Ganondorf v.s. Cloud

Started by K1ll3r19 pages
Originally posted by fortinbross
He got Supernova from the Jenova cells inside of him. It was a transfered trait through genetics. Even says so in the book. So it a sense she "gave" it to him, not literaly, figuratively.

What book says this? (Just give me the name) Supernova isn't a trait. Jenova had Mimic \ Mime, Regeneration, TK not Supernova.

If that is true, then technically Cloud also would have had Supernova.

The FF7: Comentaries says it, I believe the Ultimania Omega does too.

I don't beleive Cloud posesses enough of Jenova's Genetic Material? I don't know because you have a good point.

I do know it was passed somehow through Jenova.

Originally posted by fortinbross
The FF7: Comentaries says it, I believe the Ultimania Omega does too.

I don't beleive Cloud posesses enough of Jenova's Genetic Material? I don't know because you have a good point.

I do know it was passed somehow through Jenova.

I think it means because he is the perfect melding of Jenova and Human, that he was able to soak in mako for a much longer time then everyone else allowing him to be much more powerful, powerful enough to come up with Supernova.

Alright.
Cloud can not be "killed by a bullet" because yazoo shoots cloud inthe head and all it does is nic the eyebrow hair of his left eye.
As for this unbeatable ***, you all talk so highly about, as ifyou slept with him or something. I know nothing about him.
But i know a hellva lot about ff vii. And in AC cloud effortlessly slices through steel. So this guy destroying a castle doesnt do anything for me, because im pretty sure one omislash and cloud could do the exact same thing.
And as for the sephy talk. The first form of sephy is useless. His second form is still useless.
Now in AC he never went to full power.
And if you look, while cloud is doing his whole 6 sword limit. Sephy doesnt move. He cant move. Its apart of the limit.
Now as for clouds speed.
He isF*ucking lightning!
Now for the supernova talk.
Im not even sure why your talkingabout it. Cloud cant use it! Thats sephy's move.
Also about the wounding of the such. Sephy wanted to wound the planet so that he could converge with the lifestream to become a "god" and surf the cosmos destroying anything in his path.
Now im not saying cloud is unbeatable. Because he got stabbed by sephy in AC. But did you see his regen?!? He got right up and wooped his ass!
Now for the "death" magic BS cloud could simply junction a (saying all materia is mastered) elemental=destroy materia combo. On top of that. Saying you can access all of the ff gear. One ribbon. And that one armlet.(thats a mans armlet) with the right stuff elementally set. And cloud is unstoppable to all elements.
Oh and that whole destroys castle. thing. Yeah.... cloud can slice through a peice of steel 20x his size. So again. Not impressive.
And all this sephy talk got me thinking. Ruby weapon was 40x stronger than all three stages of sephy, byfar.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cause it totally worked on Sephiroth. /Eyeroll. Conversely, Ganon has death curses too, and could just cast one on Cloud, who has no resistance to it. 😬

So yeah... Cloud as nothing that can touch Ganon. /thread.


Your gay. Cloud ftw!

Now i need a cig.

Hey look, ANOTHER Cloud fanboy.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Hey look, ANOTHER Cloud fanboy.

Gotta problem with it?

Yes. Read the thread.

Too bad. Andi already did.

You already said you don't know anything about Ganon, so you clearly didn't already read the thread.

Cloud doesn't regenerate. he was still in embracing the pain of the assraping Seph was giving him.

No. I did. I just didnt care about that. I sawthat cloud was being neglected in his feats. So i wanted to past them.

What feats? He doesn't have any that even matter here.

Jesus. Can we PLEASE stop acting like Ganondorf doesn't effortlessly stomp Cloud? Cloud gets banished. Unless any of you can find a way for Cloud to escape, this thread was, is, and will forever be over.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Cloud gets banished.

You guys have yet to show any proof of this.

Case A, Twilight Realm: Ganon doesn't banish Link into it.

Case B, Phantom Ganon: Ganon banished something that was defeated \ dieing and it was his own creation!

Clearly he could seal anyone he wanted into the gap between dimensions at any time he wanted in a combat situation. 🙄

Originally posted by K1ll3r
You guys have yet to show any proof of this.

Case A, Twilight Realm: Ganon doesn't banish Link into it.

Wasn't he banished by Zant while under Ganondorf's possession?

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Wasn't he banished by Zant while under Ganondorf's possession?

I am not aware of this, the very first time he finds the portal and a wierd fiend monster thing pulls Link into it (With an arm and hand).

When Ganon had possessed Aghanim he banished a bunch of people to his Dark World(aka Sacred Realm). Where they changed shape because of Ganon's power.

^ Nice reference, Cyner.

Also, wasn't it made clear that the Master Sword protects Link from such thing as banishment and form-altering? That's why Ganondorf didn't banish or TK him.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
^ Nice reference, Cyner.

Also, wasn't it made clear that the Master Sword protects Link from such thing as banishment and form-altering? That's why Ganondorf didn't banish or TK him.

hmm... Ganon's never thrown him into another dimension beyond that instance. Maybe he should give it another try 😛

Also in ALttP it was the Moon Pearl that protected him from the form altering instead of the Master Sword like in TP.