Fairy Tail

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So...Minerva discovered the secret of friendship powahs? Oh and I'm still laughing at the fact that Jinemba actually got taken out by Sting.

I like how she's trying to game friendship power in a totally ruthless way ^^

And her "Silence, we don't need losers," was sweet.

She is pretty sadistic. Using a man's cat against him. lol

This further makes that Jimbe guy look weak. One shot and the dude was done. Makes me think Natsu would have owned him easy.

Originally posted by socool8520

This further makes that Jimbe guy look weak. One shot and the dude was done. Makes me think Natsu would have owned him easy.

Natsu *did* beat on him and he was able to take a fair amount of it.

Power of feelings and all that. If Fairy Tail was at stake, he'd own him like Sting did. Without such a drive, it's a longer fight.

Originally posted by Q99
Minerva's pretty cold!

Mirajane and Laxus, sure... but Lightning Tribe? Cana (who *only* has FG when it's lent to her, and it's only one attack)? Even Gajeel? Not sure on those.

Gray's beaten two very tough foes recently, Ultear and Rufus. He got Second Origin. He's pretty badass.

I feel that any member of the lightning tribe can take out Grey. Even Evergreen (yeah, she'd probably resort to turning him to stone, but thats still a win)

Cana was lent FG alright, but the 1st commented on how much power she really had. While all Grey got was "ummmm...U gonna lose *****! bit then again, nakama power for the win..so why not..."

Also Cana = HOT!, Greay = Not hot lol!

Hmm...I'll have to read it again. I thought it was a weak show of power by Natsu and that he really hadn't tried all that hard.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
I feel that any member of the lightning tribe can take out Grey. Even Evergreen (yeah, she'd probably resort to turning him to stone, but thats still a win)

Cana was lent FG alright, but the 1st commented on how much power she really had. While all Grey got was "ummmm...U gonna lose *****! bit then again, nakama power for the win..so why not..."

Also Cana = HOT!, Greay = Not hot lol!

I think Gray could beat Bickslow now. bickslow had the advantage because all magick was nullified in close range the first time he and Gray fought.

I think he would beat Cana too. Her cards aren't gonna cut it, and she hasn't mastered that FG yet.

Originally posted by socool8520
I think Gray could beat Bickslow now. bickslow had the advantage because all magick was nullified in close range the first time he and Gray fought.

I think he would beat Cana too. Her cards aren't gonna cut it, and she hasn't mastered that FG yet.

You forget, Bixlow also has an insta-win magic stare. (really cheezy ly evergreen). If Bixlow got serious, and used his crazy eyes thingy, Grey will lose.

As for Cana, BOOBS >>>>>>> Ice make = Cana wins! end of story! Yes, I'm extremely biased as Cana, with Mira jane are two of my favorite characters. so there ahahahaha! lololol!

Gray's ice can be used to block LOS, though. Bixlow's pretty fragile when you hit him, and Gray'd be able to imprison his puppets.

While all Grey got was "ummmm...U gonna lose *****! bit then again, nakama power for the win..so why not..."

Yea, because he was facing Rufus, the so-far most impressive member of Sabertooth with a nasty magic set that lets him both undo ice make and use almost whatever magic he wants. And the way he won was pretty good, he didn't nakama power, he used tactics (Make too fast, then when he uses fire to counter, plow through because Gray's fire resistant).

yeah...no... it was nakama power. The first said it herself, Grey was a terrible match up for rufus, but agreed to let Grey take him on because of the "power of feelings" thingy could do "anything"..yeah...whatever.

Plus if you think about it, for someone supposedly smart like Rufus, how the hell does he let his guard down just because he used fire to counter Grey's ice attacks? Its like he went "yeah! me block your ice! me now stand still and celebrate like a moron". Leaving him open for the ice sword attack that grey loves so much.

Grey had zero business winning, but then again, the book is called "Fairy tail" so, obviously, he gets a free pass. Much like how everyone gets a free pass. well, except for Lucy who keeps on getting her ass kicked and beaten to a pulp and Juvia who lost due to having a too much confidence.

Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with fairy tail kicking ass, but it should be that they beat up who they can actually beat up. I hate it when someone who is obviously inferior suddenly wins due to some sudden surge of energy pulled out of their ass coz dey haz feelings and friendship shiet.

yeah...no... it was nakama power. The first said it herself, Grey was a terrible match up for rufus, but agreed to let Grey take him on because of the "power of feelings" thingy could do "anything"..yeah...whatever.

That Gray took down a 'terrible matchup' shows how strong he is. And we saw how he did it, emotions might've helped fuelled it but it was impressive fighting.

lus if you think about it, for someone supposedly smart like Rufus, how the hell does he let his guard down just because he used fire to counter Grey's ice attacks? Its like he went "yeah! me block your ice! me now stand still and celebrate like a moron". Leaving him open for the ice sword attack that grey loves so much.

Let his guard down? Keep in mind it's not like he just melted the ice and then waited. He hit the ice and Gray, and Gray took the damage and kept coming.

Grey had zero business winning,

Except he fought smarter and knew when to tank an attack to win.

hate it when someone who is obviously inferior suddenly wins due to some sudden surge of energy pulled out of their ass coz dey haz feelings and friendship shiet.

