Originally posted by valtizSo Aikido isn't a defensive martial art? 😱
and again you show that you know nothing you just embarrass yourself, aikido got nothing to do with defence its channelling and using your enemy movement and energy against him but its not defence at all, now me and anyone who knows something about martial arts can understand you dont know anything you just argue because you like it
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well if the style focuses on counters, controlling the oppenent without causing harm, and is considered to be "harmonious", I think that qualifies as a defensive style.
you think but your opinion isnt valid here because there are formed definitions and any person who train and know martial arts will tell you that aikido is not a defencive style this is a mistake many people make, it doesnt have blocking or avoiding moves all it has is flaw moves that continue the move of your enemy its not a defence form of fighting
listen ... any form of fighting if defencive because it helps you to defend yourself, what i am talking about is that the defence in aikido isnt one to ever recodnize with because its very weak and its based on flawing moves that continue the moves of your enemy which means it cant be even considered as a solid defence , in boxing i can use blocking moves and block my face and body right? in aikido if the enemy attacks too fast you wont be able to do the aikido moves, if 2 enemies attack you at once you cant do crap it only looks nice in practice thats it
Originally posted by valtiz
you think but your opinion isnt valid here because there are formed definitions and any person who train and know martial arts will tell you that aikido is not a defencive style this is a mistake many people make, it doesnt have blocking or avoiding moves all it has is flaw moves that continue the move of your enemy its not a defence form of fighting
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Aikido is all about protecting yourself and your opponent at the same time, man. You do the bare minimum to restrain him/her with out hurting them and focuses on counters and using your opponent's moves against them. That screams "defense".
you both are talking bullcrap and you fail to even explain yourself, as i said any form of fighting is defencive because it meant to "defend" but as a defence its very poor and weak its like saying thai chi is offencive form of fighting because you got some moves there that you can use as an attack but thai chi isnt even focusing on fighting the same thing with aikido you cant call it a defence because its not focusing around a good defence and as i said before... in boxing i block my face my body and its a block its defence, i have avoiding moves thats defence... in aikido there isnt such thing you dont have any defence moves or stance you just use the flawing moves to continue your opponent moves and thats not defence thats using a fork to stub someone
Originally posted by valtiz
you both are talking bullcrap and you fail to even explain yourself, as i said any form of fighting is defencive because it meant to "defend" but as a defence its very poor and weak its like saying thai chi is offencive form of fighting because you got some moves there that you can use as an attack but thai chi isnt even focusing on fighting the same thing with aikido you cant call it a defence because its not focusing around a good defence and as i said before... in boxing i block my face my body and its a block its defence, i have avoiding moves thats defence... in aikido there isnt such thing you dont have any defence moves or stance you just use the flawing moves to continue your opponent moves and thats not defence thats using a fork to stub someone
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Is this real?
Any form of fighting could be considered self-defense , which is completely different from being considered "defensive". Whether or not you believe it to be a good form of defense is irrelevant because at its core, Aikido is a defensive style. I don't know how to break it down to you any more than that. If you attack me, and I use Aikido, it's me being on the defensive, doing the bare minimum to stop you without hurting you. The whole philisophy behind it is based on peace and balance, even extending to your attacker.
It's pretty simple to me.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Whether it is weak or not Aikido is a defensive martial art it screams defense i really don't care for it after seeing a couple classes but it was obvious to me that it was defensive period.
you just fail to understand what i am saying .... in tearms of martial arts a defencive technique is a technique where you got blocking moves that can defend your body and wont leave it open to attacks, the moves in aikido were never meant to do that they were meant to become one with the movement of the other person thats not defence thats something else that people are trying to use as a defence but its not and it doesnt work
Originally posted by JakeTheBank👆 because this guy does Muay Thai he thinks he's some martial arts know it all 😆
...Is this real?
Any form of fighting could be considered self-defense , which is completely different from being considered "defensive". Whether or not you believe it to be a good form of defense is irrelevant because at its core, Aikido is a defensive style. I don't know how to break it down to you any more than that. If you attack me, and I use Aikido, it's me being on the defensive, doing the bare minimum to stop you without hurting you. The whole philisophy behind it is based on peace and balance, even extending to your attacker.
