Captain America vs Elektra

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Originally posted by King Castle
no type of amp whatsoever for elektra she gets pawned by cap..

she held her own against wolverine due to cis on logan's behalf never wanting to injure her or even being in the right mindset like he is more annoyed and his heart not even in it.

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care to tell me where she actually beat logan and not just annoy him or slow him down?

when she went to retrain logan, logan was able to out react her and house the blade he had into its sheath in elektras back.. he walked away and told her he didnt want to play with her or whatever iirc. walking off nonchalantly..

she was in the middle of an attack when logan pulled the maneuver off.

Originally posted by King Castle
no type of amp whatsoever for elektra she gets pawned by cap..

she held her own against wolverine due to cis on logan's behalf never wanting to injure her or even being in the right mindset like he is more annoyed and his heart not even in it.

I actually pretty much agree with you........unsettling 😘 😆

all, except for the "pawned" part.

Originally posted by King Castle
care to tell me where she actually beat logan and not just annoy him or slow him down?

when she went to retrain logan, logan was able to out react her and house the blade he had into its sheath in elektras back.. he walked away and told her he didnt want to play with her or whatever iirc. walking off nonchalantly..

she was in the middle of an attack when logan pulled the maneuver off.

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The first time they fought... and Logan got stabbed in the heart and left for dead.

i argue it even being canon... but, whatever.. in the enemy of the state she stated she had to let the shield agents distract him otherwise she wouldnt get a second chance to put him down.. she knew she couldnt beat him in the mindset he was in.. 😬

besides how often is a single heart stab ever really stopped logan?

Originally posted by jinzin
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The first time they fought... and Logan got stabbed in the heart and left for dead.


seems like a pretty low showing for Wolverine's HF/pain tolerance😬

Also, hasn't Elektra specifically stated that it is CIS that lets her beat logan(or was that comic non-canon?)

Originally posted by King Castle
i argue it even being canon... but, whatever.. in the enemy of the state she stated she had to let the shield agents distract him otherwise she wouldnt get a second chance to put him down.. she knew she couldnt beat him in the mindset he was in.. 😬

besides how often is a single heart stab ever really stopped logan?

Well you have to remember that it was pretty close to after the Weapon X expirement. I'd say a heart stab on Logan in the early run of of his comics career would be more than enough to drop him. 😬

Finally, I'd also say that Elektra has had Logan on the defensive in not one, not two, but EVERY fight they've had. You can blame Wolverine's mindset but the only time that was ever an attribution to the result was in the nemesis fight WHILE Elektra was mocking Wolverine, and it's something Wolverine didn't immediately support (not that it wasn't true at the moment but all the same). Likewise she may have used the Shield agents to put Logan at a disadvantage in EOTS but she resecured that advantage mid-fight without them just as well. Sorry but Logan has never looked the better of the two in their encounters... He of course WOULD win any fight they have now but that's due to his HF and durability/damage soak, not because he's more skilled, or has a better physicality.

You want to discard the one time they fought not knowing one another because it suits you? No hair off my back.

i'd kill you if i could.. 😬

logan has superhuman physical attributes all across the board his MA knowledge is leaps in bounds above elektra's MA.. their is no reason she should be able to beat logan who is actively fighting at his best MA and not just brawling and tanking.. elektra can only win if she uses chi amps and logan is massively depowered.

logan in a forum fight should still beat beat her at his best MA lvl.

The Redeemer isn't canon. It exists in a continuity black hole where Wolverine has just escaped Weapon X and yet Elektra is an active assassin. It is simultaniously pre Wolverine joining the X-Men and post Elektra's resurection by the Hand.

does elektra have her telepathy in this fight ?

More importantly, does Elektra ever have and/or use telepathy in fights with anyone worth mentioning(non-cannon fodder, etc)?

Originally posted by King Castle
i'd kill you if i could.. 😬

logan has superhuman physical attributes all across the board his MA knowledge is leaps in bounds above elektra's MA.. their is no reason she should be able to beat logan who is actively fighting at his best MA and not just brawling and tanking.. elektra can only win if she uses chi amps and logan is massively depowered.

logan in a forum fight should still beat beat her at his best MA lvl.

Elektra can make herself bullet proof, read minds, make illusions and use a silent scream.... how the hell did you concluded that Logan's MA is "leaps and bounds" better?

Elektra can't win period, but it has nothing to do with MA knowledge on either side, nor physical prowess... 😬
She'll lose everytime because of Wolverine's HF plain and simple.

In a straight point match she'd probably beat Logan. It's a simple matter of stylistic matchups between them, he's not well suited to her point wise.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Redeemer isn't canon. It exists in a continuity black hole where Wolverine has just escaped Weapon X and yet Elektra is an active assassin. It is simultaniously pre Wolverine joining the X-Men and post Elektra's resurection by the Hand.
I'm aware of the hiccup but I thought it was.. rucca's (?) intention for it to be canon.... It's just that he's just an asshat who thinks among other things that you can break Logan's neck. 😐

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here you go.

DAMN

Thats one of the most amazing things i've ever seen Cap do.

Cap 8-9/10

I was just flipping through some old Thor issues and this stuck out to me.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors1.jpg

Look at the third panel closely. The ricochet.

Did the bullet just bounce off the wall and on to Cap's neck/back?

It seems like it. That would be a ridiculous durability feat.

doesn't look like a bullet would ricochet from that angle, especially since they usually break or flatten out in real life if they don't simply embed themselves in the object

*shrugs*

Originally posted by psycho gundam
doesn't look like a bullet would ricochet from that angle, especially since they usually break or flatten out in real life if they don't simply embed themselves in the object

*shrugs*

Bullet's don't always work that way in comics. Did you see what Bullseye did in his last mini using ricocheting bullets?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I was just flipping through some old Thor issues and this stuck out to me.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors1.jpg

Look at the third panel closely. The ricochet.

Did the bullet just bounce off the wall and on to Cap's neck/back?

It seems like it. That would be a ridiculous durability feat.

uhhh. that's Exactly what's happening there. It's why Cap's down in the next panel, "stunned" according to Thor and why there's that Twak sound effect.... ****in badass.

Originally posted by King Castle
no type of amp whatsoever for elektra she gets pawned by cap..

she held her own against wolverine due to cis on logan's behalf never wanting to injure her or even being in the right mindset like he is more annoyed and his heart not even in it.

Elektra is peak human.