the N word

Originally posted by Blinky
Shaddap, you sauerkraut-eating Nazi.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It begun long before European slave trade and ended (???) way after.

Thats why the name for all black people in Arabic remains ''abid''. Which is equal to Americans using word ''slave'' to refer to all black people.

This fact doesn't seem to bother FirstofNorth...maybe because he knows that Americans are obliged through ''white guilt'' to listen to him whine and b!tch.

.................

And one more thing for FON,

How exactly is one stripped of ''African'' culture (ignoring at this point that Africa is a continent with thousands of cultures and customs and hundreds of languages), when those cultures exist in Africa still - well and alive.
Move to Africa, learn the language, assimilate and reclaim your ''culture''...that is if you know which country your ancestors came from. Or you can just pick at random, I suppose.

Fist of The North You're better served putting her on Ignore.

Little Bitchiness your "Go Back To Africa." comments are offensive.

Go back far enough, we're all from Africa.

Originally posted by shiv
Fist of The North You're better served putting her on Ignore.

Little Bitchiness your "Go Back To Africa." comments are offensive.

Don't even try that crap on me. Him claiming African culture died with slaves is plain ignorant and if anything offensive to Africans (genuine Africans).
Slaves in America didn't arrive with single ''African culture''. They came to America with Nigerian, Gambian, Ghanian...etc culture - all unique and different...from clothes, to food to traditions, to religions.

You now have American culture - you're part of American culture. If you don't want to be part of American culture (but you don't have much choice, seeing how you are American), then import culture from your country, revive it and live it. Mix it with American culture. Links to Africa are now open.
French Canadians had links closed with France for 400 years. And by now they're not French any more, they're Quebecois or Francophone Americans - and have their OWN culture, which is different to Anglophones and Allophones.

Americans are the same. Neither Europeans nor Africans, nor Asians, but Americans.

Crying about 'stripping of African culture' is just a whiny ass argument and grouping traditions of all African countries into single thing is just plain ignorant.

Originally posted by shiv
Fist of The North You're better served putting her on Ignore.

There's no need for comments like that, shiv. Please avoid it.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Don't even try that crap on me. Him claiming African culture died with slaves is plain ignorant and if anything offensive to Africans (genuine Africans).
Slaves in America didn't arrive with single ''African culture''. They came to America with Nigerian, Gambian, Ghanian...etc culture - all unique and different...from clothes, to food to traditions, to religions.

You now have American culture - you're part of American culture. If you don't want to be part of American culture (but you don't have much choice, seeing how you are American), then import culture from your country, revive it and live it. Mix it with American culture. Links to Africa are now open.
French Canadians had links closed with France for 400 years. And by now they're not French any more, they're Quebecois or Francophone Americans - and have their OWN culture, which is different to Anglophones and Allophones.

Americans are the same. Neither Europeans nor Africans, nor Asians, but Americans.

Crying about 'stripping of African culture' is just a whiny ass argument and grouping traditions of all African countries into single thing is just plain ignorant.

threads like these shouldnt be open in the 1st place all they lead to is fights and someone getting offended because everyone else has their own opinions or can lead to someone getting booted

Originally posted by shiv
Fist of The North You're better served putting her on Ignore.

Little Bitchiness your "Go Back To Africa." comments are offensive.

If you want to genuinely understand African culture going to Africa is a good idea.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Don't even try that crap on me. Him claiming African culture died with slaves is plain ignorant and if anything offensive to Africans (genuine Africans).
Slaves in America didn't arrive with single ''African culture''. They came to America with Nigerian, Gambian, Ghanian...etc culture - all unique and different...from clothes, to food to traditions, to religions.

You now have American culture - you're part of American culture. If you don't want to be part of American culture (but you don't have much choice, seeing how you are American), then import culture from your country, revive it and live it. Mix it with American culture. Links to Africa are now open.
French Canadians had links closed with France for 400 years. And by now they're not French any more, they're Quebecois or Francophone Americans - and have their OWN culture, which is different to Anglophones and Allophones.

Americans are the same. Neither Europeans nor Africans, nor Asians, but Americans.

Crying about 'stripping of African culture' is just a whiny ass argument and grouping traditions of all African countries into single thing is just plain ignorant.

You have no idea how ..[..on second thoughts I think I'll let discretion be the better part of valour and edit this bit out..].. sound.

Slaves didn't come from Nigeria or Gambia or Ghana.

There wasn't A Ghana A Nigeria Or A New Guinea or Democratic Republic of Congo or Nyasaland which later turned to Malawi etc.

These were European created Nation States After Native Forms of governance were dismantled and progressively eradicated by The Signatories to Otto Van Bismarks' Division Of Africa conference convened to preempt and organise the scramble for Africa.

Analysis of your scrips suggests circular logic[well meaning] and an allergy to factual information aided by a not too flexible attitude, could keep you from realising a rudimentary understanding of the current status of The Pan African diaspora.

Originally posted by REXXXX
There's no need for comments like that, shiv. Please avoid it.

:note to self:

Perm Ban Imminent.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If you want to genuinely understand African culture going to Africa is a good idea.

historically people who've encouraged African Americans to travel to The African Continent have never had good intentions

Reference Popular Culture: English Phrases current decade & preceding half century: Western Europe and The U.S.

