Ganondorf v.s. Cloud

Sounds like the MS, Ganon's only weakness (yeah I know that's turned off, not the point). He tanks beatings from this sword in every game before finally going down. Factor in Link's ridiculous strength and Ganon takes insane amounts of damage.

KoR can kill Safer Sephy after about 2 hits and he blew up several planets. Is that sufficient for a feat? Bahamuts blow up portions of land when they attack, with Bahamut ZERO blowing up a crap load. Is that a good enough feat?

Why can't he harm him with "the building feat"? If I can take a sword and slash him with it, I'm sure it would work the same for Cloud.

When protected by Holy so does Cloud.

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
KoR can kill Safer Sephy after about 2 hits and he blew up several planets. Is that sufficient for a feat? Bahamuts blow up portions of land when they attack, with Bahamut ZERO blowing up a crap load. Is that a good enough feat?

Why can't he harm him with "the building feat"? If I can take a sword and slash him with it, I'm sure it would work the same for Cloud.

Supernova isn't a real attack it is an allusion.
Its an attack givin to him by Jenova, To simulate the force of a real Supernova.

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
KoR can kill Safer Sephy after about 2 hits and he blew up several planets. Is that sufficient for a feat? Bahamuts blow up portions of land when they attack, with Bahamut ZERO blowing up a crap load. Is that a good enough feat?

Why can't he harm him with "the building feat"? If I can take a sword and slash him with it, I'm sure it would work the same for Cloud.

Well, Safer Seph blowing up planets has nothing to do with his durability. And KoR blowing up planets would have to be shown.

Bahamut sounds too weak.

And Cloud can't just slash him with the sword because he doesn't have the strength to actually hurt Ganon.

Really? Not the strength? Yes he does by far actually considering Cloud at his peak is much stronger than link. Cloud at his peak destroyed an entire army of "super humans" if you want to call them that, no way to really decribe them.

How is that a strength feat?

You said he wouldn't be able to harm Ganon, So i told you how he would if he could do all this. And considering buildings are made of Titanium which is much harder than someone skin like Ganon, you have to put the "building feat" into play here.

So the durability angle is the one your going for? Fair enough. KoR no matter how you look at it, its still 13 giant knights hitting you or casting magic on you, dealing loads of damage. Since the MS rule is ruled out in vs fights, what your saying is Links swings with his sword is far more powerful than 13 huge guys hitting you?

Bahamut isn't really a good summon. If you have KoR, you're never likely to use it again. But a feat is a feat.

Cloud is a fairly strong individual. I'm pretty sure he can hit hard.

Plus Bahamut Zero is half the size of the planet itself...

No, fool, Ganon's immunity to anything except the MS is ruled out in vs fights. All of his feats involving the MS still stand.

No... They are from completly different universes, Who's to say not ONE other thing in different univeres could kill him, Holy would basically be the equivalent of MS its sole purpose to destroy evil.

Do you not realize that Link is retardedly strong? Just think about it for a while, let it sink in.

lol It's become even more clear to me now that Cloud's only hope of winning is via PIS or some plot device. Otherwise, Ganon rapes.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No, fool, Ganon's immunity to anything except the MS is ruled out in vs fights. All of his feats involving the MS still stand.

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That in no way makes since. You can still hurt him in the game without the sword, or at the very least stun him. You can't kill him without it but you can hurt him. The Biggoron's Sword is stronger than the Master sword so clearly anything the master sword does more effectively against Ganon is because of the rule, which is dismissed here.

Link isn't as "retardedly" strong as you think. If you put BOTH games into the same perspective Cloud was much stronger than link. And Ridley Prime thats the only reason link won too.

Well of course Link is strong. His gauntlets probably put him past Cloud in terms of strength ( though really not that much). But there is a limit to how strong he is. If Link were that strong, why bother with dungeons? Just punch through the walls til you get to the end. -_-

Originally posted by fortinbross
Link isn't as "retardedly" strong as you think. If you put BOTH games into the same perspective Cloud was much stronger than link. And Ridley Prime thats the only reason link won too.

I've still yet to see any strength feat that puts Cloud anywhere close to Link. And good luck finding it. 👆

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
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That in no way makes since. You can still hurt him in the game without the sword, or at the very least stun him. You can't kill him without it but you can hurt him. The Biggoron's Sword is stronger than the Master sword so clearly anything the master sword does more effectively against Ganon is because of the rule, which is dismissed here.

That is what you call a gameplay mechanic. It doesn't hold water.

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Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
Well of course Link is strong. His gauntlets probably put him past Cloud in terms of strength ( though really not that much). But there is a limit to how strong he is. If Link were that strong, why bother with dungeons? Just punch through the walls til you get to the end. -_-

Again, a Gameplay Mechanic.

It doesn't have to do with "strength feat" It has to do with both as a whole. Cloud didn't show strength feats because it wasn't nessasary in this game. He had peices of Jenova inside of him though.
Jenova being REDICULOUSLY powerful.

So Cloud is stronger even though he has no feats to support that. Awesome.