Bane vs Exar Kun

Started by Gideon5 pages

Thul was particularly powerful due to the fact that he was summoning energy from the collective might of the Colony, rather like Mara Jade used to draw energy from Palpatine when she was his Hand.

Nyax, similarly, was able to enhance his skills by drawing upon the power of a Force nexus beneath Coruscant.

Muur seems to be extraordinarily powerful for a Sith Lord; he seemed confident enough to be able to slay Palpatine by using either Vader or Luke for a vessel. But that's not concrete.

Nyax still had his tremendous ability with lightsabers without the Force well. Raynar was drawing off the Nest, but that doesn't make him any less powerful as he did it all the time. Did the Luke Unuthul fight just never happen? I thought I made it clear that I was referring to Raynar during his time with the Killicks.

I'm really surprised over this Murr guy. I'd honestly don't remember ever hearing the name until today.

Nyax's skills with a lightsaber aren't unique; there are numerous relative nobodies who demonstrate or are reputed to have monumental skills as swordsmen (i.e. Cin Drallig, Anoon Bondara, ect).

As far as Raynar is concerned, I thought it should be clarified that the extent of his abilities are not due to his own strength in the Force, but rather like the amulets of the ancient Sith -- he was a beneficiary of something that augmented and focused his power exponentially.

Muur was part of the Legacy comics; he seems pretty badass.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Raynar even gave Luke a run for his money in their fight.

pretty sure that fight was just about the definition of domination. he made raynar look silly while killing the other chick at the same time.

Originally posted by Gideon
Nyax's skills with a lightsaber aren't unique; there are numerous relative nobodies who demonstrate or are reputed to have monumental skills as swordsmen (i.e. Cin Drallig, Anoon Bondara, ect).

As far as Raynar is concerned, I thought it should be clarified that the extent of his abilities are not due to his own strength in the Force, but rather like the amulets of the ancient Sith -- he was a beneficiary of something that augmented and focused his power exponentially.

Muur was part of the Legacy comics; he seems pretty badass.

Regardless of if his skills are unique or not, Luke felt that engaging him in a saber fight was out of the question. That right there speaks volumes.

Fair enough, but I'm taking into account that during the years he was in control of the Killicks he would have access to all of the those powers during a fight. Is an amulet really that different than a lightsaber?

Haven't gotten into those comics and don't really plan to. The Order getting wiped out again is just too many times.

@truejedi: I really wouldn't call that fight the essence of domination or anything like that. He even thought to himself at one point that he was in trouble.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
It is just as much as Zannah's sorcery.

True. I was just saying that Bane did win the fight legiatamly.

Yet he still defeated seven by himself as opposed to Bane who with Zannah, who is effectively his equal, could not defeat five. Also, keep in mind that the best Jedi were actually killed during the Thought Bomb.

Farfalla was clearly a powerful warrior. After all he was a leader of the Jedi during the Battle of Ruusan implying he was both wise and powerful.
As for the weapon master, "Raskta had been part of the campaign on Ruusan. Wielding a blue-bladed lightsaber in each hand, and shunning any form of armor, she was a terrifying figure to behold on the battlefield. Johun vividly remembered her carving great swaths of destruction through the heart of the enemy ranks, leaving a litter of bodies in her wake. It was said that, by the end of the war, as many Sith Lords had fallen under her twin blades as had been killed by the thought bomb." She was thus clearly one of the greatest duelest the order had to offer at that time.


Nyax - He was basically unbeatable, even for Luke, in a duel. The guy had six freakin lightsabers. It's seriously gay, but the guy was really powerful. Read up on when he was killed by Luke, Mara, and Tahiri.

If I remember correctly, Nyax drew most of his power from the Jedi Temple force nexus, it wasn't his own.

Raynar - I'm not referring to him on his own. I'm talking about when he was in control of the Killicks. At that point he did some crazy powerful things. Raynar could impose his will on others to the point even Luke felt it's influence. If I remember correctly, he was able to bend turbolaser blasts away from his ship. Raynar even gave Luke a run for his money in their fight.

Never read Dark nest so I can't comment.

Glentract, even if it's just for following a nice plotline, typical, but nice I would recommend Legacy. It's my third favourite series to date, mainly because i relate to Cade, alot but then there are alot of smiliarites between Legacy and the rest of the saga.

