Ganondorf v.s. Cloud

Started by Ridley_Prime19 pages

Originally posted by fortinbross
The "all" in the american version of Omnislash actually means it is able to penetrate anything by the way.

Anything in the Final Fantasy universe, that is. Ganon is not part of that universe, and assuming it applies to the Zelda universe as well (and all other video game universes) is a no-limits fallacy.

I really rather doubt thats what it stood for. There is no book or source that said it was called that. But Omnislash does have the potential to cut through anything.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Anything in the Final Fantasy universe, that is. Ganon is not part of that universe, and assuming it applies to the Zelda universe as well (and all other video game universes) is a no-limits fallacy.

According to that theory i can also say that Ganon can only die by the MS in his universe and anything in the FF7 universe.

Don't be saying that kind of stuff, it doesn't take place in either universe.

Ganon's invulnerability is turned off in debates anyway. 😐

But yeah, one universe's rules do not over-rule another's. Omnislash can't cut trhough the door of time, for example.

Originally posted by fortinbross
According to that theory i can also say that Ganon can only die by the MS in his universe and anything in the FF7 universe.

Don't be saying that kind of stuff, it doesn't take place in either universe.


Exactly! Saying Ganon can only be killed by the MS is a no limits fallicy... Still dosn't mean that Omnislash is going to do anything to him though. He freakin tanked a blow that destroyed a castle... And walked away completley unharmed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ganon's invulnerability is turned off in debates anyway. 😐

But yeah, one universe's rules do not over-rule another's. Omnislash can't cut trhough the door of time, for example.

That's kinda what i have been trying to tell people the entire time.
But still, the fact is it has the potential to cut through anything. Meaning that no matter what way you look at it, it is going to do something to ganon. You HAVE to take that into consideration.

Originally posted by fortinbross
But still, the fact is it has the potential to cut through anything. Meaning that no matter what way you look at it, it is going to do something to ganon. You HAVE to take that into consideration.

You are still using that no limits fallacy... lol.

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Yea but it isn't like it's going to do nothing to Ganon. It may not do much but it has to do something. Get what i'm saying? Becuase when ganon took the hit from the castle he was invulnerable due to his universes no limit fallicy about the MS. See what im saying?

Yea but it isn't like it's going to do nothing to Ganon. It may not do much but it has to do something. Get what i'm saying? Becuase when ganon took the hit from the castle he was invulnerable due to his universes no limit fallicy about the MS. See what im saying?
Annnd what about the video I posted of a character capable of chucking thousand ton pillars with relative ease stabbing him in the face with a weapon he's vulnerable to four times?

Originally posted by fortinbross
Yea but it isn't like it's going to do nothing to Ganon. It may not do much but it has to do something. Get what i'm saying? Becuase when ganon took the hit from the castle he was invulnerable due to his universes no limit fallicy about the MS. See what im saying?

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Not how it works at all. The no limits fallicy is that only the MS and Light/Silver arrows can hurt him. Anything he survives is fair game. Thus he is capable of tanking the blow that destroyed the castle. Get what i'm saying?

Didn't we have a talk about limitations?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Annnd what about the video I posted of a character capable of chucking thousand ton pillars with relative ease stabbing him in the face with a weapon he's vulnerable to four times?

You got ignored, lololol. But yeah, Ganon's durability is legit.

Originally posted by ares834
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Not how it works at all. The no limits fallicy is that only the MS and Light/Silver arrows can hurt him. Anything he survives is fair game. Thus he is capable of tanking the blow that destroyed the castle. Get what i'm saying?

Didn't he survive the castle only to this ability? Listen to what you just said, it doesn't make sense. If he can only be hurt by the MS and light/silver arrows (which doesn't come into play here) then of course he can take a hit from the castle because he can only be hurt by the MS and Silver/Light arrows. What you said does not make sense.

Originally posted by fortinbross
Didn't he survive the castle only to this ability? Listen to what you just said, it doesn't make sense. If he can only be hurt by the MS and light/silver arrows (which doesn't come into play here) then of course he can take a hit from the castle because he can only be hurt by the MS and Silver/Light arrows. What you said does not make sense.

What I'm saying is that he is that durable. The only things that we have seen so far that can hurt him in the Zelda verse are the arrows and the MS. Now to say that those are the only things to hurt in all universes him is the no limits fallicy. But he is durable enough to tank the attack that destroys the castle. Thus unless Cloud's omnislash can explode castles I don't see it affecting Ganon.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Annnd what about the video I posted of a character capable of chucking thousand ton pillars with relative ease stabbing him in the face with a weapon he's vulnerable to four times?

Bump.

Since I see Cloud being kinda debated again, I wanna see if there's still anyone who thinks he can beat Ganon without a plot device. Let the fanboy RAGE continue!

I give Ganondorf the win who, unlike Sephiroth, isn't going to fool around and let him win.

CIS-ephiroth 🙄