra, or when Jellal tricked her and did that snake enchantment?
She cleared the tower with 100 monsters that included an S class monster that is comparable to a Saint mage.
She got poisoned by Cobra but after being healed, proceeded to beating the crap out of Orasion Seis strongest member, Midnight
Getting tricked doesn't equate to losing in a straight on fight
Eragor erected a wind barrier then ran away.
She was standing up to Jose too, and that was during the first few arcs.
Next to Natsu, Erza has the most "nakama instant power up you win button".
Case in point, she was already totally drained and losing like no ones business against Azuma but suddenly found some extra added energy and kicked his ass.
No way's Erza loosing to anyone and that makes it lame.
This is how I wish the fights turn out
Gajeel - win
Juvia - win
Erza - loss
Laxus - undecided - maybe having him lose if it means showing off the power of the new big bad. He will probably lose though. Soloing Raven tail is still too much lol.
At least Grey got a clean win. He kind of needs wins like this because it feels like his stock has lowered each time new/more powerful FT member is introduced.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
She cleared the tower with 100 monsters that included an S class monster that is comparable to a Saint mage.
Even better: it was monster than even "most" Wizard Saints would have difficulty beating.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/fairy_tail/v26/c284/14.html
"The S-Class monster has strength such that even one of the 10 wizard saints can't be guaranteed to defeat it."
Originally posted by Zack Fair
This is how I wish the fights turn outAt least Grey got a clean win. He kind of needs wins like this because it feels like his stock has lowered each time new/more powerful FT member is introduced.
Like who? I really only see Gazille being stronger of the new members who have joined. Juuvia was beaten by gray a while ago and Wendy would lose to Gray imo. Lucy would get annihilated. hell, I think that Gazille could possibly lose to Gray. Mistgun, Laxus and Gildartz don't count since they were introduced as much stronger from the get go.
Originally posted by socool8520
Like who? I really only see Gazille being stronger of the new members who have joined. Juuvia was beaten by gray a while ago and Wendy would lose to Gray imo. Lucy would get annihilated. hell, I think that Gazille could possibly lose to Gray. Mistgun, Laxus and Gildartz don't count since they were introduced as much stronger from the get go.
Mira Jane is back in full force >> Grey
Lightning tribe now in the picture > Grey
Laxus now has a larger part >>>> Grey
Gajill tanked the full onslought of a DF Drgaon Slayer >>Grey
Cana handling fairy glitter now plus the 1st commenting on how much power she really has > Grey
So, yeah, its like Grey is now the big medium gun now below the real big guns
Originally posted by socool8520Er should've been more precise. I meant to say new characters. Such as Gajeel, Laxus, Mystogan, Gildarts, Laxus's groupies etc
Like who? I really only see Gazille being stronger of the new members who have joined. Juuvia was beaten by gray a while ago and Wendy would lose to Gray imo. Lucy would get annihilated. hell, I think that Gazille could possibly lose to Gray. Mistgun, Laxus and Gildartz don't count since they were introduced as much stronger from the get go.
Edit I see so you automatically exclude them. I didn't mean "Chars who have grown stronger than Grey" Just characters that once introduced lower his stock. *shrug*
Anyways Grey got the win and thats all that matters. IMO what he really needs is a match with one of Fairy Tail's top tiers.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Er should've been more precise. I meant to say new characters. Such as Gajeel, Laxus, Mystogan, Gildarts, Laxus's groupies etc[b]Edit
I see so you automatically exclude them. I didn't mean "Chars who have grown stronger than Grey" Just characters that once introduced lower his stock. *shrug*Anyways Grey got the win and thats all that matters. IMO what he really needs is a match with one of Fairy Tail's top tiers. [/B]
I excluded them because they were already known to be stronger than Natsu and Gray irrc. Even Mirajane was mentioned to be extremely powerful before she thought her sister died. I believe Erza had hinted at most of these people being stronger when she was introduced.
I don't see how is stock has lowered though. It's pretty much right where it has been, right at or just below Natsu's. Like I said, I think he even has a shot at beating Gajeel.
I agree that it was good for him to get a win, and against a strong opponent, but going against an S class FT mage is a bit much. I don't think he can beat the top tier right now. If Natsu can't then how would Gray?
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Mira Jane is back in full force >> Grey
Lightning tribe now in the picture > Grey
Laxus now has a larger part >>>> Grey
Gajill tanked the full onslought of a DF Drgaon Slayer >>Grey
Cana handling fairy glitter now plus the 1st commenting on how much power she really has > GreySo, yeah, its like Grey is now the big medium gun now below the real big guns
Wasn't he always? That's where Natsu and Gray started. Pretty much the strongest of the non S classes. All save for Cana and the Laxxus roadies are S classes.
Also, I thought Gray did handle one of the Lightning tribe guys the second time around.
Minerva's pretty cold!
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Mira Jane is back in full force >> Grey
Lightning tribe now in the picture > Grey
Laxus now has a larger part >>>> Grey
Gajill tanked the full onslought of a DF Drgaon Slayer >>Grey
Cana handling fairy glitter now plus the 1st commenting on how much power she really has > GreySo, yeah, its like Grey is now the big medium gun now below the real big guns
Mirajane and Laxus, sure... but Lightning Tribe? Cana (who *only* has FG when it's lent to her, and it's only one attack)? Even Gajeel? Not sure on those.
Gray's beaten two very tough foes recently, Ultear and Rufus. He got Second Origin. He's pretty badass.
Originally posted by socool8520Never said he should beat them. Just wanna see how long he would last and how well he performs. A spar of sorts if you will, like Natsu vs Gildartz.
I excluded them because they were already known to be stronger than Natsu and Gray irrc. Even Mirajane was mentioned to be extremely powerful before she thought her sister died. I believe Erza had hinted at most of these people being stronger when she was introduced.I don't see how is stock has lowered though. It's pretty much right where it has been, right at or just below Natsu's. Like I said, I think he even has a shot at beating Gajeel.
I agree that it was good for him to get a win, and against a strong opponent, but going against an S class FT mage is a bit much. I don't think he can beat the top tier right now. If Natsu can't then how would Gray?
I'd like to see a fight between Gajeel and Grey.