Superman Vs Thor vs SS vs Marvel Who's more Durable

Originally posted by RealityWarper
You can't use a measurement of speed to qualify a reaction time, that's incorrect

Or he anticipated it.

He began to fly before all of this.
Superman has already inverted his position and flew away before the explosion of the supernova...

[B]The point of the topic is to say if Superman can survive a Supernova or not.

The answer is no.

Superman would be toasted by a Supernova.
[/B]

Something is flying at him at the speed of light. AFTER an explosion which was 50x the Kepler supernova.

He anticipated it? By flying backwards? Where does it say he anticipated it?

Because it looked like he tanked the explosion (a durability feat), outreacted the EM wave (a FTL reaction feat) and flew away from the rads (a light speed travelling feat at least).

Whilst severely weakened by red sun radiation.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
You mean the post Abhilegend remarked about context. There is a vast difference.

It's not my fault he made it painfully easy to use his own words against him.

Context shouldn't be used by him, though as semantics is something he's flirting with when trying to divorce "tanking" with "surfing" as if making contact with Surfer's being isn't happening

I cited the context. I feel you're trying to justify leaving it out.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
[B]Something is flying at him at the speed of light. AFTER an explosion which was 50x the Kepler supernova.

Yeah.

He anticipated it? By flying backwards? Where does it say he anticipated it?

Where does it say that he tanked it ?

Is that a form of double standards or ?

Because it looked like he tanked the explosion (a durability feat), outreacted the EM wave (a FTL reaction feat) and flew away from the rads (a light speed travelling feat at least).

It looked like he was in pain because of the red sun radiations he was bathing in.

Whilst severely weakened by red sun radiation.

We know that his powers were weakened and that slowed him.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I cited the context. I feel you're trying to justify leaving it out.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Yeah.

Where does it say that he tanked it ?

Is that a form of double standards or ?

It looked like he was in pain because of the red sun radiations he was bathing in.

We know that his powers were weakened and that slowed him.

Not double standards.

There's no mention of him anticipating it. The art does not support him anticipating it, unless he routinely flies backwards. Superman does not have anticipatory powers.

There's no mention of him tanking it, but the art supports it, and he has durability powers.

On top of that, bombs don't just release EMs and rads. They release a physical shockwave.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not double standards.

If you say so. 😛

There's no mention of him anticipating it.

There is no mention of him tanking it neither.

The art does not support him anticipating it,

That's right. The art doesn't support Superman tanking it neither.

unless he routinely flies backwards. Superman does not have anticipatory powers.

True, however if he was projected by the explosion his position should inverted in the panel you pretend he tanked the shockwave.

There is no reason to think that the explosion would have inverted his initial position.

He would have been ejected with his face in front of the explosion.

There's no mention of him tanking it, but the art supports it,

That's debatable.

and he has durability powers.

Indeed.

On top of that, bombs don't just release EMs and rads. They release a physical shockwave.

Right, which doesn't moves at lightspeed.

Supes wasn't just near ground zero.

He *was* ground zero, since he was carrying the bomb.

That makes the durability feat at the maximum possible level it could be at. A 50x kepler supernova detonation at point blank range.

For example, if you are on a planet and it blows up and you survive, do you have planet level durability for surviving? No. Not even close. You only received a tiny piece of the pie, equal to the cross-section of your body that the explosion touches.

Supes on the other hand took an explosion 50x bigger than kepler's supernova at point blank. And that's just its size. It's actual power should be much greater than 50x. Take an explosion and make it twice as big, and it becomes 8 times as powerful. Inverse cube law. So the power Supes is taking at point blank range is actually 50x50x50 of kepler's supernova.

Think of the sun for example. It's over 100 times bigger than the Earth. Which means its big enough to hold over 1 million Earths inside of it. (100x100x100).

http://www.hiroshima-remembered.com...ima/page14.html

The Story of Hiroshima
Hibakusha Stories

First-hand accounts from survivors best convey the bomb’s impact on Hiroshima’s people. The following "Voice of Hibakusha" eyewitness accounts of the bombing of Hiroshima are from the program HIROSHIMA WITNESS produced by the Hiroshima Peace Cultural Center and NHK, the public broadcasting company of Japan.

Eiko Taoka, then 21, was one of nearly 100 passengers said to have been on board a streetcar that had left Hiroshima Station at a little after 8:00 a.m. and was in a Hatchobori area, 750 m from ground zero, when the bomb fell.

Taoka was heading for Funairi with her one year old son to secure wagon in preparation for her move out of the building which was to be evacuated. At 8:15, as the streetcar approached Hatchobori Station, an intense flash and blast engulfed the car, instantly setting it on fire. Taoka’s son died of radiation sickness on August 28. The survival of only ten people on the streetcar have been confirmed to date.

