Re: Rocky vs Holmes
Originally posted by steverules_2
This is rocky from rocky 3 after his training from apollo vs Sherlock Holmes from the new movie so this Robert Downey Jr. The fight takes place in the same ring where Rocky beat Clubber Lang, In Rockys Corner is Apollo and in Holmes' corner is Dr. Watson, 15 rounds unless of course there is a knock out.Who wins?
So..,is this a boxing match or a bare knuckle (anything thing goes) grudge match?
If it's a boxing match Holmes gets knocked out by round 2. If this is a bare knuckle, anything goes match then i say Rocky still wins 9 times out of 10. This is Rocky when he was in the greatest shape of his life. Rocky was at the peak of his skills here. He was blistering fast and deadly powerful. Holmes fought for fun...,Rocky is a professional fighter.I really don't think Holmes showcased any type of fighting ability that even makes this fight legitimate. Yeah, when he had sufficient time he could plot out a plan of attack by applying his advanced knowledge in biology but all professional fighters are masters of biology when it comes to knowing how hurt people.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Is it just me, or is Rocky gimped in scenario two?
Why? Does Rocky lose his speed, skill, strength and advanced knowledge and experience in fighting?
We really can't say that one scenario or movie is more realistic than the other.
Unless we have a calculated recording of exactly how powerful each punch thrown in a Rocky movie is then it still stands that the Rocky movies are just as realistic as Sherlock Holmes. It's a movie, belief has to be suspended to a certain point and each movie blatantly exaggerates reality. Just because Holmes uses an advanced vocabulary to describe his fighting tactics doesn't make it more realistic. Rocky received brain damage and Apollo Creed died in a boxing match through out the Rocky franchise. That's realistic, isn't it?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Downey looked about 10lbs lighter than Stallone. Stallone wasn't anywhere close to 200lbs until his last Rambo.So, if we go by the faux measurement system from the Rocky films, Downey weighed 180-190. 😐
Just for fun, Rocky weighed 196 pounds in his first fight against Clubber Lang
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxHe loses his inhuman damage soak.
Why? Does Rocky lose his speed, skill, strength and advanced knowledge and experience in fighting?We really can't say that one scenario or movie is more realistic than the other.
Unless we have a calculated recording of exactly how powerful each punch thrown in a Rocky movie is then it still stands that the Rocky movies are just as realistic as Sherlock Holmes. It's a movie, belief has to be suspended to a certain point and each movie blatantly exaggerates reality. Just because Holmes uses an advanced vocabulary to describe his fighting tactics doesn't make it more realistic. Rocky received brain damage and Apollo Creed died in a boxing match through out the Rocky franchise. That's realistic, isn't it?
lol what damage soak? yeah, the film may have focused on a few beating scenes for to long or lingered on a countdown, but that's the movie trying to express determination and willpower. I wasn't considering those moments because i know they're bullshit. I'm just saying for all we know, Sherlock Holmes just makes shit up as he goes along. Rocky is a goddamn professional champion.
His damage soak is when he takes countless blows to the jaw and doesn't go down, or suffer a massive aneurysm. In a Rocky setting, Holmes would be giving it all he's got, and Rocky will just keep coming. In a realistic, Holmes like setting. The complexities of Holmes fighting style, and his ruthlessness will give him the win, because Rocky won't be able to keep standing if Holmes caves his skull in for example.
Originally posted by KingD19
His damage soak is when he takes countless blows to the jaw and doesn't go down, or suffer a massive aneurysm. In a Rocky setting, Holmes would be giving it all he's got, and Rocky will just keep coming. In a realistic, Holmes like setting. The complexities of Holmes fighting style, and his ruthlessness will give him the win, because Rocky won't be able to keep standing if Holmes caves his skull in for example.
Complexities...,what complexities?
Have you ever seen a boxing match, sir? I'm here to enlighten you, but boxers take countless blows to the chin, face and body all the time. Holmes wouldn't know what to do in a boxing match. His complexities rely on having preparation time and the advantage of distraction. I think it's much more realistic to believe that a man can go 12 rounds whilst enduring countless blows to the face body and chin because that actually happens all the time. Sherlock Holmes on the other hand is nothing more than a pile of bullshit. He's a Recluse who sits in his house all day drinking booze and he drops experienced fighters in four blows. Yeah...,i ask you, which one do you see or have you heard happening more often in the world of REALISTIC professional fighting?
Holmes has nothing on Rocky. He would bewildered and disoriented when Rocky unleashes a flurry of punches.
What do we know of Rocky? He has incredible stamina, endurance and Strength. He is also a highly skilled and experienced fighter. We know this from a long history and visual feats.----All of this is realistic.
What do we know about Holmes? He knows everything about everyone and can figure anything out with the right applications and concentration. He can street fight and has taken down a few pathetic thugs with proper distraction-------Only one thing here sounds realistic to me and that would be the latter. 😮💨