Ganondorf v.s. Cloud

Started by Maester_yoda19 pages

.......then give your reasons why cloud would win......

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
facepalm......give your reasons then mr cloud fanboy

I am not a Cloud fanboy. I honestly don't care. But if you guys need examples of reasons, I'll oblige. KoR can take down countless bosses in one shot. His Ultima weapon is at full strength when he is healthy and since he is starting the fight that way, he can deal a few good hits it. Granted Ganon most likely wouldn't stand still for this, but hey I'm just saying if Cloud's likely to just let Ganon TK him like you make it seem like he would, Ganon doesn't mind to just get hit either. They are fighting. They aren't having a hit the shoulders contest, in which case Ganon would win.

KoR can be summoned on Ganondorf all day to no avail. Why?
Because the Master Sword is the only thing that can defeat him. Does Cloud have the Master Sword? No.

Its as simple as that.

And in Smash Brothers, anyone can defeat Ganon. Now I'm not using Ganon's skills in those games as canon, but since its a cross over ( like Ganon vs Cloud) the rule " Can only be defeated by the master sword" is irrelevant.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
KoR can be summoned on Ganondorf all day to no avail. Why?
Because the Master Sword is the only thing that can defeat him. Does Cloud have the Master Sword? No.

Its as simple as that.

That is turned off for vs debates and you know it.

Regardless, Cloud lacks substantial feats to harm Ganondorf.

The Cloud wanking in this thread is more ridiculous than expected, but I guess I'm not surprised at the same time.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
That is turned off for vs debates and you know it.

Regardless, Cloud lacks substantial feats to harm Ganondorf.

Yes, I knew that. Also, summons count as outside help.

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And in Smash Bros, that can hardly be called Ganondorf.
He's a midget. With no powers :/

Sephiroth didn't use TK against Cloud, Clouds First Tsurugi protects him from evil and tk.

😛

/facepalm

Isn't that the same 'logic' used to deduce that the Master Sword protects from TK?

No.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Isn't that the same 'logic' used to deduce that the Master Sword protects from TK?

no that was you attempting to pull a quick one and failed miserably....the master sword is arguably one of the toughest and most magical sword in games.....

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
That is turned off for vs debates and you know it.

Regardless, Cloud lacks substantial feats to harm Ganondorf.

Its turned off in any debate, its a no limit fallacy based on one universe, sort of like how Kain as the scion of balance cannot be defeated at all in his universe is ignored in games vs.

No, its more likely the other way round as Ganon cannot physically "hit" Cloud who is too fast.

I have also heard that Omnislash is fast attack that happens in the blink of an eye or something, if that is true then Ganon loses speed, and his head, and possibly his soul if it attacks the spirit like FF buffs claim.

Was I talking to you? No. Come back when you aren't an idiot.

I dont care who your talking to, if your talking nonsense then Ill correct it if I find it in my time, you should thank me for helping your statement and correcting it.

You liar. You CAN read. So why don't you do it when I actually put an argument up?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Yes, I knew that. Also, summons count as outside help.

^

And in Smash Bros, that can hardly be called Ganondorf.
He's a midget. With no powers :/


And no sword. uhuh

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Sephiroth didn't use TK against Cloud, Clouds First Tsurugi protects him from evil and tk.

😛


Plot devices like those do not apply here though, and as someone else stated, is a no-limits fallacy.

Ganon most defiantly has the strength to hurt Cloud but again this is irrelevant unless he can catch him. And Ganon, in crossover canon, is slow. Cloud does not have as much strength as Ganon, but I don't believe a couple hits from the buster sword wouldn't work.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You liar. You CAN read. So why don't you do it when I actually put an argument up?

I answer almost all arguments, just not foolishness.

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
And Ganon, in crossover canon, is slow.

Brawlcrap and the other crossovers don't count. Ganon in the Zelda games is considerably faster and in titles like OoT, he can fly/float around to his heart's content, so he doesn't even need to run to catch up to Cloud.

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
Cloud does not have as much strength as Ganon, but I don't believe a couple hits from the buster sword wouldn't work.

The only way he could take down Ganon with the buster sword would be if he were to PIS his way to victory, but again, such plot devices do not apply here.