Thor vs Orion in strict skilled H2H combat.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats debatable since thor tends to hold back a lot. He might take the gloves off on threats like celestials, we dont know but it has happened enough times for it to be something common for the character.

Lets also add him damaging mangog and the destroyer in that mix.

i'm simply amazed that you'll so readily accept thor feats without argument, but when it comes to someone like superman or wonder woman, you're all up in arms.

i honestly don't know if thor could hurt a celestial. maybe he can, but he has to have a consistent basis for doing so woven in to the character and his feats and showings over the years.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i'm simply amazed that you'll so readily accept thor feats without argument, but when it comes to someone like superman or wonder woman, you're all up in arms.

i honestly don't know if thor could hurt a celestial. maybe he can, but he has to have a consistent basis for doing so woven in to the character and his feats and showings over the years.

And what feats have I discredited of Wonder woman and Superman?

Originally posted by carver9
And what feats have I discredited of Wonder woman and Superman?

i actually lol'd. thanks for that.

i dunno... all of them? or a very heavy majority.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i actually lol'd. thanks for that.

i dunno... all of them? or a very heavy majority.

LOL, why did you laugh and I didnt discredit your feats, you add on to feats making it appear as something that its not.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i actually lol'd. thanks for that.

i dunno... all of them? or a very heavy majority.

He not discrediting them, you and I just aren't smart enough to figure out what's really taking place. 😉

Example

Originally posted by carver9
Example

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, why did you laugh and I didnt discredit your feats, you add on to feats making it appear as something that its not.

🙄

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, why did you laugh and I didnt discredit your feats, you add on to feats making it appear as something that its not.

see? you're doing it right now.

Originally posted by carver9
But using that logic is crazy since thor has damaged celestials with physical might.

That feat alone would making his hits>>>>>>>anyone on the high herald level list.

Is that what you are trying to say?

Orion.

Thor has nothing on him in a physical fight that matters.

^What does Orion have on Thor?

Originally posted by lawest9
No weapons or energy manip, strictly strength, durability, skill and heart, no MB for Orion.

Who wins this bloodlusted match?

No motherbox? That means Orion turns into a raging beast doesn't it?

Either way that would favor Thor as I understand it, as Thor would have a clear head and would be able to use his skills effectively (Unless Orion can use his skills just as well when he goes mad like he does without the Motherbox keeping the rage he inherited from Darkseid in check.), and if Thor resorts into a berserker state as well, eventually he'd hit the Madness, and get a 10 times amp in strength.

If Thor goes punch for punch, Orion's brutality and madness would give him the advantage. Eventually though Thor would hit that state of mind as well.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Orion. Thor needs Mjonir to hang with them

Ridiculous.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Without his motherbox doesn't Orion go into a sort of feral state where he is overcome by his father's rage and gets a huge strength increase but loses the connection to the Astroforce?

See that's how Kirby originally wrote Orion. Mother Box not only heals him but also controls his rage. In KC when Superman asked for an audience with him he was without his MB. Thus explaining he finally became the mighty force DS had held.

Gold locks Thor loses H2H with an enrage Orion. Taking away the MB from Orion just does him a big favor.

Orion is a chained vicious dog and there is a reason the chain must always be on.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite

Gold locks Thor loses H2H with an enrage Orion. Taking away the MB from Orion just does him a big favor.

Orion is a chained vicious dog and there is a reason the chain must always be on.

Orion going feral would work against him both ways because Thor would be able to use a clear head or he could also go feral and become 10 times stronger.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
also go feral and become 10 times stronger.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion going feral would work against him both ways because Thor would be able to use a clear head or he could also go feral and become 10 times stronger.

A clear head and strategy goes out the window. Case in point...In Orion #5 before the big brawl....DS points to Orion to remove his MB for the fight. DS was expecting to control and exploit the rage of Orion. Then Orion abides and it backfire on DS side.

I'm not taking anything away from Thor nor do I doubt his powers. But an enrage Orion is nothing like an enrage Hulk. Orion is a complete power level here...

Originally posted by WickedDynamite

Gold locks Thor loses H2H with an enrage Orion. Taking away the MB from Orion just does him a big favor.

Orion is a chained vicious dog and there is a reason the chain must always be on.

I get a lot of these misconceptions that an enrage Orion is similar to an enrage Hulk and that's just epic wrong.

While Hulk rage powers him on...Orion's rage on the other hand makes him a better combatant.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
I get a lot of these misconceptions that an enrage Orion is similar to an enrage Hulk and that's just epic wrong.

While Hulk rage powers him on...Orion's rage on the other hand makes him a better combatant.