When has their neck been hit by anything?Their entire bodies have been exposted to extreme forces and your going to propose just their necks are some how less durable than the rest of them? Lol?
I've played all of them, I completely despise Sephiroth and personally see him as over rated, & yet you can't convince me how he loses to ganondoof and lump.Then you should play them again and pay attention. In WW Ganon destroys an island, even with the bulk of his power pinned down by that same sword, in OoT he TK's his entire castle passively, and then demolishes it after a fight with Link. He also takes his own Anathema to the face four times, and he doesn't die. He's just pissed off. 😬 Let me emphasis that four strikes from his own anathema in the hands of a being that can chuck thousand ton pillars is not something Sephiroth or Vincent will ever be able to emulate.
As for "a lump", Link won the Link v.s. Sephiroth thread by such silly means as throwing an apple. Chaos Vincent's no better. And Link doesn't have to do anything in this fight except laugh, because neither Chaos or Seph can hurt Ganondorf or himself. 😬
The sword was made for that specific reason, its not some random special sword that link can find, it is a legendary sword that is consistently used made for that one specific reason, beat the triforce of power wielder. Even if sephiroth doesn't attack Link, Chaos Vincent destroys him, Link can't do much against that speed and power.Actually, you're wrong, it's the blade of evil's bane, not the blade of Ganon's bane. It existed before he did, infact. 😬 and yeah, it's an incredibly powerful and legendary artifact. Which does nothing to deminish it's effectiveness against Sephiroth.
I think screams argument is going to be simply ignored until he actually orders it a little. Against me he complains I need to play the games, and against someone who has played hte games appraently their perception is not good enough? The guys a joker I understand but if hes trying to make a serious argument I suggest he actually finds sources to back him up, preferably in the form of youtube vids....
While the actual destruction of the sun is an illusion, Supernova as an attack does exist canonically and is incredibly powerful. In Crisis Core it's confirmed that it's his signature move, The 10th anniversary Ultimania says he has it, The CC Complete Guide says that it does indeed hit with "the power of an expanding star"(meaning that while it doesn't actually blow the sun up it hits with the same amount of force as if it actually had blown up), and Dissidia says the attack is so powerful it can "send destruction even into other dimensions."
Scream, you have got to be the most blind fanboy I've ever heard of. The creators of a game are it's gods, whatever they say is a canon fact. You calling it exaggeration just shows everyone here that you know you've lost this but can't admit it, as rather than trying to give a durability feat against lightspeed attacks or attacks as powerful as an exploding sun you just try to baselessly discredit the source. This is an incredibly lame debate fallacy, stop embarrassing yourself.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Their entire bodies have been exposted to extreme forces and your going to propose just their necks are some how less durable than the rest of them? Lol?Then you should play them again and pay attention. In WW Ganon destroys an island, even with the bulk of his power pinned down by that same sword, in OoT he TK's his entire castle passively, and then demolishes it after a fight with Link. He also takes his own Anathema to the face four times, and he doesn't die. He's just pissed off. 😬 Let me emphasis that four strikes from his own anathema in the hands of a being that can chuck thousand ton pillars is not something Sephiroth or Vincent will ever be able to emulate.
As for "a lump", Link won the Link v.s. Sephiroth thread by such silly means as throwing an apple. Chaos Vincent's no better. And Link doesn't have to do anything in this fight except laugh, because neither Chaos or Seph can hurt Ganondorf or himself. 😬
Actually, you're wrong, it's the blade of [b]evil
's bane, not the blade of Ganon's bane. It existed before he did, infact. 😬 and yeah, it's an incredibly powerful and legendary artifact. Which does nothing to deminish it's effectiveness against Sephiroth. [/B]
Ever heard of weak points? Not that legend of zelda bosses never had any of them, including Ganon.
Where has it even been stated that Ganon TKs? I know he uses spells, thats more than likely what he did for the castle but I've never heard or seen him TK anything, next I'm gonna hear his psychic abilities would destroy mewtwo?
1,000 ton pillars where does that amount come from? Hangover? I'm sure those building chunks Seph's sword's chops off weighs 100,000 tons then cause they easily outsize the stone pillars & the material outweighs.
I went against Sephiroth in that thread just cause I was tired of how much people over rated him, but really I see Seph as the winner and this fight is ridiculously easy either one on FF7 side solos.
So I guess that sword ironically is only used by the ironic reincarnated Link who gets his same triforce and ironically fights Ganondorf who ironically gets the same triforce and all the problems in the world are caused by him ironically & the sword is used to fight his evil doing.
Let me put it this way, if you actually don't have any supporting evidence to anything, don't say anything at all.
"Play a LoZ game" is not a valid argument, thats about as valid as "play a final fantasy game."
Fanboyism doesn't win matches in the real world otherwise Mario would be destroying Goku in a fight (Note: Alot more people know & like Mario as opposed to Goku or anyone in DBZ.)
