Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I guess everything's possible as long as they can prove it to the judges. At least that's what I've gathered from Bats and TheKhan.I'm not against ring duplication, just providing certain characters with them. In example giving Henshaw and Superman rings.
Do you honestly think we could get everyone to agree on who can and who cannot have powerups like that? I think we have to be consistent with the rules; either everyone can have a similar powerup or no one can.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I guess everything's possible as long as they can prove it to the judges. At least that's what I've gathered from Bats and TheKhan.I'm not against ring duplication, just providing certain characters with them. In example giving Henshaw and Superman rings.
I thought vice versa like situation of giving Hal Jordan AS Supes powers in the prep. Is that legal or not?
Originally posted by TheKahn
Do you honestly think we could get everyone to agree on who can and who cannot have powerups like that? I think we have to be consistent with the rules; either everyone can have a similar powerup or no one can.
Originally posted by TheKahnWhen you have an upper limit for power meshing, then it doesn't matter who agrees on what- you and fatnude get to call what breaches the power cap or not.
Do you honestly think we could get everyone to agree on who can and who cannot have powerups like that? I think we have to be consistent with the rules; either everyone can have a similar powerup or no one can.
Logically, if the power meshing cap is the same limit as the draft cap, then what isn't allowed for one probably shouldn't be allowed for the other, but it's your tournament.
Being consistent with what breaches the limit of "high herald" would probably lead to less arguing over whether plans are legal or not, when teams inevitably try to mesh to the trans level. Otherwise giving "wiggle room" will lead to much confusion over what breaches the meshing cap and what doesn't.
Just my two cents.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeI'm skeptical of how well that will hold up
It says in the rules that we're not supposed to put 'em above the high herald limit in power meshing, so let's not 🙂
when you're meshing top tier heralds....it seems inevitable and almost unavoidable that you're end up creating amalgams that surpass the herald level and tiptoe to the skyfather level...and I think that would be true for virtually every team.
we shall see.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm skeptical of how well that will hold upwhen you're meshing top tier heralds....it seems inevitable and almost unavoidable that you're end up creating amalgams that surpass the herald level and tiptoe to the skyfather level...and I think that would be true for virtually every team.
we shall see.
Yes, that's the question that has come up. Batdude and I are discussing this problem at the moment. Expect an answer ASAP, there might be a rule change or additional rules put in place to clear up any confusion.
Originally posted by Starscream M
that would be an effective solution...except it would prob require a complete redraft or else it would be unfair as many teams prob drafted with power meshing strategies in mind.
Yes, it would (and also makes characters like Zee and Shaman huge liability for blitz tactics, to avoid speedblitz nonsence let's allow "prep is for shielding, information sharing and maybe mindlinking and stuff like that".
That would assume less redrafting and less of blitzfests.
Originally posted by Digi
The easy solution is to get rid of prep. No meshing, pure team debating.😉
Originally posted by Starscream M
that would be an effective solution...except it would prob require a complete redraft or else it would be unfair as many teams prob drafted with power meshing strategies in mind.
Nothing is easy at this point. 😐
There are a few options on the table at the moment. We'll let everyone know what the situation is as soon as we can.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Nothing is easy at this point. 😐There are a few options on the table at the moment. We'll let everyone know what the situation is as soon as we can.
I proposed my version. And if the big fuss is made about ring duplication...I've reminded that power batteries are not allowed, meaning that multiple rings would still be as powerful as one ring...basically dividing one ring (and its charge) into multiple parts. Those lesser rings won't nessesary push anyone into >>>top tier herald class.
Outright power copying is banned, and DNA alteration needs to be proven.
Either that or limit prep to "shielding+mindlinking" to avoid any kind of blitz abuse.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
I proposed my version. And if the big fuss is made about ring duplication...I've reminded that power batteries are not allowed, meaning that multiple rings would still be as powerful as one ring...basically dividing one ring (and its charge) into multiple parts. Those lesser rings won't nessesary push anyone into >>>top tier herald class.Outright power copying is banned, and DNA alteration needs to be proven.
Either that or limit prep to "shielding+mindlinking" to avoid any kind of blitz abuse.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I guess it might as well be up to the Judges to determine if the power-meshing puts one of the characters above the high herald limit. The high herald limit is fairly ambiguous anyways. Just a suggestion of course.
Those are good suggestions. mhmm