Superman Vs Thor vs SS vs Marvel Who's more Durable

Originally posted by quanchi112
So basically you pick and choose which feats count and which don't. That's called being biased.

You do the same. Always.

But anyway, I was trying to be consistent to popular opinion. You are the hypocrite since you said that Thor is more powerful than SS and that he should win a majority against him. Well if this is your opinion then it would contradict certain feats by SS now wouldn't it?

Originally posted by h1a8
You do the same. Always.

But anyway, I was trying to be consistent to popular opinion. You are the hypocrite since you said that Thor is more powerful than SS and that he should win a majority against him. Well if this is your opinion then it would contradict certain feats by SS now wouldn't it?

Of course you wouldn't know as these things have taken place in the wonderful world of comics not some outdated handbook.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has shown himself to be far more powerful than the Surfer in combat as well as in other feats of power. 🙂

Of course you wouldn't know as these things have taken place in the wonderful world of comics not some outdated handbook.

Well then, SS surviving a ground zero nova is PIS unless it is only blast damage.

But the majority of the weight on the result of a comic fight is usually based off popularity. A comic company is in business to make money. Remember that.

One cosmic bolt can hold Thor against his hammer for a small moment. Thor becomes a sitting duck for a moment. SS can do anything he wants to Thor. In a battle, I see SS always winning against Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not quite doing that. What I was doing was comparing a supernova to Thor's hits and going by popular opinion. If thor affecting surfer with a hammer strike is a low showing and thus PIS then SS should beat Thor 10/10. But most people don't think so. Actually, a slight majority may give thor the edge. Me personally, I believe SS can beat Thor 8-9/10.

I don't think you understand what even happened in those fights. Thor didn't merely affect Surfer with hammerstrikes... he almost took his head off with hammerstrikes. And you're logic isn't right anyway. How does that equate into a 10/10 for Surfer if it's PIS?

BTW, most people actually think the entire arc was PIS... if you want to get into the popular opinion portion.

How ever did this become a Surfer vs Thor power fight debate??

As for durability, One of Surfer's top durability feat was withstanding the pounding he recieved from Tenebrous and Aegis as well as (for a short moment) survive manipulating energy that can killed them (the crunch). 2 Galactus level beings. The thing is with the Surfer, his durability feats fluctuate a LOT from being KO'd by a laser pistol to the back of the head to being able to soak an entire alien battle fleet's main guns focus firing on him without so much as being annoyed by it (this happened in the issue with the Impossible Man). I believe this has a lot to do with how mch PC he uses to amp his durability but I believe self-amps (using his own power) count for any kind of feat here.

IMO, I'd say the Surfer is the more durable.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
How ever did this become a Surfer vs Thor power fight debate??
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Superman.

Originally posted by Blanket
Thor's hits (which btw, have done more damage than Supernovas...

1: SS
2: Supes
3: Thor

Not quite sure where CM fits in but probably closer to Supes than SS

Originally posted by h1a8
Well then, SS surviving a ground zero nova is PIS unless it is only blast damage.

But the majority of the weight on the result of a comic fight is usually based off popularity. A comic company is in business to make money. Remember that.

One cosmic bolt can hold Thor against his hammer for a small moment. Thor becomes a sitting duck for a moment. SS can do anything he wants to Thor. In a battle, I see SS always winning against Thor.

Thor is more powerful than the Surfer, has stomped him in combat, and has higher power feats so what aren't you getting?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
How ever did this become a Surfer vs Thor power fight debate??

As for durability, One of Surfer's top durability feat was withstanding the pounding he recieved from Tenebrous and Aegis as well as (for a short moment) survive manipulating energy that can killed them (the crunch). 2 Galactus level beings. The thing is with the Surfer, his durability feats fluctuate a LOT from being KO'd by a laser pistol to the back of the head to being able to soak an entire alien battle fleet's main guns focus firing on him without so much as being annoyed by it (this happened in the issue with the Impossible Man). I believe this has a lot to do with how mch PC he uses to amp his durability but I believe self-amps (using his own power) count for any kind of feat here.

IMO, I'd say the Surfer is the more durable.

