Originally posted by Blinky
I remember Jason punching off some dude's head in Manhattan. Preds (from the original movie) can't touch that.
Jason pulled an Ali, let the fool tire himself out for Lulz, then showed him what he could have done at anytime.
not only that but the predator has better reach since the predator's taller than jason.
and jasons' only chance, maybe, is getting inside that combat zone something the predator will not allow.
what has to be understood is that predators are born hunters born into a hunter culture that live that life everyday until their death which is sometimes a few centuries. And they only hunt someone or something that's gonna be a hard challenge for them. like they take pride in the test being difficult. for the enemies to be worthy and even multiple. like they would not hunt something weak (or sometimes when it's even cause it would be shameful to them. Jason was born a retard and preys on the weak. and that's all he's done for what about 30 years.
the predators the better hunter and the likely winner 10/10 times, to me.
Jason is 7' tall, don't think the Predator is [much] taller than this, if all all.
Arnold got in the Predator's "combat zone" just fine and landed hits. No reason to believe Jason couldn't do the same in a H2H.
With weapons, the Predator would likely win 10/10, as the shoulder cannon would tear Jason apart; H2H, Jason rips it two new assholes.
Originally posted by Robtard
Jason is 7' tall, don't think the Predator is [much] taller than this, if all all.Arnold got in the Predator's "combat zone" just fine and landed hits. No reason to believe Jason couldn't do the same in a H2H.
With weapons, the Predator would likely win 10/10, as the shoulder cannon would tear Jason apart; H2H, Jason rips it two new assholes.
Rip'em 2 new a-holes? Highly doubt it. Pt. 7 Jason was played by Ken Kirzinger who’s actually 6'5”. While Kevin Peter Hall stood at 7’2” as the Predator we’re talking about. That’s quite a reach advantage if you ask me especially you’re the better and faster fighter.
And Arnold got close just fine?, i don't think so. Arnold got in a few hits all to no avail. He never stood a chance which is why he used dirty guerilla tactics instead of h2h cause he knew a fist fight would be futile.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Rip'em 2 new a-holes? Highly doubt it. Pt. 7 Jason was played by Ken Kirzinger who’s actually 6'5”. While Kevin Peter Hall stood at 7’2” as the Predator we’re talking about. That’s quite a reach advantage if you ask me especially you’re the better and faster fighter.And Arnold got close just fine?, i don't think so. Arnold got in a few hits all to no avail. He never stood a chance which is why he used dirty guerilla tactics instead of h2h cause he knew a fist fight would be futile.
Jason, the character is 7' tall. Kane Hodder and such wore lifted boots, padded clothes and such to accomplish this. So if you're correct about the Predator, it's a mere 2" taller. If this were a dick measuring contest, I'd say 2" is a good/great advantage; in a fight, meh.
Yeah, Arnold did get close and he got some hits in; they didn't do shit to the Predator since he's just a human. Jason is far more powerful than a human, as seen. Dude can crush skulls with bare hands.
Originally posted by Robtard
Jason pulled an Ali, let the fool tire himself out for Lulz, then showed him what he could have done at anytime.
i, so laughed so damn hard when i first watched this while seeing the movie
Originally posted by golem370
Predator took an explosion from point blank range. He is the question I know its not his only sight range but could he see Jason with infa-red? His claws had to rip threw flesh to get to the spinal colum.
Don't think it was 'point blank range', as in, it hit hit squarely on the body. Think it hit the tree, next to him.
Let's just assume he can see Jason.
He ripped out that spinal-cord after he had skinned and prepped the body. Don't think he's going to be able to rip out Jason's spine during a fight.
He ripped it out of a dead body in the trees and then let the body dropped the point about him doing it was the power that was displayed in doing that. Also he was standing over that stuff when Arnold threw the stick that set it off he even bowd over in pain. He also had great agility jumping from branch to branch. He grad Arnold who weight 220lbs from the ground and slammed him into a tree he also held him off the ground for a few seconds. Predator would win.
