Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
That post is so full of shit I'm not even going to bother with a drawn out response to it. Coming up with this theory about Force energy density and a bunch of other crap is pretty weak.
I'll put it into clearer terms. Nihilus can take out 100 jedi with one attack. I was not questioning whether or not he could take out one lone Jedi, as all it would require is the same FDE and no more total FE. I was questioning how much of the total FE he used on all 100 Jedi would he be capable of on just one Jedi. In other words, how much higher his FDE could be on a smaller scale. Bane, by all available evidence, has a far greater control over the Force than anybody else in the mythos, specifically how capable he is at applying his power on a smaller scale, so it's likely that his FDE on a smaller scale with respect to his FD (maximum scale) would be astronomically higher than that of anybody else. Understand?
Lets get real here. Bane was beaten in his fight with Zannah. If she can take Bane down he obviously isn't as good as some people seem to think.
Prove it.
Nothing Bane did is crazy impressive.
Being able to absorb a planetary level of energy, store it, protect himself internally from it, and then redirect it across an entire planet is one of the mightiest feats we've yet seen in the SW mythos, and miles in both control and power beyond anything Exar Kun has demonstrated. Now, I'm not going to say you're wrong as you're using a relative term but within the confines of this thread, it's an abnormally impressive feat that Exar Kun hasn't come close to matching.
Even if he did have this amazing ability to control ridiculous levels of Force energy on a really small scale he still was unable to defeat Zannah, who has not shown herself to be especially powerful.
Again, you are:
A) Ignoring what Zannah's performance against Bane states about her general level of ability, and forming an evaluation of her ability off of incomplete evidence.
B) Relying on the idea that absence of proof = proof of absence.
And attempting to use those two lines of reasoning to discredit what has already been established about Bane.
Another instance of this is the Duel on Tython. Bane and Zannah defeated five Jedi but just barely were successful. Bane would have been pwned if he had been on his own. Sidious was able to dominate three Jedi in seconds. Vader defeated seven Jedi on his own while still getting used to his suit. Exar's only equal in the entire Order was Ulic. Jacen took on what, four Jedi at once, including Katarn. Bane is not all he is being cracked up to be. Hell Revan kill two Tarentatek's by himself and those normally took a small of group of Jedi to bring down.
This would be a perfectly valid point if we were able to assume a fixed value for the strength of any given "Jedi" and that we could numerically compare them as such, and ignore the fact that Jedi vary in ability and that the only Jedi in the duel on Tython that Bane was shown to have had difficulty with haven't shown any real limitations that would necessarily discredit Bane with respect to the comparisons you just made. Let's also ignore the fact that Bane was displayed as being easily more than a match for any single one of the Jedi and that it's shown that they quite clearly wouldn't have been a threat without Worror's Battle Meditation (in his opening exchanges with both Raskta and Farfalla it's explicitly stated that they wouldn't have survived without the assistance of Worror's Battle Meditation). Let's also ignore the fact that they were described as some of the most powerful jedi of the era; an era of the most martial Jedi Order there's ever been.
Bane is an awesome character and he is really, really strong, but there are plenty of guys who are better than him.
Even if that were the case Exar Kun most certainly wouldn't be one of them.
In fact, I'd argue that Bane is the superior of the two in just about any and every general area. His demonstrated power (planetary), control (subatomic), and knowledge of the Force (all of Sadow's via Freedon Nadd's holocron, all of Revan's knowledge, now all of Andeddu's knowledge) is far greater, he's displayed far greater intelligence (stated to be able to manipulate individuals, organisations and entire governments, he was a visionary that could formulate plans that would come to fruition decades later in a controlled manner, and he set up the complex network of spies and informants that Sidious would eventually use directly to take down the Jedi Order, among many other things), he's displayed a greater learning rate (developing a planetary level of power in a matter of months), more talent with a lightsaber (familiarising himself with the hundreds of thousands if not millions of moves and sequences of the double bladed lightsaber and formulating his own counter measures against each one in, again, a matter of months).
Realistically speaking, it's not even close.