Chaos Vincent and Sephiroth vs. Link and Ganondorf

Started by ScreamPaste26 pages

No, really, everytime you posti n this thread you're commiting a crime against e-humanity. 😐

Also, you're trying to misconstrue a few vague, and highly hyperbolic quotes to suit your own argument, and then ignored the various times they were picked apart, disproven, and shown to be entirely out of line with the FF7 verse.

Explain to me how Ganon doesn't just seal them in the gap between dimensions because they are helpless to stop him? Or he could reduce them to paste? 😐

Sephiroth has TK, but not enough strength to stop Ganon or harm him.
Vincent is Sephiroth lite with no TK.

Your argument is what? They fly around him annoyingly until they bore him to death?

Edit: Oh, and you're a dick. 😛

My argument? I've not given an argument. I stated I think Sephy and Vincent have this battle won based on supernova and lightspeed being canon. Its everyone else who has given an argument. Address them because they have put up a better argument than you. And again, I've read this whole thread. Let me sum up your argument: Play a Zelda game.

I am a dick. Your point?

My argument? I've not given an argument. I stated I think Sephy and Vincent have this battle won based on supernova and lightspeed being canon.

There's a massive difference between a statement, and a hyperbolic quote. That's been picked apart so many times it's laughable.
Hell, even if we allow it, the lightspeed movement only applies to moving next to the opponent, during one special move, and in this case, that's the last place Sephiroth wants to be. 😛
There's a statement somewhere about the Golden Gauntlets giving Link the strength to move a mountain, but we know this to be false because he clearly exerts effort throwing around a thousand tons, not a lot of effort, but enough to show moving a mountain is impossible.

Furthermore, for all that banter, Dissidia was never even proven to be canon, and Sephiroth's supernova gets shot down so many times a day on this forum it's practicly a running joke. The only way it could be as powerful as an exploding star is if stars in FF7 work entirely differently and are less powerful than TnT, since a single gunshot put a hurt on Cloud. 😬

Neither Vincent nor Sephiroth can harm the other team, they lose.

Furthermore:
http://kmcgames.wikidot.com/ganondorf Get at this article written by Dark-Jaxx
and this one written in pieces by a few people, so you know who you're dealing with:
http://kmcgames.wikidot.com/screampaste

Also, my point is that you're a dick, and here's why:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=504708&pagenumber=1

This will make you hate Link v.s. Sephiroth forever. Have fun.

Dissidia is proven to be canon if you play the game, as people have stated. And I'm not arguing with you. I agree with the other side that thinks team FF wins, but in no way does that mean I have to acknowledge you for anything. And I'm not going to because you don't give me a reason to. You call me a dick and I've never once insulted you. Yes, I'm the dick. I brought up my reasons for siding with them and that affected you so tremendously that you just had to say something to someone who doesn't care who you are, doesn't really care about this debate, doesn't even care to make his own account, and only comments out of boredom on occasion.

I think you've missed the point by quite a lot. 😐

Lemme lay this out so you get it:

1. You're a dick for bumping a potential doomsday thread. I don't care if you've insulted me, but don't feel special because I chose to call you a dick. The internet is not serious business and you take the fun out of it when you get sincerely butthurt. If you think it has anything to do with your opinion you're flattering yourself.
2. You've said you back team FF, and also said you have no argument, on this forum that amounts to "TROLL ME 😄", so I obliged.
3. If you take dick as an insult you're gonna hate me. It's practicly a profession of love. 131
4. Gtfo.

1. You'll have to forgive me for "bumping" this thread. I am new to this site and I've seen nothing wrong with just commenting on the thread.
2. I've seen several instances where a person has sided with one side. No one says a thing to them.
3. Been insulted worse before by far more stupid people. Still don't care. If you think I care, its irrelevant.
4. Uhh sure.

