Sephiroth, Kratos, and Kain v.s. Samus Aran and MewTwo

Started by LLLLLink20 pages

No, I'm admitting that Kain is a sucky, slow, weak character and that Mewtwo destroys him with a thought because Kain has already shown in his fight against Raziel that he cant stand up to the weakest of psychic blasts.

Yeah speed isnt a quality for Kain to boast over.

Kain is (if even) peak human speed.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
No, I'm admitting that Kain is a sucky, slow, weak character and that Mewtwo destroys him with a thought because Kain has already shown in his fight against Raziel that he cant stand up to the weakest of psychic blasts.

Kain has never been hit by a psychic "blast" in canon.

Originally posted by Burning thought

By logic: M2 TKing; a person>a basket. Kain; turns to mist<mist regen. Difference being Kain is doing something 'above' what's been shown.

Maybe thats a possibility, not going into that, but M2 didnt move them to get to one of those areas. He just moved them so the centre was his castle-thing as there were already clouds there. Also if he was carry out his plan to make a hurricane to wipe out life then then he would have to manipulate them to form more clouds to do this. As moving clouds via wind cannot make the sufficient amount of clouds, nor would there be the right conditioned air around the world to move the clouds into to form a hurricane of that magnitude.

Why would he move again? The attributes of fear and panic kick in. If youve been grabbed youre gonna keep trying to escape, unfortunately he could not. Mewtwo at the clone vs pkmn part: ''I will block all the Pokemon's special abilities using my psychic powers...'' and all 50 pkmn were limited to only physical blows. Shows the level of power and control in the move.

You keep saying a 3/5cm tear through an organ is 'small' :/ Watch again, the sharp fast blade pierced his heart, then he stood up in a slow jerky manner to make the thicker and more jagged hilt rip through him. Kain repaired only the right chest and small part of the abdominal muscles and a few ribs, and didnt do the best job at healing the skin. Seeing as there was a scar on him it leads me to believe this is showing that his regen feats are limited to the amount of damage he has. The measurements i got from that video. I measured 3 longsword replicas grip diameter to 3-4cm, at 0:51 i saw that the size was larger then when i held the grips (and Dantes a tall guy so you know that handle is big) so that's around 5-6cm. At 0:16 you can see that the guard is thicker then the handle with the 'wings' being half the thickness of it. So the 'wings' are 2.5-3cm and the centre around 10cm thick. Easier to just say 3/5cm and not 2/10cm. Fist size being 8cm thick, Raz may be bigger. Dunno how tall he is or the size of his fist.

What attacks did you see being used on the barrier? And when did they fall? From watching the movie besides the last offensice attack the barriers never were never destroyed. Yeah he turned it off then, why would he want to keep it up while they were talking? Next time he created another barrier was 3mins later so it'd be pointless to have it up for that whole time.

...For the love of... Me saying 'show proof that magic>barrier' stems off you saying 'barrier cant defend against magic'. And your '...just because we havnt seen them' part can be easily referred to when you said ''not to mension its never protected against magic''. In this magic/barrier for feat we have magic as an offensive that has not hit a 'shield' and barrier as a defence that has defended for alot of powerful energy attacks. If anyone its you that has to show feats to why his magic can bypass his barrier.

And again im waiting for justifiable proof that it can do what you say. If its something the character has not been shown doing but you think that with PowerA+PowerB can =PowerD then you would need to show undeniable proof to support this. Just turning into mist is not enough.

To start off, of the two of us im not the one to be accused of reaching, facts and proof is not reaching. And if you can see a part where resistance was made id like to see it, weak or not these no reason to not try.

Ive discussed with others that the biology of the pokemon would make learning human tongue extremely difficult as their mouths are shaped differently so making new sounds would take alot of practice. Its something pkmn dont need, but if one decide to they loose there natual abilities. (Like Meowth being very weak as a pkmn now.) I checked again and its 5k. Im sorry if anatomy isnt good for you, if its not stated 100% you have to go to a scientific/logical reason :/ Who said they're saying it in human? Show me something that has less then a child's IQ that can understand complex commands a person is saying to you, and respond back among all the other higher levelled intelligence shown throughout the show. If a dolphin can understand a few basic commands after a lot of training and have an IQ of around 80 then its obvious the average pkmn is higher then that.

Several 'draining' moves from taking energy to eating dreams, a hypnosis is a mind control and countess 'energy' attacks. But is in the end still a flame, and it would have to be very powerful to have an effect. And the breaking and countering are things Kain cannot do, being physically weaker then M2s TK. Can bring the spoon into play if he really needs a physical hit.

Not assuming, it will miss. Now that hes out of the area his teleport speed is now at Kains (without startup). Best showing this is Mew teleporting from the shadowballs. You made one huge mistake there, using the word 'moves' as plural. He was hit only once in the whole movie, his own fault for letting his guard down, but it was only once. This succeeds in comparison to Kain getting hit by a move that was way slower and way more obvious then the counter/shadowball.

Urm yeah... its a fight, the enemy coming for you is whats supposed to happen. As the odds are against him being 3v2 watching your back like that is a given.

I concede this argument.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I concede this argument.

What the hell have you done to BT, mister?

I think it was Q, it started in another thread. 😐 Frankly, I'm confused.

Oh my god i broke BT!!! O___O;;;

Not necessarily. Could just be that his patience is wearing thin.

Few not my fault then. So until/if he makes a comeback; Team 2 wins.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
No, I'm admitting that Kain is a sucky, slow, weak character and that Mewtwo destroys him with a thought because Kain has already shown in his fight against Raziel that he cant stand up to the weakest of psychic blasts.

Actually, Raziel's TK blast was so strong that he blasted Kain through the barrier between dimensions.

Did he not blast him through a portal?

Yeah it was already behind him before he got hit.

By the words of Amy Herring that was a representation of the "weakness" between dimensoins which allowed Kain to be tossed through.

Blood if you want to continue this argument I will do so now. If not then thats fine.

If I remember right you already conceded 😛

I did indeed, I revoke it if Blood wants to argue some more, if he doesnt then ill leave it be.

Fair enough.

Thats just the problem my curry and mushroom sauce I dont

enough, therefore I dont really get your point?

I think I gave you my condition. haermm