Except Gray's not obviously inferior, this isn't his first rodeo against a strong foe, he did get Second Origin like Natsu and Erza did, and he is supposed to be Natsu's near-equal.

They really haven't clearly stated who stronger between those two have they? I give natsu the slight edge, but it isn't much if at all.

I thought Gray did well. He effectively neutralized the memory make magick which was most of Rufus' strength. Even Gray tanking the flames wasn't a stretch considering his rival is probably the strongest fire user there is.

Originally posted by socool8520
They really haven't clearly stated who stronger between those two have they? I give natsu the slight edge, but it isn't much if at all.

I thought Gray did well. He effectively neutralized the memory make magick which was most of Rufus' strength. Even Gray tanking the flames wasn't a stretch considering his rival is probably the strongest fire user there is.

He pulled that trick before, even. Against the owl-guy of Trinity Raven, who ate Natsu and absorbed a lot of his magic.

Originally posted by Q99
I like how she's trying to game friendship power in a totally ruthless way ^^

And her "Silence, we don't need losers," was sweet.

I's awesome especially since she's someone who actually acknowledge nakama power other than Fairy Tale characters.

So...is she going to start purging members who loose fight too?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I's awesome especially since she's someone who actually acknowledge nakama power other than Fairy Tale characters.

So...is she going to start purging members who loose fight too?

My thought is it'd depend on whether or not they have friends. Like, someone's membership may be held as hostage to motivate someone else.

I want to see the full extent of her power (Minerva). She's pretty cocky, and she was able to stop natsu's attack. I just wonder if it's power that makes her cocky, or her intelligence/manipulative nature.

She's definitely calculating, and yea, stopped Natsu's attacks. But she also seems to not want center stage- note how she pushed Sting forward here. So while Minerva has power, she's also used to using others as a front.

Hmmmm.... I'm kinda pondering if she might've been the original mind behind Sabertooth to begin with, and her dad a pawn.

Originally posted by Q99
She's definitely calculating, and yea, stopped Natsu's attacks. But she also seems to not want center stage- note how she pushed Sting forward here. So while Minerva has power, she's also used to using others as a front.

Hmmmm.... I'm kinda pondering if she might've been the original mind behind Sabertooth to begin with, and her dad a pawn.

Good point. If she truly were the more powerful, why would she lean on Sting? However, she must be powerful enough to take the risk of Sting going beserk on her even if she does have the upper hand.

It seems reasonable considering how weak Jiemma looked, and how easily she dismissed him once he was beaten. hell, she even stopped him from fighting with natsu.

It may be she is truly strong, but prefers to keep an extra layer between her and others 'just in case'.

Which is I think will be a nice contrast between her and Erza, who's truly strong and then prefers to put herself on the line.

(Hm, I also wonder if she either was helping boost her dad against Natsu, or alternatively helping Sting... I'm thinking all kinds of paranoid theories in other words ^^)

lol...we'll soon see.

Originally posted by Q99
That Gray took down a 'terrible matchup' shows how strong he is. And we saw how he did it, emotions might've helped fuelled it but it was impressive fighting.

Let his guard down? Keep in mind it's not like he just melted the ice and then waited. He hit the ice and Gray, and Gray took the damage and kept coming.

Except he fought smarter and knew when to tank an attack to win.

Except Gray's not obviously inferior, this isn't his first rodeo against a strong foe, he did get Second Origin like Natsu and Erza did, and he is supposed to be Natsu's near-equal.

No, its just show that the 1str is right and that the "power of their feelings" >>>> all.

Yes he did, he used his memory make magic to block the ice with fire and thought that it took out grey. Anyone with half a brain wont be that stupid and just stand there thinking that its over. But Grey is suppose so win, so there you go.

Not to mention Rufu's magic is so broken that you dont know whats its suppose to do. I can argue that he has memorized Grey's magic and could just erase the ice all together thus completely shutting Grey down. You could say that Rufus can only erase a magic that he's only seen, but the Ice make is just Ice shaped into different things, so just eliminate the ice itself = game over for Grey.

No, Grey is no longer considered as near Natsu. Natsu lost to the owl dood coz he got motion sickness if I remember correctly. So, Grey didnt show anything there that made him Near Natsu. The owl guy may have absorbed some of natsu's flame, but obviously it still wasnt complete hence it was weaker. Stop making that that was a great feat coz it wasn't. Natsu lost due to the fact that he was made sick with motion sickness and was eaten.

Grey hasn't taken out anyone really worth mentioning as uber. Juvia? nope, bad match up, she's water, ice freezes water. The owl? he uses tactics and researches his enemies before going after them and he's really just weak so again no. Orasion seis speedy dood? nope, he couldnt do shit and needed his ice bro to figure it out on how to win. Ultear? nope, they fell into the see and she saw some memories thus losing the will to fight.

Grey hasn't really taken out anyone of note. While Natsu has taken on Jellal, zero, that wind dood, etc. so, no, not on the level. not even close.

And dont even bring up him getting nominated for the s class exam as levy was in there too and her magic isnt something to write home about.