Ever heard of weak points? Not that legend of zelda bosses never had any of them, including Ganon.Actually, Ganon didn't. Lol, he'd defend himself until you light arrowed him. And still, this is a flawed argument. It comes from gameplay, is illogical, and Link isn't a boss, and Ganon has only ever had a 'weak point' in his monster form. 😬
Where has it even been stated that Ganon TKs? I know he uses spells, thats more than likely what he did for the castle but I've never heard or seen him TK anything, next I'm gonna hear his psychic abilities would destroy mewtwo?You obviously have no played every Zelda game, then.. Especially in the recent ones he can be seen using telekenisis consistantly.
1,000 ton pillars where does that amount come from? Hangover? I'm sure those building chunks Seph's sword's chops off weighs 100,000 tons then cause they easily outsize the stone pillars & the material outweighs.Comes from volume x density. Also, wtflol? Those bits of falling debris were toothpicks compared to the pillars Link threw, and even then, Sephiroth only cut them as they fell down to him. Give spider man a sword strong enough to not break and he could do the same thing with class 10 strength. Furthermore, they'd be made of lighter materials because you don't build tall shit out of heavy shit our it can't sustain it's own weight.
I went against Sephiroth in that thread just cause I was tired of how much people over rated him, but really I see Seph as the winner and this fight is ridiculously easy either one on FF7 side solos.You have nothing to support this. both characters on the FF side are too weak to hurt Ganon or Link, who are respectively class 100+, and deal with each other regularly. Ganondorf alone is enough to make this spite, lettign Link help is unnecessary.
Let me put it this way, if you actually don't have any supporting evidence to anything, don't say anything at all.Take your own advice.
"Play a LoZ game" is not a valid argument, thats about as valid as "play a final fantasy game."You don't listen well, so I'll repeat myself. That's for BT who's ignorance knows no bounds, and once wasted 3 pages of the social thread claiming Ganon is weak and a moron. Lulz.
So yeah. Until team FF has some answer to team Zelda's superior strength and durability, they simply cannot win. Call me a fanboy, but you haven't proved me wrong.
It does, the gods of FF VII have declared it so, meaning I win silly.Making a hyperbolic statement doesn't make it canon that the power actually has that strength. Sooo, no. Taking it out of context to suit your argument ftw, right? Lol.
Nice try though. You do realise what an "expression" is, yes?
So; It's hyperbolic, illogical, and defies everythign else that has ever happened in the FF7 verse.
Yeaaah, I win.
See, it's funny, because hyperbolic and out of context describes any argument you've ever used to defend Link. All the evidence shows us he's barely above a normal human, trust me champ, I've played every main series LoZ game, but you take one silly pillar lifting feat, which requires gloves that can only move specific marked blocks, and use it to try to say Link can actually do more than get hurt when falling from a tree. 🙂
Sorry little guy, but you're not just being silly, you're being a hypocrite. 🙁
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so considering the chunk of the building I was referring to was larger than the pillar which was obviously stated are not pebbles want to think again?
lol guestimate fail
Sephiroth uses his mastery of magic & casts death which causes instant death. No wait he puts up his shield which makes him invenurable for a limited amount of time. No wait he completely stops them in time. Nah maybe he should just silence Ganon and make him fight like a real man. Or of course Vincent just shoots them ermm
see how well that works?
The whole gauntlets=1000 ton feat is based on whats pretty much gameplay given a short clip that shows link lifting it. The whole games basis would be in contradiction, link would be doing regular feats far greater than Kratos in his games if this was the case but intstead the whole basis of the game is a puzzle/exploration game as Scream has said so himself. Chances are is that this was just a fun element in LoZ just like bouncing gorons when they fall on lava and w/e other funny creature appears in LoZ.
If this happened in GoW or a game actually based around brutal killing, strength and fantasy entities who are well known to have enhanced strength then fair enough but trying to add accurate maths (not that I would know, for all I know it could be badly thought out with major flaws) to a game whos main basis does not revolve around realistic depictions of strength or power and instead puzzles, key finding and exploring is ridiculous. Its just an amusing anomoly that is given too much thought.
See, it's funny, because hyperbolic and out of context describes any argument you've ever used to defend Link. All the evidence shows us he's barely above a normal human, trust me champ, I've played every main series LoZ game, but you take one silly pillar lifting feat, which requires gloves that can only move specific marked blocks, and use it to try to say Link can actually do more than get hurt when falling from a tree.Moar arguments from gameplay mechanics, I see.Sorry little guy, but you're not just being silly, you're being a hypocrite.
so considering the chunk of the building I was referring to was larger than the pillar which was obviously stated are not pebbles want to think again?Seeing as no, your falling debris was much smaller...
lol guestimate failIt's really not a guestimate, it's impossibly light and under-cut.
Sephiroth uses his mastery of magic & casts death which causes instant death.Link's protected and Ganon's magic is more powerful. Also, this has never worked on the infinitely weakr Cloud... HM!?
No wait he puts up his shield which makes him invenurable for a limited amount of time.Great, he can fly around like an ass for a few seconds before he dies... Ohwait, it doesn't stop him getting BFR'd.
No wait he completely stops them in time.All well and good, considering he can't actually hurt team 2.
Nah maybe he should just silence Ganon and make him fight like a real man.Brilliant! make the guy who can chuck thousand ton pillars with ease fist-fight you.
Or of course Vincent just shoots themNo destructive feat good enough to hurt them.
You done?