It's pretty simple to me.
Originally posted by iceman24567
👆 because this guy does Muay Thai he thinks he's some martial arts know it all 😆
i already posted you an answer you can learn from it or act like the averege computer idiot and try to make fun
as i said before thats you own definition hell i can tell you that i consider thai chi an offencive form because there are moves that can be used to attack it doesnt mean crap, the definition to defencive form of fighting is a technique that can protect your body and wont leave it open which means no matter what happens but if i make a defence stance and block it will be blocking and wont leave me open ... how i use it or how fast is another thing already but if i do the technique right it will help but in aikido its something else at all its moves that were never meant to defend you in thefirst place its moves that were meant to create INTERACTION AND FLAW WITH OTHER MOVES AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO USE IT AS A DEFENCE BUT FAIL THATS WHY IT CANT BE CONSIDERED AS DEFENCIVE FORM OF FIGHTING BECAUSE IT FAILS TO DEFEND YOU , its like saying dancing is a technique of defence because i can use dancing moves to avoid the opponent
lol, Iceman, theres no reasoning with him. He just said Akido is about using the other guy's attacks and momentum against them, yet its not a defensive art? That doest even make sense. Its impressive how much credibility 1 person can lose in a single paragraph, but Valitz has possibly set the record. He got warmed up with his "I beat up 7 guys" nonsense then really hit the home run with all the idiocy afterwards. I love this guy, I really do.
Originally posted by valtiz
i already posted you an answer you can learn from it or act like the averege computer idiot and try to make funas i said before thats you own definition hell i can tell you that i consider thai chi an offencive form because there are moves that can be used to attack it doesnt mean crap, the definition to defencive form of fighting is a technique that can protect your body and wont leave it open which means no matter what happens but if i make a defence stance and block it will be blocking and wont leave me open ... how i use it or how fast is another thing already but if i do the technique right it will help but in aikido its something else at all its moves that were never meant to defend you in thefirst place its moves that were meant to create INTERACTION AND FLAW WITH OTHER MOVES AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO USE IT AS A DEFENCE BUT FAIL THATS WHY IT CANT BE CONSIDERED AS DEFENCIVE FORM OF FIGHTING BECAUSE IT FAILS TO DEFEND YOU , its like saying dancing is a technique of defence because i can use dancing moves to avoid the opponent
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How can you say Aikido wasn't made to defend you? The whole style is about using grapples, holds, and throws, to deflect incoming attacks. Whether or not you agree with Aikido being useful or good at all is your opinion, but to say it's not even considered a defensive style is just asinine.
Originally posted by redhotrashThank you 👆. Now back on topic.
lol, Iceman, theres no reasoning with him. He just said Akido is about using the other guy's attacks and momentum against them, yet its not a defensive art? That doest even make sense. Its impressive how much credibility 1 person can lose in a single paragraph, but Valitz has possibly set the record. He got warmed up with his "I beat up 7 guys" nonsense then really hit the home run with all the idiocy afterwards. I love this guy, I really do.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Akido is about using the other guy's attacks and momentum against them
so if we judge by your own words then its more of offencive form right? because if i use some kind of move not to defend but to actually cause the other person some kind of damage and use it against him then its offencive already so if we go by personal definitions then its more of an offencive form then defencive right? dumbass
i never said i beat up 7 guys i said me and 2 of my friends which means how much? 3 right? i think you need to do some math classes and fast if you did 1+2 = 1 you are screwed
instead of talking trash trytowrite something usefull ac tually rather then the old trash talk and if you think 3 guys who are trained in fighting cant beat 7 junkie idiots then i guess you are the averege kid who gets bullied around thinking you cant beat anyone or you are the averege white kid in new york street that gets beat up by 2-3 people every morning
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
❌The whole style is about using grapples, holds, and throws
thats the dumbest thing you could post about aikido right now you lost any credibility and showed you know nothing because there isnt a single grapple or throw move in aikido its just about continue your own moves against you and this is where you fall and prove you are making things out of your ass