I think the ability to stroll through three posts of debating, reply to something in every post, and counter absolutely nothing is somewhat remarkable.
Originally posted by darthgoober
[b]Errors in our precieved prep.1. We're not giving Doom half of Surfer's power, we're giving him about 10% of it. [/b]
A convenient claim to make now.
You didn't show a sharing of cosmic awareness. You showed Surfer concentrating for a few seconds, and showing Thing a mental image.
A few seconds = 1 solitary image.
How many seconds = the details of everything Surfer knows regarding everything Power Cosmic, and his knowledge of the Eternals and Sersi?
Since his sharing takes up only about a third of the 10 seconds, we can assume that Blair and Goob have extrapolated the ability to concentrate and share a mental image, to mean that Surfer can basically transmit the details of his history since becoming Galactus' herald, with what, one more second?
Hahaha.
Originally posted by darthgoober
2. Our sunlamps aren't "mini suns" they're sunlamps
Fair enough, though that isn't what you said in your post.
You're right though, the power to create a lamp would be trivial. The reason being that the power that a lamp outputs is absolutely trivial.
They say the sun gives out every second about the amount of energy that mankind is estimated to have output up to this point.
Can you imagine how many lamps that is, constantly, all over the earth? And that accounts for an incredibly small fraction of a percent of what mankind uses every second.
The energy required to fuel kryptonians is so ridiculously higher than what's output by a household light. I mean, seriously? Why do you think it takes energy drainers so long to suck the energy out of Clark's cells? Why do you think that kryptonian power increases as exposure to the sun does, through a sundip?
The energy that a blue sun outputs would be even more, and you're suggesting to create both.
Please, if you have proof that a few watts will power planet pushers, feel free to share. Otherwise, let's accept that the kryptonian element of your plan is a dud, and move on.
Originally posted by darthgoober
1. Surfer's telepathy- He has it...
You need to show three things:
1. That Surfer can transfer his own memories and experiences, as well as accessing those of others, with enough clarity that the recipient can alter his behaviour and learning as if he himself experienced these things, thus allowing for the recipients of his powers to not kill themselves with the powers you've given them
2. That he can quickly and easily filter through years of data in both his head and others to be able to exchange relevant information without wading through irrelevant memories
3. That he can do both of the above things with the third of the 10 seconds that you've allotted him.
You have yet to prove any of these things. I brought up these points previously, and you posted more bushleague telepath feats.
It's akin to me showing Juggernaut punching somebody, then claiming that he has the martial prowess of Captain America.
Ten seconds is not a lot of time to work with. 5 minutes would be lots for most telepaths, but you have yet to post any feat of merit.
True, he's even glancing through someone's memories in those scans, but you can even tell by the depiction that he's not experiencing those things, only watching her experience them.
I could read 1000 superman comics, it doesn't mean I'd have any skill with kryptonian powers if I got them tomorrow. I haven't actually experienced anything, despite watching Clark experience them from birth.
Originally posted by darthgoober
2. Doom as a Cosmic Kryptonian.
We already covered how you won't be able to actually use Doom's nonexistant kryptonian powers, due to not being able to power them up and not being able to transfer any memories to Doom, but I suppose nothing is stopping you from wasting even more time turning him kryptonian.
So, let's hash out why this, like every other item in your prep, will take significantly longer than you estimate.
You've taken scans, such as Eradicator telling a story that took place over what appeared to be a couple of days maybe, and assumed that a freeze frame of one action- turning the rock into a body- wouldn't take much time, despite the lack of indication of time. You've shown many transmutation feats that took longer than 15 seconds, and one that took less, and it was performed by Surfer, not Eradicator. Surfer may not even have the necessary knowledge since there's no actual telepath on your team to transfer that knowledge.
Other than that, it appeared in the scan to be as if Eradicator actually got the transmutation wrong- he said something was wrong with the eyes?- I may be reading that wrong, but it's a point that has yet to be addressed.
You've already claimed that your telepathy transfer will take ten seconds, which is clearly false.
You've also claimed that Doom can invent five devices he's not once shown before, that are far superior to devices he already owns, within the space of two minutes.
I haven't even gotten into how you've claimed that you're going to completely rewrite and remodel a kryptonian doomsday device in 30 seconds, or how you are going to outfit your entire team with ridiculous defenses in 30 seconds, based off of scans that all take longer than that.
The point is that you're already running incredibly short on time. You've also diverted Surfer's power and stripped Doom of his armor, which will all only hinder your efforts.
There is absolutely no way you're going to fit in all those things, and find time to do this, based on little to no evidence that you can accomplish it in any short amount of time.
Originally posted by darthgoober
4. Surfer's power reserves
I only really attacked his power reserves when you claimed to be pouring the energies of two suns into Doom's armor.
Now that you've rescinded that claim, and we've accepted that the kryptonian powers will simply remain dormant for the match, the big drains on his powers are simply that you're giving part to Doom (useless, now that he has no armor or alien powers), and that you're attempting to transmute everything within sight, create black holes, etc.
I'll let the judges decide exactly how taxed he is- we do know for certain that he's more taxed than any one of our team members though, who are all wielding fully charged power rings.
Originally posted by darthgoober
1. You need proof of Doom knowing how to create energy absorbers?
Hey, I don't need proof that Doom can make an energy absorber.
I need proof that in a few seconds Doom can draw up the plans for a device that can absorb any energy, ever.
Or, barring that, that he has devices to absorb any energy, ever.
You see, if he is missing types of energy, we'll know immediately- we're auto-synched with every element of tech on this battlefield. It'll be no problem for us to instantly know what you're missing, and auto-adapt with any of our power sets for whatever energy you're not looking out for.
Originally posted by darthgoober
2. The guy who's attack Doom's device stopped is the Overmind...
So you've proven capable of blocking a manifested bolt of mental energy from the Overmind.
When you don't have a physical target to hold up your device against, as Doom does in the picture, you'll be SOL. Sersi doesn't even bother with physically manifested mental energy most of the time- her specialty is illusions, and she's fully capable of any sort of psychic intrusion.
Originally posted by darthgoober
3. Did you not see everyone who got effected by Doom's machine?
Right, different physiologies which Doom would know about and prep for, I would assume. It's Doom. Prep is his thing.
There's absolutely nothing shown to indicate that it works on every being, ever. Especially since by this point you already claim to have manifested psychic blockers. I assume this device would have a way around your blockers, if any judge actually believes that there scan blocks anything other than a mental bolt of energy. If you did somehow make mental blockers, and this device works around them, then we, through out tech-tapping, would know that method around immediately.
Originally posted by darthgoober
4. Forcefields are pretty standard. .. Doom could modify one to mess with MOST types of force fields with some help from his teamates and Kryptonian speed.
First, let me remind you that speed in no way extends the prep time. So kryptonian speed doesn't aid here.
Further more- Doom did twice make a device to take down a type of forcefield. They were two different devices, with different methods specifically picked for different forcefields.
So congrats. Had we drafted the guy in the first scan, or Sue Storm, you may have had something.
But we didn't, and it's ridiculous to assess based off of those scans that Doom, in a few seconds, can invent a device to negate every forcefield, ever. We'll have kryptonian, Oan, Qwardian, war world, apokalyptian, earthling and god knows what other tech at our disposal. And, thanks to our technopathy, we'll immediately know what type of forcefields will and won't work. It's a non-issue.
Originally posted by darthgoober
5. I can see how people might question this one
Well, that's at least one issue that you can admit is a little far-fetched. Now let's work on the other 20.
