Originally posted by valtiz
thats the dumbest thing you could post about aikido right now you lost any credibility and showed you know nothing because there isnt a single grapple or throw move in aikido its just about continue your own moves against you and this is where you fall and prove you are making things out of your ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aicHsMC6rxM&feature=related
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lol, How exactly are you going to offensively use someone's momentum against them? Do you have TK powers? Think before you talk, stop before its said.
And yes, its theoretically possible for 3 trained guys to beat 7 untrained, just unlikely, and not you. Why you ask? Because you are very much full of it.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aicHsMC6rxM&feature=related😐
Hmm, looks like a lot of throwing, which cant be true since Valitz said there isnt a single throw in Akido.... this guy clearly doesnt know true Akido...
if you call the moves in that video throwing moves then non of you ever practice a throwing technique in his life, greek wrestling got throwing moves,muay thai got throwing clintches,judo got throwing moves, throwing moves is when you throw your opponent off the ground those are not throwing moves thats using his opponent momentum and make him fall down but not actually throwing him you need to learn what throwing is
here is an example for throwing move
Originally posted by valtiz
and this is where the skills part enter... not no offence or anything but if you never saw those so called "martial artists" win a single street fight then i guess they arent much of a fighters in the first place and if you seen them doing pretty flashy moves it doesnt mean they are martial artists it just means they know acrobatics because a real martial artist is known not because of fleshy pretty moves but because of his skills ands if they get beat up that means they arent fighters and they didnt dedicate enough time to actually learn how to fight and this is the problem today with people who do martial arts they focus to much on having a 6 pack and doing back flips like jackie chan then actually learn how to fightnow my point is simple... if you as a martial artist train in karate or boxing or what ever style it doesnt matter but you train yourself to the art of movement, the art of power and self control, if a person will learn karate properly and he will train he will achieve a better speed, better reflex, better stamina durability and striking force then the average street fighter and when he fights your average bully he will just beat him up because the bully wont be even able to take him down, now i really dont want to sound or look cocky but me and my 2 friends are muay thai fighters and we were in a fight where we took down 7 people with very easy because we moved much faster then them and it took 1 strike to take them down and myself personally when someone was trying to take me down i was fast enough to knee him in the chin and ko him those are the basics of any martial artist the speed reflex and power to take out any ordinary person from the street and i am nothing special just a typical martial art practitioner
Muay Thai is probably the most versatlie stand up fighing style around. It also sounds like you 3 were fighting a bunch of morons if he couldn't even get close enough to clinch, instead of putting his head at waist level where it is in a perfect position to get kneed. I am not saying that all martial arts are retarded or anything. Obviously if someone has some sort of training, he has an advantage, but when people get into fights, they almost always end up on the ground. You were obviously smart enough to keep the fight standing where you had the advantage, had you and your friends been fighting someone who knew how to do a takedown, it might have turned out a little differently... Anyways, I am not against MA in general, I just think cross training is more important that any single MA in and of itself.
Originally posted by Mindset
Your point is irrelevant to what was being discussed.Machida is primarily a striker, and his primary MA is karate.
And? If he didn't cross train do you still think he would be the same fighter? Hell no. None of the fighters use a sinigle style anymore. Georges St. Pierre's main style is karate too, but he hardly ever shows it, because it isn't all that effective out there. He uses more wrestling and BJJ than he does karate.
Originally posted by valtiz
jujitsu is an overated crap that bought the fat and lazy UFC fans that sit there ass at home and think BJJ is god himself
BJJ is great for submissions, but that is about it. Judo is a more well rounded style though, as it teaches some sick throws, as well as some good submissions.