Real-life examples are better than fan-fictions I guess. 🙁

Originally posted by RealityWarper
If you say so. 😛

There is no mention of him tanking it neither.

That's right. The art doesn't support Superman tanking it neither.

True, however if he was projected by the explosion his position should inverted in the panel you pretend he tanked the shockwave.

There is no reason to think that the explosion would have inverted his initial position.

[B]He would have been ejected with his face in front of the explosion.

That's debatable.

Indeed.

Right, which doesn't moves at lightspeed. [/B]

His position IS inverted? He's facing it, then is hurled backwards.

But as we both agree, he didn't fly under his own power backwards.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Real-life examples are better than fan-fictions I guess. 🙁

What is the point of the Hiroshima bomb story?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His position IS inverted? He's facing it, then is hurled backwards.

But as we both agree, he didn't fly under his own power backwards.

I've never said that he was hurled backwards.

Superman inverted his position and began to fly away. That's my point.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What is the point of the Hiroshima bomb story?

That being near a nuclear explosion (750 m) doesn't translate in an automatic death for an human being.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I've never said that he was hurled backwards.

Superman inverted his position and began to fly away. That's my point.

That being near a nuclear explosion (750 m) doesn't translate in an automatic death for an human being.

Before the EM wave (at the speed of light) touched him? So....FTL reactions (as we both agree, there is nothing to support him anticipating it). So Superman has FTL reactions, as he managed to invert and begun to fly away before light speed waves hit him.

Whilst his powers are evaporating like the morning dew.

The scans show him facing it, then going backwards, then flying away. The going backwards is not him flying, as we both agreed.

750m, whilst in a steel container, from the Hiroshima bomb, is not quite the same as holding it whilst a supernova explodes....much less Kepler's, MUCH less 50x that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Before the EM wave (at the speed of light) touched him?

The EM wave didn't touch him, according to the caption the EM wave was "rushing towards him at the speed of light". There is no mention of Superman being touched by the wave or by the ball of radiation behind it (which was moving at the same speed).

Superman doesn't have the ability to make an instant acceleration at the speed of light so it's obvious that he was acceleration until he reaches the speed of light before the explosion occurred.

So....FTL reactions (as we both agree, there is nothing to support him anticipating it).

Please don't use a measurement of speed to calculate a reaction time. My eyes are burning.

I didn't agree with you.

Superman knew that he was carrying a bomb that will explode in the center of the Supernova. That let him plenty of time to think about the detonation = anticipating the explosion.

So Superman has FTL reactions, as he managed to invert and begun to fly away before light speed waves hit him.

Nope.

He inverted his position before the explosion happened and began to fly away.

Whilst his powers are evaporating like the morning dew.

He was slower.

The scans show him facing it, then going backwards, then flying away.

He had several seconds to do it before the explosion happened.

The going backwards is not him flying, as we both agreed.

I didn't agree on this.

750m, whilst in a steel container, from the Hiroshima bomb, is not quite the same as holding it whilst a supernova explodes....much less Kepler's, MUCH less 50x that.

The Hiroshima destroyed everything from the Ground Zero to 1,6 km.

Superman avoided the effects of the Supernova.

Let's agree to disagree.

Why do people even reply to Reality warper? Dude just makes shit up everytime.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Superman never tanked the energy of 50 supernovas.

He outraced the explosion to avoid being killed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Of course not but the scans that decimate abhi's lies always sting him.

My pleasure.

I think that exposing Abhi's lies is the first step in every debates.
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There was also no mention that superman was superman, or that superman has hands and legs.

We see it on panel but Im sure all that is made up too. 😆

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Supes wasn't just near ground zero.

He *was* ground zero, since he was carrying the bomb.

That makes the durability feat at the maximum possible level it could be at. A 50x kepler supernova detonation at point blank range.

For example, if you are on a planet and it blows up and you survive, do you have planet level durability for surviving? No. Not even close. You only received a tiny piece of the pie, equal to the cross-section of your body that the explosion touches.

Supes on the other hand took an explosion 50x bigger than kepler's supernova at point blank. And that's just its size. It's actual power should be much greater than 50x. Take an explosion and make it twice as big, and it becomes 8 times as powerful. Inverse cube law. So the power Supes is taking at point blank range is actually 50x50x50 of kepler's supernova.

Think of the sun for example. It's over 100 times bigger than the Earth. Which means its big enough to hold over 1 million Earths inside of it. (100x100x100).

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Superman threads always attrack the trolls like reality warper, that says sentry is multiversal and that flash doesn't fight at superspeed.

What a moron!