2. I've seen several instances where a person has sided with one side. No one says a thing to them.
Those are usually cases of an obvious win or spite thread.
1. You'll have to forgive me for "bumping" this thread. I am new to this site and I've seen nothing wrong with just commenting on the thread.
Shit happens, usually something like this is dead by the time it's halfway down the front page. The problem is a thread like this will go to a hundred pages or more. Check the thread I linked you to. 😐 It's hell. HEEELLLLLLLLL.
3. Been insulted worse before by far more stupid people. Still don't care. If you think I care, its irrelevant.
Great. Now my thoughts are irrelevant. DICK D:<

Edit: Also, that article on me says atleast twice that I'm a troll. I was trying to help you stop feeding me. 😛

MOAR! Seriously, how many pages will this topic get before it dies?

Gonna laugh if it ties with LvK, and by laugh, I mean that kind of hysterical laughter that turns into horrified sobbing at the realization of something so horrendous having actually occurred...😐

Sigh.....darnit guys.

Dissidia is about as canon as Smash bros. Which isn't. So stop bringing it up. It's nothing more than fanservice in the form of a shitty game.

ScreamPaste, that mountain moving quote comes from the official OoT guide, btw. I know cuz I have it.

It took me 3 days to read the whole Sephiroth vs Link argument (Link won), and this stompfest better not become that long.

Originally posted by LLLLLink

(Lot's of random things that literally make no sense and\or are wrong.

Sephiroth never blocks Cloud whilst Cloud does Omnislash v6, he tries but Cloud goes straight through him, I just watched it on my 24" monitor in bluray for lossless quality.

Also, Cloud goes straight through him many many other times during the attack.

In ACC they ramped up the blood, so if Omnislash v6 did do physical damage, we would have seen it.

Aaaaaaand yeah, Dissidia is canon, sorry brah :-(.

The blood is only in the director's cut version.

Now gtfo and stop bumping doomsday threads.

We have established the following:

I disagree with you, you disagree with me. We can sit around and butt heads, and believe me, I'll win. I once won a staring contest with my cat. 😐

OR. We can let this die before it gets taken to the extremes the last one was.

YouTube video

Tell me what exactly you see at 1:13. Because I see Sephiroth blocking the Omnislash plain as day.

You should pray that Dissidia isn't canon, otherwise the shittiness of the FF universe skyrockets.

While this is still up top, I'd like to point out the following:

The New Omnisslash in ACC, and by extension the most recent, in the director's cut of the film, the one where there's blood.

It's the most physical in appearance of any of them. Now, not to be choosey, but you seem to be picking and choosing slices of the scene to fit your arguments, Kill3r. You claim to use the scene where Cloud phases through Sephiroth, and there is no blood as proof it's non-physical.

Then the scene where there is blood, and it is shown to be a physical slashing move, you note cloud's blood as evidence that Sephiroth's lack of dismemberment had nothing to do with the PG13 rating.

Wellll, Sephiroth was clearly being struck physicly, and had the time to turn and watch himself get hit with each strike, in that scene, and with the Pg13 limits being stretched in the director's cut version, Sephiroth gets cut up. Not dismembered, that'd still break the rating, but physicly brutalised.

Hm.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The blood is only in the director's cut version.

Now gtfo and stop bumping doomsday threads.

We have established the following:

I disagree with you, you disagree with me. We can sit around and butt heads, and believe me, I'll win. I once won a staring contest with my cat. 😐

OR. We can let this die before it gets taken to the extremes the last one was.

Yes, it is.

You realise you just bumped it, twice.

You won't win, this will just get locked and you will presume you won. Or I will get sick of you using skewed logic: Link can throw heavy items, that means his skin cannot be pierced.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
YouTube video

Tell me what exactly you see at 1:13. Because I see Sephiroth blocking the Omnislash plain as day.

You should pray that Dissidia isn't canon, otherwise the shittiness of the FF universe skyrockets.

When I get back home, I'll show you what actually happens there.

I would like to see you design a game 10% as good as FF1, not make! just design. Oh wait, you don't even know the plot or anything of FF1 I guess that allows you to accurately review the FF universe.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
While this is still up top, I'd like to point out the following:

The New Omnisslash in ACC, and by extension the most recent, in the director's cut of the film, the one where there's blood.

