KOTOR 2- Good?

Started by Slash_KMC4 pages

Somehow, I'm starting to doubt that Neb is actually a girl.

Originally posted by Weltall
You're entitled to your incorrect opinion but just about any notable JRPG ass rapes Mass Effect. The #1 spot would have to belong to Star Ocean: Till the End of Time.

There is no 'incorrect' or 'correct' opinion concerning this matter.

However, I'm curious... Who is the one who decides whether my opinion is 'correct' or not? You? That's not how it works.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
However, I'm curious... Who is the one who decides whether my opinion is 'correct' or not?

You're looking at her. Reported btw.

Reported? You're kidding, right?

Staying on topic, IMO, KOTOR 2 was a better game than most make of it. Just because it had an incomplete story it doesn't mean it wasn't a good game. The fact that the story was incomplete doesn't make it a bad story, the character development was excellent and the gameplay was enjoyable.

Most of the dislike for KotOR 2 comes from the fact that IT DIDNT HAVE AN ENDING!!!!

It was a broken game that was rushed out to market before it was completed. What do you expect? I mean seriously, how many things were promised that didn't happen? HK-50 factory anyone? We were promised Revan would be in the game, not an image of him on Korriban. Why were the poster characters for the game only in it for about an hour collectively? Why was the game always talking about how powerful Nihilus was, but the battle could be won in your sleep? Where was the promised "You are Darth Revan" style twist? And where the hell was the ending?

Are you sure Revan's appearence was promised?

It was. Kotor 2 sucked honestly. Bioware should have handled the sequel. But i am done with star wars.

Originally posted by Tsal Can
Are you sure Revan's appearence was promised?

It was promised, I'll find the source later hopefully (lot of old news to look through). Though I do remember talking to a friend of mine who is an enormous fan of Kotor about the time you battle the fake Revan in the cave on Korriban, and him stating that that does not count as an apparence of Revan. But, I'll see If I can find the article from years ago talking about it.

Originally posted by BoratBorat
It was. Kotor 2 sucked honestly. Bioware should have handled the sequel. But i am done with star wars.

Kotor would've done fine withoug a sequel, but Lucas Arts wanted to make a sequel so as to make more money off the Kotor name. Bioware rarely does sequels to their own games (infact the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Mass Effect 2) and so Kotor 2 was done by Obsidian. I used to condemn Obsidian for the travesty of Kotor 2, but now I realise it is Lucas Arts' fault. LA pushed for the game to be brought out too early, and as a result, it was brought out unfinished. Had Obsidian had the time to do what they wanted with the game, it could have very well been as good as the original.

When it comes down to it though, I have to say the world would have been better off without Kotor 2. I would prefer no sequel to one that was rushed to the market before it was finished... In the end, Kotor 2 is an unfinished game, and I will not support unfinished games being rushed off to market... Just think, if they had the time to finish Kotor 2, we may have had Kotor 3 by now, and perhaps been on the way to Kotor 4... You never know...

Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Kotor would've done fine withoug a sequel, but Lucas Arts wanted to make a sequel so as to make more money off the Kotor name. Bioware rarely does sequels to their own games (infact the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Mass Effect 2) and so Kotor 2 was done by Obsidian. I used to condemn Obsidian for the travesty of Kotor 2, but now I realise it is Lucas Arts' fault. LA pushed for the game to be brought out too early, and as a result, it was brought out unfinished. Had Obsidian had the time to do what they wanted with the game, it could have very well been as good as the original.

When it comes down to it though, I have to say the world would have been better off without Kotor 2. I would prefer no sequel to one that was rushed to the market before it was finished... In the end, Kotor 2 is an unfinished game, and I will not support unfinished games being rushed off to market... Just think, if they had the time to finish Kotor 2, we may have had Kotor 3 by now, and perhaps been on the way to Kotor 4... You never know...

Don't forget bioware is doing dragon age origins: awakening, a sequel to DAO.

But yeah kotor 2 was rushed.

Awakening is more of an Expansion, not a full-fleged sequel. I think it should go in with things like Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark. However, in contrast, Neverwinter Nights 2 (the full-fleged sequel) was created by Obsidian, rather than Bioware.

Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
It was promised, I'll find the source later hopefully (lot of old news to look through). Though I do remember talking to a friend of mine who is an enormous fan of Kotor about the time you battle the fake Revan in the cave on Korriban, and him stating that that does not count as an apparence of Revan. But, I'll see If I can find the article from years ago talking about it.

Im pretty sure that the only thing about Revan to make an appearance was his fate, I still have the EGM. Here are some scans though...

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/160743-new-kotor-2-scans/page__pid__2081616__mode__threaded

Well, even at that, his fate was NOT revealed. And even at that, I still remember the promise of an apperance of Revan.

That's largely because a lot of their games are tied to franchises that they don't own the rights to (Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights - Dungeons and Dragons, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - Star Wars, Sonic: Dark Brotherhood - Sonic). Dragon Age, Jade Empire, and Mass Effect are the only RPGs that they own the rights to.

Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Well, even at that, his fate was NOT revealed. And even at that, I still remember the promise of an apperance of Revan.

Im pretty sure "going off to the unknown regions to fight the true Sith" qualifies.

Yeah it really built up expectations that Revan would be vital in a third game.

Shattered dreams...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah it really built up expectations that Revan would be vital in a third game.

Shattered dreams...

I think that game was one of the biggest disapointments I have ever encountered in my many years of gaming. And the fact that Kotor 3 has yet to emerge from the ooze of rumor saddens me greatly.

Kotor could have been a great game... the seeds of greatness are there, but the 1 year timeline wouldn't allow it.