Chaos Vincent and Sephiroth vs. Link and Ganondorf

Started by menokokoro26 pages

Originally posted by LLLLLink
If "closed minded" means "wants facts", then yes I am. I just dont share in the shroud of delusion that some people wrap themselves in.

Let me expound; It took 28 seconds for Cloud to complete Omnislash version 6 from start to finish (I graciously knocked off 2 seconds of Sephiroth gasping in slow motion from the time)
You can do a lot of damage to someone in 28 seconds, and Omnislash is a featless waste of that time.

there you go again, you change my words to try and make my argument stupid, now if you would actually answer my questions strait instead of tiptoeing around everything then this could be a proper debate.

yes 28 seconds of an attack that was easily 15 attacks, made dramatic for theatrical purposes. you cannot use exact things like that in a movie/game, unless that particular movie points it out or was meant to be like that. you have tried multiple times to make sense of things that make no sense, and are not meant to. like the whole thing about how solar flair cannot possibly be as powerful as it is said to be because it didn't destroy the planet, yes that would make sense in the real world, but this isn't the real world it is a video game where people can fly and control people with their minds and summon earth destroying meteors, and come back from the dead simply because someone got in contact with some cells that aren't even theirs...it is a fantasy story, if it were meant to make sense it wouldn't be a fantasy story. you should be looking at the facts that have been stated, not the facts as a scientist would, because it is not meant to be looked at in that way

Originally posted by menokokoro
there you go again, you change my words to try and make my argument stupid, now if you would actually answer my questions strait instead of tiptoeing around everything then this could be a proper debate.

yes 28 seconds of an attack that was easily 15 attacks, made dramatic for theatrical purposes. you cannot use exact things like that in a movie/game, unless that particular movie points it out or was meant to be like that. you have tried multiple times to make sense of things that make no sense, and are not meant to. like the whole thing about how solar flair cannot possibly be as powerful as it is said to be because it didn't destroy the planet, yes that would make sense in the real world, but this isn't the real world it is a video game where people can fly and control people with their minds and summon earth destroying meteors, and come back from the dead simply because someone got in contact with some cells that aren't even theirs...it is a fantasy story, if it were meant to make sense it wouldn't be a fantasy story. you should be looking at the facts that have been stated, not the facts as a scientist would, because it is not meant to be looked at in that way

Look, its great that you understand that real world limitations dont always apply to fictional game universes. Your attitude and approach are refreshing. But, things like gravity, inertia, weight and so forth do apply and are crucial for determining factors like speed, power, ect.

A claim was made that Cloud's blue aura was indicative of Omnislash ver. 6 and intangibility. Using video clips from ACC, I gave solid and irrefutable proof that Cloud is NOT intangible while performing said move.

What is so wrong about that?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Look, its great that you understand that real world limitations dont always apply to fictional game universes. Your attitude and approach are refreshing. But, things like gravity, inertia, weight and so forth do apply and are crucial for determining factors like speed, power, ect.

A claim was made that Cloud's blue aura was indicative of Omnislash ver. 6 and intangibility. Using video clips from ACC, I gave solid and irrefutable proof that Cloud is NOT intangible while performing said move.

What is so wrong about that?

i am simply saying that you cannot use things like time in a theatrical...well anything to prove a point unless it is specified in the movie because it is meant for dramatic effect, for all you know that entire attack was actually half a second.

just because you say it is irrefutable does not make it so, sure the fact that he had the blue aura does not mean that he is intangible, but it doesnt mean he isn't either. also there is the fact that the blue versions of himself are in like 15 places at once, and the fact that he did go through seph sword and sow on.

and thanks for the compliment that was unexpected

All of this was actually just a super-long rabbit trail to prove that Sephiroth does not turn intangible. Then somebody wanked Omnislash, and here we are.

yeah well, i really dont know who would win seph or ganon, i know ganon is powerful.

i was just pointing out things that were ignored/not looked at properly.

also im sick of link "winning" all these threads, i know ganon is powerful but i think you guys are overestimating links powers by a lot

We don't make the threads, we just debate in his favour, and to be fair, he does have some pretty impressive feats. 😐

I'm still certain Ganon soloes, however.

yeah link does have impressive feats, but that does depend on how you look at the game, see i look at the loz games as kind of cartoony, so the "physics" are not what they appear, i may be wrong, but i just dont think that link is nearly as powerful as you think he is.

but yes ganon is crazy powerful, but so is sephiroth and vincent. to be honest though i really dont know how powerful ganon is, i know seph and vin pretty well, but ganon really only from the little you ahve said and from ww and tp games, i have not played any other all the way through

Why is this thread still going on, Sephiroth solos based on real feats, not fanfiction....

A couple feats include
-Tanking a direct hit so powerful it blew up the castle around him with no damage.
-Tanking four slashes from the master sword, which is essentially kryptonite to him, to his face in the hands of a Golden Gauntleted Link, and just being mad.
-Being stabbed through the brain without his piece of the triforce, by the sword, and still being able to speak.
-Breaking out of a seal laid on him by the goddesses themselves, even without the bulk of his power available to him. (The master sword still held together what was left of the seal on his power, and he could not break that.)
-Destroying an island.
-Casually levitating an entire castle with no effort.
-Destroying the castle with TK.
-Overlapping dimensions at will.
-Opening portals to the gap between dimensions.
-Possession.
-Inspiring BT to rage and troll
ect.

i think its funny that the godeses cannot keep ganon but a sword can.. 🤨

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
A couple feats include
-Tanking a direct hit so powerful it blew up the castle around him with no damage.
-Tanking four slashes from the master sword, which is essentially kryptonite to him, to his face in the hands of a Golden Gauntleted Link, and just being mad.
-Being stabbed through the brain without his piece of the triforce, by the sword, and still being able to speak.
-Breaking out of a seal laid on him by the goddesses themselves, even without the bulk of his power available to him. (The master sword still held together what was left of the seal on his power, and he could not break it.
-Destroying an island.
-Casually levitating an entire castle with no effort.
-Destroying the castle with TK.
-Overlapping dimensions at will.
-Opening portals to the gap between dimensions.
-Possession.
ect.

1. He was already defeated and he was a floating disembodied head at the time, not likely even physical. We also dont even know if Ganon is even in there as it explodes as he seems to end up on the ridge near link too fast.

2. Not really that impressive, many entities can survive their weakness and half the time the sword still defeats him, turns him to stone or w/e

3. Fair enough, this is actually a real feat.

4. Goddesses are not necesserily as powerful as you assume.

The castle feats have been tumbled so many times its silly, theres notihng that proves the castle flies from Tk, his will or much of anything and its destruction is not that impressive and almost as ambiguous as how the castle flies.

Originally posted by menokokoro
i think its funny that the godeses cannot keep ganon but a sword can.. 🤨
And this discredits him how?

it doesn't, i was just pointing out something funny

The sword is extremely powerful, it was capable of over-powering the entire triforce in aLttP, and the triforce causes extreme reality warping just by being possessed, it also can never be touched by evil, which stopped Ganon from removing it from the pedestal where it sealed his power.

aha, that makes sence...but still, wouldn't you think that the goddeses would be able to mimic such power?

For some reason, it seems they either couldn't or chose not to.

ah lol ok, btw who made the master sword?

We don't actually know. 😐 That's down to theory.

Some say either the goddesses, or the original sages.

Ancient sages forged it.

....i think

LOL thats funny, the ancient sages are more powerful in an indirect way than the goddess' are directly...doesn't that sound a bit...dumb idk just sayin'