Actually friend i have to disagree with u there. Surfers durability is usually portrayed rather consistently. Indeed he does have low feats like the laser pistol feat (which btw was an elder of the universe weapon so likely wasnt just a regular gun) like all heroes do, but he has quite a consistent level of extremely high durability that he is normally written at. Further, his best feats have little to do with amping since such was never mentioned or even insinuated.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Actually friend i have to disagree with u there. Surfers durability is usually portrayed rather consistently. Indeed he does have low feats like the laser pistol feat (which btw was an elder of the universe weapon so likely wasnt just a regular gun) like all heroes do, but he has quite a consistent level of extremely high durability that he is normally written at. Further, his best feats have little to do with amping since such was never mentioned or even insinuated.

Well, I'd have to believe in the amping/consistency portrayal of the Surfer's powers. While I DO believe that the Surfer's durability is wayyy up there consistently, he's been shown to have some inconsistencies on the levels of durability.

One example would be the Impossible Man issue. At the beginning of his encounter with the alien fleet, they opened fire at him with all their guns. W/c he came out with nothing more than an exasperated look on his face. In the very same issue, a single weapon battery from a single alien ship managed to knock the wind out of him (or equivalent to this) and knock him off his board (tho it did very little damage). Granted, he was caught unawares. But on a consistency basis, someone who manages to shrug off the full focusfire of a whole fleet should just as easily shrug off one shot from a single weapon battery.

I believe the fluctuation in durability may be due to an amp he recieves from his PC. I DO agree that his BASE unamped durability is still shown to be at a consistently higher level than either Thor or Supes as he manages to easily tank the most brutal Blows of Green Skar Hulk without so much as a scratch.

i think supes is more durable against blunt force( like a fist)
and surfer is more durable against energy and explosions( like a nova)
So they tie for number 1
then....
CM and
thor

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well, I'd have to believe in the amping/consistency portrayal of the Surfer's powers. While I DO believe that the Surfer's durability is wayyy up there consistently, he's been shown to have some inconsistencies on the levels of durability.

One example would be the Impossible Man issue. At the beginning of his encounter with the alien fleet, they opened fire at him with all their guns. W/c he came out with nothing more than an exasperated look on his face. In the very same issue, a single weapon battery from a single alien ship managed to knock the wind out of him (or equivalent to this) and knock him off his board (tho it did very little damage). Granted, he was caught unawares. But on a consistency basis, someone who manages to shrug off the full focusfire of a whole fleet should just as easily shrug off one shot from a single weapon battery.

I believe the fluctuation in durability may be due to an amp he recieves from his PC. I DO agree that his BASE unamped durability is still shown to be at a consistently higher level than either Thor or Supes as he manages to easily tank the most brutal Blows of Green Skar Hulk without so much as a scratch.

I have a vague remembrance of the issue ur referring to and dont currently have my comics on this computer, but from the description i think that it was rather do to him not bracing himself for the attack that he was knocked off his board the second time. Neither of the times he was attacked was he actually effectively hurt. by the blasts and i think that is key.In an attack in which he would have braced himself like the first one,he would be able to avoid being knocked off while an attack that would catch him unawares like the second one (even if less powerful than the first) might be able to knock him off his board. Both however didnt do any real damage.

Now ur theory is logical, but the reason that i think it doesnt apply here is that, first of all both of the attacks by the space fleet (the singular and combined) are attacks considerably below what surfer has shown to brush off in the past (with no amping shown). He regularly flies thru stars and comes out none the worse for wear. Hence him needing to amp in order to take the blasts of a spacefleet is out of place and would suggest a level of durability alot lower than what he is regularly portrayed at. Subsequently it would indicate that in order to achieve the level of durability that is regularly seen from him, surfer is amping his durability constantly. However since we do not visibly see any indication of amping on panel, it would further connote that the default condition surfer is usually seen in is an already amped state. I find it hard to believe that surfer is always amped even though this hasnt been shown on panel.

Rather I think its these rare fluctuations in his durability are just more of the low showings that every character has.

Originally posted by Naija boy
I have a vague remembrance of the issue ur referring to and dont currently have my comics on this computer, but from the description i think that it was rather do to him not bracing himself for the attack that he was knocked off his board the second time. Neither of the times he was attacked was he actually effectively hurt. by the blasts and i think that is key.In an attack in which he would have braced himself like the first one,he would be able to avoid being knocked off while an attack that would catch him unawares like the second one (even if less powerful than the first) might be able to knock him off his board. Both however didnt do any real damage.