It's the most physical in appearance of any of them. Now, not to be choosey, but you seem to be picking and choosing slices of the scene to fit your arguments, Kill3r. You claim to use the scene where Cloud phases through Sephiroth, and there is no blood as proof it's non-physical.

Then the scene where there is blood, and it is shown to be a physical slashing move, you note cloud's blood as evidence that Sephiroth's lack of dismemberment had nothing to do with the PG13 rating.

Wellll, Sephiroth was clearly being struck physicly, and had the time to turn and watch himself get hit with each strike, in that scene, and with the Pg13 limits being stretched in the director's cut version, Sephiroth gets cut up. Not dismembered, that'd still break the rating, but physicly brutalised.

Hm.

No, they would have at least shown a little blood if he was indeed being physically cut, or shown his garments getting cut (Unless he held them together with his Will?)

I didn't pick or choose the slashes, the slash that LLLLLink is referring to goes straight through Sephiroth and his sword, I will see if I can printscreen it to show you when I get home.

Again Sephiroth doesn't get hit physically because he doesn't get cut or anything, not even his clothes, and he has survived massive physical trauma before without it affecting him in the slightest(Not including the meteor landing). NOTHING shows Sephiroth getting hurt physically in that scene.

Also, Chaos Vincent and Sephiroth has shown speeds that Ganondorf nor Link can keep up with. Link would attempt to draw his sword and Chaos Vincent would be out of his range of sight, high in the air sending down his planet quaking attack, which would obliterate both of them. Ganondorf would attempt to tk or use magic on Sephiroth and Sephiroth would already be up with Chaos Vincent sending down heaps of blade beams, slicing them up into several pieces before the planet quaking attack hits.

Godamnit, stop bumping this.

Also, Sephiroth has never bled to my knowedge, post nib.

Jenoviroth probably doesn't even have blood.

furthermore, even if either Spehiroth or Vincent /could/ hurt Ganondorf(TheyCan't!), he can just become intangible, now they can't even try to hurt him, and are gettign sealed between dimensions.

Ganon alone soloes spitefully easily. You're not grasping that.

They have no way of fighting Ganondorf, at all, and thus, they cannot win.

You've wasted so many pages trying to refute his offensive power, and failed, that you totally neglected to mention how they're evne going to harm him? They're not physicly strong enough, they're not magicly strong enough, and he has telekinesis that puts Sephiroth to shame. He can become intangible, or even possess either one of them.

Edit: And don't bother bumping this until you have something new. I'm not going over and re-debunking the same old Sephiroth arguments for a thousandth time. As I've said, neither of us will budge, but I have you beat in endurance. But that's still a war no one wins.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Godamnit, stop bumping this.

Also, Sephiroth has never bled to my knowedge, post nib.

Jenoviroth probably doesn't even have blood.

furthermore, even if either Spehiroth or Vincent /could/ hurt Ganondorf(TheyCan't!), he can just become intangible, now they can't even try to hurt him, and are gettign sealed between dimensions.

Ganon alone soloes spitefully easily. You're not grasping that.

How is it that Ganondorf can't be harmed? I just said his weakness being only the Triforce is gone and can be harmed by Seph and CV or are you saying he's too fast or his TK can stop them?

I'm saying they're not strong enough to physicly harm him, or magicly over-power him.

He can become intangible if he feels like being careful, but won't need to. What are they going to do? Fly around shouting "I'm faster than you are!!!!"? That's all they have... The ability to run away. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm saying they're not strong enough to physicly harm him, or magicly over-power him.

He can become intangible if he feels like being careful, but won't need to. What are they going to do? Fly around shouting "I'm faster than you are!!!!"? That's all they have... The ability to run away. 😐

As the OP of this thread, he's physical at all times and won't go intangible so there.

Not strong enough to hit him even when in physical form? What feats are there that his skin is that strong?

As the guy who made the thread, maybe you should read it.

1. Tankign castle busting force.
2. Surviving stabs directly to the face from OoT Link with golden gauntlets with the master sword

Neither Sephiroth no Vincent can touch him and STOP bumping this. D:<