Originally posted by golem370
He ripped it out of a dead body in the trees and then let the body dropped the point about him doing it was the power that was displayed in doing that. Also he was standing over that stuff when Arnold threw the stick that set it off he even bowd over in pain. He also had great agility jumping from branch to branch. He grad Arnold who weight 220lbs from the ground and slammed him into a tree he also held him off the ground for a few seconds. Predator would win.
Jason's had his fair share of tossing people round and strength feats in general. He's also crushed a man's skill in part IV, no easy feat, that.
Again, how's Predator going to take him down without weapons, at least down before Jason ****s his shit up? Jason's got massive durability, damage-soak and regeneration on his side in terms of staying power.
Originally posted by golem370
Not enough to stop the Predator. Stalemate at best. Jason couldn't even touch Predator.
Not sure which movie you watched, but the Predator wasn't some light on his feet, dancing around like Ali type of fighter, he was little more than a brute, when it came to H2H. Arnold was able to hit him a few times, with his fist.
Na, in the long run, Predator would succumb to being smashed on by Jason's strength.
Originally posted by golem370
Predator was pretty quick in the first movie. He killed Carl Weathers could use that second gun he had. He was fast then Jason could ever be. Has Jason ever fought anybody with a Predators kind of power not counting Freddy because that was like Super Jason
Carl "Super-Black" Weathers was also severely ****ed up from the cannon, it's not like he was down with the quickness.
That works both ways, has the Predator ever taken anyone out with what Jason has, especially without weapons?
*Sigh* This is why I rarely visit this movie vs forum.
Originally posted by Davis Bloome
I think Wolf would probably have been the better candidate for the fight, actually. The Predator's of the first AVP seemed pretty inexperienced, and fairly easy to dispatch of.
If you go to any of the Predator or AVP boards over at IMDB and ask which was the best Predator of the bunch, all the Predator fans will unanimously say the first Predator. Even Wolf's biggest fanboy on that site says the first one is better. There's a reason the first Predator survived years before being stopped as opposed to all his buddies who died within days at best. And he did it with less weapons than them too.
Originally posted by KingD19
How strong was the original Predator?
We didn't really get to see it's strength that much in the film. We do however know it's much physically superior than Arnold who lifted up a pick up truck at the beginning and was able to bend down those huge jungle trees with his buddies.
Originally posted by Robtard
Jason is 7' tall, don't think the Predator is [much] taller than this, if all all.
Kevin Peter Hall has a foot on all the actors who played Jason exception to the last two actors Ken and Derek. Ken was even taller than Kane in his Jason outfit in part 8. Even this Jason wanted poster has the character at 6'3".
The only time the director would have even intended Jason to be that tall would be in FvJ where the director said he wanted to give a David vs Goliath feel. Even then he was shy of 7 foot while the Thomas brothers themselves say the Predator is intended to be around 8 to 9 foot.
Originally posted by Robtard
Arnold got in the Predator's "combat zone" just fine and landed hits. No reason to believe Jason couldn't do the same in a H2H.
Predator didn't even take Arnold seriously at that point. Or did you miss the part where it got Arnold's neck in it's claws and a moment later pinned against a rock, but chose not to kill him.
Originally posted by Robtard
Let's just assume he can see Jason.
It was shown at the beginning of the movie that corpses appear in green. Even if that wasn't the case, in the final battle Predator was able to spot a small rock rolling down a cliff (bet that has less heat than Jason), and was constantly able to locate Arnold despite his best efforts. Nearly shot him a couple of times. Jason ain't hiding from Preddy.
Originally posted by Robtard
With weapons, the Predator would likely win 10/10, as the shoulder cannon would tear Jason apart; H2H, Jason rips it two new assholes.
Jason was grabbed and pulled into the water by Tina's dad. Then held down until he drowned in part 7. Predator ain't loosing this one. Not to mention it took not one but *two* point blank grenade explosions before it finally started bleeding. Not a direct hit, but definitely in the explosion range as it almost fell off of the tree by the second one.
Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
*Sigh* This is why I rarely visit this movie vs forum.Kevin Peter Hall has a foot on all the actors who played Jason exception to the last two actors Ken and Derek. Ken was even taller than Kane in his Jason outfit in part 8. Even this Jason wanted poster has the character at 6'3".
The only time the director would have even intended Jason to be that tall would be in FvJ where the director said he wanted to give a David vs Goliath feel. Even then he was shy of 7 foot while the Thomas brothers themselves say the Predator is intended to be around 8 to 9 foot.
Predator didn't even take Arnold seriously at that point. Or did you miss the part where it got Arnold's neck in it's claws and a moment later pinned against a rock, but chose not to kill him.
It was shown at the beginning of the movie that corpses appear in green. Even if that wasn't the case, in the final battle Predator was able to spot a small rock rolling down a cliff (bet that has less heat than Jason), and was constantly able to locate Arnold despite his best efforts. Nearly shot him a couple of times. Jason ain't hiding from Preddy.
Jason was grabbed and pulled into the water by Tina's dad. Then held down until he drowned in part 7. Predator ain't loosing this one. Not to mention it took not one but *two* point blank grenade explosions before it finally started bleeding. Not a direct hit, but definitely in the explosion range as it almost fell off of the tree by the second one.
Then *sigh* yourself the **** out, that easy 🙂
Yeah, was wrong about the Predator's height. Looking online, Jason is listed between 6'3" and 7'. Depending on the source. 6'3" seems to be the most common, so that it is.
That doesn't counter what I said, now does it. Arnold got hits in and the Predator wasn't some speed-demon in terms of H2H combat, more of just a brute.
Yeah, that wasn't in dispute.
Tina's father was also undead, so there's no telling how strong he was, but obviously very strong. That doesn't take away Jason's previous strength feats, crushing skulls and whatnot. They're in the forest, Predator isn't dragging Jason into water.
Originally posted by Robtard
Then *sigh* yourself the **** out, that easy 🙂Yeah, was wrong about the Predator's height. Looking online, Jason is listed between 6'3" and 7'. Depending on the source. 6'3" seems to be the most common, so that it is.
That doesn't counter what I said, now does it. Arnold got hits in and the Predator wasn't some speed-demon in terms of H2H combat, more of just a brute.
Yeah, that wasn't in dispute.
Tina's father was also undead, so there's no telling how strong he was, but obviously very strong. That doesn't take away Jason's previous strength feats, crushing skulls and whatnot. They're in the forest, Predator isn't dragging Jason into water.
Why would the Predator be fighting like a speed demon if he wasn't taking the fight seriously? Does Cyclops strip off his visor against meager opponents? Predator made quick work of Hawkins, Dillon and Sonny in H2H when he was trying to kill them. Also later in the Schwarzenegger fight when we saw the fight through the Pred's eye, it was comboing Arnold pretty badly.
The OP says they're fighting in Camp Crystal lake, so there's a large body of water here and Jason is stupid enough to follow them to the water. We've seen it all the time.
Though I doubt the Predator would even need the water. If we're allowed to reference other F13 films (don't see why not since it's the same character), then I can give examples of characters who definitely have human capabilities giving it to Jason. There's Tommy Jarvis in part 6 who went against Jason not once but twice at the beginning and the end. Both encounters started with Jason grabbing him from behind and the first encounter ended with Tommy easily breaking free than kicking Jason back down to his grave. The second had Tommy actually outmuscling Jason and knocking him off the boat.
Next character Steven in part 9 who took Jason's best beatings and got back up to deliver some of his own in a fight that Jason ultimately died in.
Then there's Freddy Krueger who really layed it to Jason and defeated him and was ultimately killed by teenagers.
So we have three examples of human level opponents each who managed something against Jason in his fights. Tommy managed to overpower, Steven managed to take all his best beatings and came back for more and Krueger managed to downright beat the crap out of him and defeat him. And the Predator is superior to these three.