Now ur theory is logical, but the reason that i think it doesnt apply here is that, first of all both of the attacks by the space fleet (the singular and combined) are attacks considerably below what surfer has shown to brush off in the past (with no amping shown). He regularly flies thru stars and comes out none the worse for wear. Hence him needing to amp in order to take the blasts of a spacefleet is out of place and would suggest a level of durability alot lower than what he is regularly portrayed at. Subsequently it would indicate that in order to achieve the level of durability that is regularly seen from him, surfer is amping his durability constantly. However since we do not visibly see any indication of amping on panel, it would further connote that the default condition surfer is usually seen in is an already amped state. I find it hard to believe that surfer is always amped even though this hasnt been shown on panel.

Rather I think its these rare fluctuations in his durability are just more of the low showings that every character has.

You give space fleet weaponry too little credit. In Annihilation, space fleet weaponry was doing damage to heralds after a while. Also, the issue in question didn't show Surfer bracing himself at all. After the fleet barrage ended, he just stood there, arms crossed, with an exasperated look on his face. 😛

But yeah, I agree about low showings. Surfer has em. But we're talking about a fluctuation of durability within the same issue. He effortlessly tanked the whole fleet's focusfire barrage. There is no reason why a single shot form a single weapons battery should knock him off his board and knock the wind out of him.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
You give space fleet weaponry too little credit. In Annihilation, space fleet weaponry was doing damage to heralds after a while. Also, the issue in question didn't show Surfer bracing himself at all. After the fleet barrage ended, he just stood there, arms crossed, with an exasperated look on his face. 😛

But yeah, I agree about low showings. Surfer has em. But we're talking about a fluctuation of durability within the same issue. He effortlessly tanked the whole fleet's focusfire barrage. There is no reason why a single shot form a single weapons battery should knock him off his board and knock the wind out of him.

Meh, space weaponry aside from the most powerful if ships shouldnt be doing jack to surfer imo. And by bracing himself i mean that he may have been prepared for the attack and hence would brace himself for impact. Its similar to the way a brick like hulk or superman can get seemingly rocked from one unexpected shot, but take multiple of those very same shots after having seen the attack coming (braced themselves)

I honestly see surfer being knocked off his board by a single space ship blast as way to low of a feat to determine if he was amping or not.

This thread gets like a post a day posted strategically so it stays on the front page at all times.

Bump. Because this is a ****ing hilarious thread. Bran going all Carver was pretty amusing and here is best post forever.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor,Superman, Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel Billy

1. Cyclops Full Optic blast - All are injured pretty bad but they are awake (Surfer wont feel it)
2. 20 punches from WWhulk- Superman/Captain Marvel are koed on the 4th punch. Thor drops on the 8th and Surfer remains awake (probably thor remains awake also)
3. Megaton Nuke ground zero- All survive.
4. Goku's ss3 kamehameha 😉- All of them are dead at none Super sayain goku Kamehameha except Silver Surfer
5. Planet explosion- Thor and Surfer
6. Sun Core-All of them except Captain Marvel
7. Super Nova ground zero-All of them die instantly except Surfer (he survives with a smile).
8. A year in a Black Hole- Surfer survives
9. Full Blast from Thanos and Darkseid(no OBP)-Darkseid isnt needed, thanos one shot all of them.
10. Anti-Matter Wave - none survive this

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bump. Because this is a ****ing hilarious thread. Bran going all Carver was pretty amusing and here is best post forever.

[QUOTE=12419361]Originally posted by carver9
[B]Thor,Superman, Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel Billy

1. Cyclops Full Optic blast - All are injured pretty bad but they are awake (Surfer wont feel it)
2. 20 punches from WWhulk- Superman/Captain Marvel are koed on the 4th punch. Thor drops on the 8th and Surfer remains awake (probably thor remains awake also)
3. Megaton Nuke ground zero- All survive.
4. Goku's ss3 kamehameha 😉- All of them are dead at none Super sayain goku Kamehameha except Silver Surfer
5. Planet explosion- Thor and Surfer
6. Sun Core-All of them except Captain Marvel
7. Super Nova ground zero-All of them die instantly except Surfer (he survives with a smile).
8. A year in a Black Hole- Surfer survives
9. Full Blast from Thanos and Darkseid(no OBP)-Darkseid isnt needed, thanos one shot all of them.
10. Anti-Matter Wave - none survive this

😂 [/B][/QUOTE]

😱 😆 As if we needed more proof for Carter's incompetence.