Spoiler:
Cade is a White Mace battling inner darkness and he has a natural affinity for Shatterpoint. He has the ability to heal and bring people back to life , however this brings hi mcloser the Dark Side. Like Luke he apprentices to the Sidious-of-Cade's-time though Cade doesn't fall like Luke. Oh and He's a sarcastic bounty hunter, what more could you want?

Originally posted by ares834
True. I was just saying that Bane did win the fight legiatamly.

I don't know that I would call that a legitimate win. We don't know for certain that he did win. It does seem likely that he did, but it was kinda left up in the air. Furthermore, that's not really a combat ability. How are we supposed to judge the strength of will of two different characters?

Originally posted by ares834
Farfalla was clearly a powerful warrior. After all he was a leader of the Jedi during the Battle of Ruusan implying he was both wise and powerful.
As for the weapon master, "Raskta had been part of the campaign on Ruusan. Wielding a blue-bladed lightsaber in each hand, and shunning any form of armor, she was a terrifying figure to behold on the battlefield. Johun vividly remembered her carving great swaths of destruction through the heart of the enemy ranks, leaving a litter of bodies in her wake. It was said that, by the end of the war, as many Sith Lords had fallen under her twin blades as had been killed by the thought bomb." She was thus clearly one of the greatest duelest the order had to offer at that time.

Lord Hoth was the leader, not Farfalla. Farfalla was the number two guy and he only was there because of his charisma, not combat prowess. Raskta effectively equaled Bane in lightsaber combat, so I don't think that helps Bane's case much. The claim that she killed as many Sith Lords as the thought bomb did sounds like it is subject to exaggeration but I don't know. Anyway, Zannah was the one that killed her.

Originally posted by ares834
If I remember correctly, Nyax drew most of his power from the Jedi Temple force nexus, it wasn't his own.

His ability with lightsaber is more what makes him so dangerous. Even Luke shied away from engaging him. The well of Force energy didn't cause that. He was still capable with the Force away from there, strong enough I think to defend himself from Bane's Force attacks and Force Bane to engage in a duel.

Originally posted by ares834
Never read Dark nest so I can't comment.

They're decent books. Worth the read.

Originally posted by BoratBorat
Yeah lets go by your [b]own words, "They are jedi masters so they MUST be uber".

Your own words murdered you. [/B]

Way to make no sense, as usual.

Originally posted by Gideon
Thul was particularly powerful due to the fact that he was summoning energy from the collective might of the Colony, rather like Mara Jade used to draw energy from Palpatine when she was his Hand.

Nyax, similarly, was able to enhance his skills by drawing upon the power of a Force nexus beneath Coruscant.

Muur seems to be extraordinarily powerful for a Sith Lord; he seemed confident enough to be able to slay Palpatine by using either Vader or Luke for a vessel. But that's not concrete.


Which would make you wonder how powerful the likes of Xoxaan and the Ajunta Pall really are?

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Way to make no sense, as usual.
Good rebuttal 👆

Edited out that torrent link, Weltall; that's illegal. Don't do it.

Originally posted by REXXXX
Edited out that torrent link, WeltallNebaris; that's illegal. Don't do it.

Fixed.

Fixing a socks post, helpful.
*Directed at Rex.

Fixing Rex's post.
Unhelpful.

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No. Everything that I do is helpful. I did fix Rex's post. Fixing Rex's post was helpful.

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Originally posted by Red Nemesis
No. [b]Everything that I do is helpful. I did fix Rex's post. Fixing Rex's post was helpful.

QED [/B]

That post wasn't helpful.

Originally posted by REXXXX
Edited out that torrent link, Weltall; that's illegal. Don't do it.

So people can post rapidshare links to copyrighted comic books in the Webstrips page but torrents are a no...

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Originally posted by mattatom
[b]That post wasn't helpful. [/B]

This could go on forever.

Everything I do is helpful. I did compose that post. That post was helpful.

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Originally posted by Autokrat
So people can post rapidshare links to copyrighted comic books in the Webstrips page but torrents are a no...

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C'mon Nemesis, you're never really helpful... that's my bit.

But yeah, Rex, I don't know why you just don't ban the female like you always do.

Be quiet.