Captain America vs Elektra

Started by abhilegend16 pages
abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by carver9
It's not a coloring error. You're making excuses. Captain is beside him and punch him in the face, not in front of him. RS then reach in his pocket and grab his gun "while Cap is beside him" and shoot at his target. Cap races over and stop the bullets.

Again, the Spiderman showing isn't just a strength ft. It's a speed ft.


Of course it is, a page later Cap isn't able to react to a glass cage dropping on him.

Must be faster than bullet cage lol.

Cap was in front of Skull, here's two of them fighting face to face.


How's it a speed feat? He didn't rush over and stop the bullet.

carver9 Senior Member

All you did was post something I already posted. You discredited nothing.

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by abhilegend
How? Captain America has no bullet timing feats.
Yes he does, although I still think she's marginally faster.

I think his shield does more for him than the sai do for her. Granted her sai have some tech upgrades now but I don't think it would give the edge over a full potential Cap.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by carver9
All you did was post something I already posted. You discredited nothing.

Of course I did.
Originally posted by Smurph
Yes he does, although I still think she's marginally faster.

I think his shield does more for him than the sai do for her. Granted her sai have some tech upgrades now but I don't think it would give the edge over a full potential Cap.


Post all those bullet timing feats for Cap then.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Mind you, Cap's running speed at full sprint is a mile per minute.

http://i.imgur.com/soLu6KA.jpg

He's as fast as a moving car at almost 100 kph. Not bad but certainly nowhere near a bullet speed.

Smurph tu quoqumber

Besides the one that you posted with Red Skull?

https://imgur.com/kVBwhGB

https://imgur.com/7qIkiJt

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mind you, Cap's running speed at full sprint is a mile per minute.

http://i.imgur.com/soLu6KA.jpg

He's as fast as a moving car at almost 100 kph. Not bad but certainly nowhere near a bullet speed.

Comics have never equated reflex speed with sprinting speed. It's a false standard that you've only just started inflating. Nobody agrees with you.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
Besides the one that you posted with Red Skull?

https://imgur.com/kVBwhGB

https://imgur.com/7qIkiJt


None of these show bullet timings and neither did Skull showing.
Originally posted by Smurph
Comics have never equated reflex speed with sprinting speed. It's a false standard that you've only just started inflating. Nobody agrees with you.

Basis on what? Captain America can run at 100 kph but move at supersonic speed somehow?

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by abhilegend
None of these show bullet timings and neither did Skull showing.
Basis on what? Captain America can run at 100 kph but move at supersonic speed somehow?
The first he dodges the bullet after it's fired.

The second he raises his shield between the bullets being fired and hitting him.

The Skull feat, you see the shield beside Skull as he fires, and then you see Cap in front of the target before the bullets hit. I honestly think that's the one that comes closest to PIS, if you want to argue about that.

But anyways, I think Cap is in the bullet timing ballpark for sure.

Your thing about sprinting speed is nonsense and your whining doesn't make it less nonsense.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans
Originally posted by Smurph
The first he dodges the bullet after it's fired.

Aim dodging.

The second he raises his shield between the bullets being fired and hitting him.

Aim blocking.

The Skull feat, you see the shield beside Skull as he fires, and then you see Cap in front of the target before the bullets hit. I honestly think that's the one that comes closest to PIS, if you want to argue about that.

Cap was in front of Skull and aim blocked the bullets. The shield is coloring error.

But anyways, I think Cap is in the bullet timing ballpark for sure.

Without any such feats, why am I not surprised.

Your thing about sprinting speed is nonsense and your whining doesn't make it less nonsense.

I accept your concession that Cap somehow moving supersonic but can't sprint past 100 kph is nonsense and you have no rebuttal.

Smurph tu quoqumber

lol, none of that makes sense. Your bad faith reading of each page just makes Batman look worse.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
lol, none of that makes sense. Your bad faith reading of each page just makes Batman look worse.

Batman isn't here, provide Supersonic speed feats for Elektra or Cap. I'm not choosy tbh.

Smurph tu quoqumber

Well as you just demonstrated, you'll deny the very image on the page, which means your demands for feats aren't worth responding to.

It's not aim dodging if he dodges while the bullet is in midair. It's not aim blocking if he blocks after the bullet is fired.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
Well as you just demonstrated, you'll deny the very image on the page, which means your demands for feats aren't worth responding to.

It's not aim dodging if he dodges while the bullet is in midair. It's not aim blocking if he blocks after the bullet is fired.


He's reacting to the muzzle flash in both scenes, bullets aren't shown in midair in either scans lol.

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's reacting to the muzzle flash in both scenes, bullets aren't shown in midair in either scans lol.
Abhi lol

...if he's reacting to the muzzle flash then he's not aim dodging

Do you hear yourself?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
Abhi lol

...if he's reacting to the muzzle flash then he's not aim dodging

Do you hear yourself?


Of course he is, he's predicting the bullet path and dodging or blocking.

Where are those mid air bullets you claimed?

Smurph tu quoqumber

Reacting to muzzle fire means you're reacting after the trigger has been pulled. The bullet is leaving the chamber.

I suppose on the margin of things it just adds to Elektra being slightly faster... but as I said, Cap's in the ballpark.

I took the motion lines in the first scan to be the bullet leaving the gun, not just muzzle flare, but I take your point that it could be the flash. I don't think it changes the ballpark of the feat by any means though.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
Reacting to muzzle fire means you're reacting after the trigger has been pulled. The bullet is leaving the chamber.

I suppose on the margin of things it just adds to Elektra being slightly faster... but as I said, Cap's in the ballpark.

I took the motion lines in the first scan to be the bullet leaving the gun, not just muzzle flare, but I take your point that it could be the flash. I don't think it changes the ballpark of the feat by any means though.


Batman has done that, dodging bullets after muzzle flash.

Deflects multiple bullets with a chain.

https://imgur.com/Fcv9GL1

Deflects bullets

https://imgur.com/1mYGLpj

Deflects bullets from point blank range

https://imgur.com/a/im7O5

Dodges bullets from point blank range

https://imgur.com/a/ZdPKH

Just a few of his speed feats.

Smurph tu quoqumber

I thought this wasn't about Batman? You just told me he's not in this thread...

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
I thought this wasn't about Batman? You just told me he's not in this thread...

I'm just wondering how Cap is in the ballpark of Elektra for doing the same thing Batman does but in his case Elektra is clearly faster than Batman lol.

As I said, double standards ahoy.