"go the fVck back to Africa!"

often followed by the noun

"Ni**er!"

from the overall tone of the message the helpful advice to emigrate had a heavy hint of ... you know what. I'll stop right there. My red perm ban indicator light is flashing.

Adieu.

Originally posted by shiv
historically people who've encouraged African Americans to travel to The African Continent have never had good intentions

Reference Popular Culture: English Phrases current decade & preceding half century: Western Europe and The U.S.

"go the fVck back to Africa!"

often followed by the noun

"Ni**er!"

from the overall tone of the message the helpful advice to emigrate had a heavy hint of ... you know what. I'll stop right there. My red perm ban indicator light is flashing.

Adieu.

The racist sentiment is "if you're African, go to Africa" which was not what she said. FOTN complained that he felt that he wasn't in touch with African culture.

If you want to be a part of European culture go to Europe. If you want to be a part of Asian culture go to Asia. If you want to be part of African culture go to Africa. Racism just doesn't come into the equation.

Originally posted by shiv

historically people who've encouraged African Americans to travel to The African Continent have never had good intentions

Or it could just mean exactly what Symetrical said. You're adding something that wasn't/isn't there, for the sake of bitching about it afterwards.

I've actually been to "Africa"

forgive me for commenting on a subject I obviously know nothing about.

ciao

Originally posted by shiv
I've actually been to "Africa"

forgive me for commenting on a subject I obviously know nothing about.

ciao

Awesome.

That wasn't the issue, your knee-jerking was. It's okay, it happens to the best of us.

Originally posted by shiv
I've actually been to "Africa"

forgive me for commenting on a subject I obviously know nothing about.

ciao

Cool. I've been to "Africa" and to Africa.

Originally posted by shiv
You have no idea how ..[..on second thoughts I think I'll let discretion be the better part of valour and edit this bit out..].. sound.

Slaves didn't come from Nigeria or Gambia or Ghana.

There wasn't A Ghana A Nigeria Or A New Guinea or Democratic Republic of Congo or Nyasaland which later turned to Malawi etc.

These were European created Nation States After Native Forms of governance were dismantled and progressively eradicated by The Signatories to Otto Van Bismarks' Division Of Africa conference convened to preempt and organise the scramble for Africa.

Analysis of your scrips suggests circular logic[well meaning] and an allergy to factual information aided by a not too flexible attitude, could keep you from realising a rudimentary understanding of the current status of The Pan African diaspora.

:note to self:

Perm Ban Imminent.

historically people who've encouraged African Americans to travel to The African Continent have never had good intentions

Reference Popular Culture: English Phrases current decade & preceding half century: Western Europe and The U.S.

"go the fVck back to Africa!"

often followed by the noun

"Ni**er!"

from the overall tone of the message the helpful advice to emigrate had a heavy hint of ... you know what. I'll stop right there. My red perm ban indicator light is flashing.

Adieu.

Pan Africanism....rant.

Pan Africanism is an idea born out as a consequences of trans-Atlantic slave trade.
It is not this old, ancient idea that lingered around. It is also riddled with ridiculous and absurd ideas such as to politically unified Africa. It is talking about unifying people on the bases of their skin colour disregarding religion, customs and tradition.

That's like suggesting that Asians should have some kind of global Asian movement because, well Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese...kinda look alike. But at the same time, having some kind of the Asian customs, to which Indians, Pakistanis, Persians and Arabs should somehow integrate into.

I cannot see Egyptians and Moroccans having the same system of government as Kenyans or Zimbabweans, nor do I think that people in Nigeria and people in Somalia or Ethiopia have the same wishes or political aspirations. Not to mention the hundreds of languages and dialects around Africa.

I would find it extremley opressive and quite insulting that someone would group my whole continent into a single political system, single culture and single identity. I would be angry and disgusted with whoever wanted to suppress my language, my history, and customs and condense it into something.

Africa has a very long and very rich history and it started shit loads of years ago. Arab and European slavery are just fragments of that history.

The point of the rant is that skin colour does NOT determine identity.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Cool. I've been to "Africa" and to Africa.

That made me chuckle.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
well you didn't make it clear. all you did was call me a racist or whatever you wrote on that post.

and being looked at as silly by you is what's valueless. from the start i meant racial superiority. not prejudice and and discrimination.

guess you'll just have to watch how you sling the word around the next time so we won't have to go through a waste of time and unnecessary confusion like now.

Don't be silly. I called you something based on a definition of the word and you applied a more limiting and not fitting definition to it. It's like me telling you "Oh, look at that crane over there (bird)" and you saying "There's no construction machine over there"

Obviously the fault in the misunderstanding lies with you. Either purposefully or through ignorance of the full meanings of the word.

Wow, someone made a thread on this.

Originally posted by shiv
I've actually been to "Africa"

forgive me for commenting on a subject I obviously know nothing about.

ciao

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I work with a lot of whites at my job and we get along perfectly fine. In fact I don’t even see them as white, but coworkers.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
French Canadians had links closed with France for 400 years.