Originally posted by Battlehammer
I sware if he brings in a blue hulk........
I remember him saying that he has plans about doing that since Blue Hulk is very close to his heart given the fact that his daughter rights those cartoons at the end of each issue.
Originally posted by TheKahn
I know. I was just using it as an example of the common practice of have less popular/more obscure characters (no matter how powerful) job in favor of newer/more popular ones.
Ah sorry then, proceed. 😛
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I remember him saying that he has plans about doing that since Blue Hulk is very close to his heart given the fact that his daughter rights those cartoons at the end of each issue.Ah sorry then, proceed. 😛
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Shouldn't we also wait to see what comes of him discovering his powers before we annoint him the next uber-power in Marvel?It's not like the only thing he did was beat a weaker version of MM, amirite?
All you people are getting your panties in an uproar over nothing. When I say lets wait and see what happens later, thats not me questioning Sentrys or Thors powersets, thats me stating that a fight never even happened in the first place for this debate to even exist.
Thor being tackled and then knocking the Sentry away isnt anything, but yet everybody jumped on the bandwagon that the Sentry isnt this all powerful person that we saw in Dark Avengers 12 because of it. Its typical and as I said, I expected it from this board.
Truthfully, Sentry should be able to just wish thor away and that would be the end of it, but that doesnt make for good comic stories now does it? We all know thats not going to happen so the Sentry is in a no win situation. Even if he beat up Thor the members around here would use that as a negative stating that he wasnt as all powerful as we said he was. I'm used to it and i'm prepared for it.
Originally posted by xJLxKingSentry is the plot device. You just don't want to admit it. You can't have the sentry defeat every threat which comes his way, but I feel most writers come up with an excuse of how to get rid of him or shy away from him during major events like secret invasion.
Owning a herald, sure, that could be possible. Stalemating Galactus was never shown, only stated by Parker, right? And you still seemed to be miss understanding what I was trying to say.Why does a character drop from such a high level and back to what people consider his regular level. It's not the same as DS losing to Batman, Batman had a Plot Device. It's not like Hal having a hard time beating a low-meta, why? Because those are not high drops like what just happened to Sentry. He was very powerful in his fight with MM, and now, he dropped back to MH. It's a HUGE drop, much more then HH to meta.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeIf you take into consideration the sentry's mental status then they have already explained it.
Do you have a single example of a character dropping from killing someone who hovers around Abstract to be taken out by the Human Torch?
Originally posted by Kris BlazeIt's a legit example of inconsistency and don't you dare tell me popularity doesn't play a factor in these things.
The drop from Trans/low Skyfather to low level is actually insane, but still much lower than Sentry's span from Abstract to high meta ish. And the Rulk comics are widely recognized as being complete and utter shit, yet people are being put out because they're calling Sentry's shit?This is a far cry from the incidents where Thor and Superman rise to the occasion and beat someone a notch up on the tier list.
Originally posted by TheKahnExactly. The problem here is people are used to their preconceived notions about the character and this sudden showing scares them. It shows us he wasn't all hype like myself and a few others have always claimed.
Because its not unprecedented. From the beginning they claimed he was able to stalemate Galactus, had him casually owning a herald, and lately had him able to resurrect himself and others instantly. Which of those doesn't scream really frackin' powerful to you?
Originally posted by TheKahn
And yet there are a near infinite number of instances where characters have jobbed for the sake of a storyline -
This is a great statement. The sentry is indeed a character that jobs comic after comic just so a story can be done. Seriously, how many books have they had him run away just so the story can continue? Thats what gets me. People use that against the character all the time. Its frustrating.
Here on KMC, dont all battles have the characters being in top form and using all their powers to their fullest? If so, yes, I think Sentry is above the Supermans and Thors after what I saw from him in the last Avengers comic. Thats the point i'm trying to make.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I just don't see how Thor could even last a panel against the new Sentry without Bob jobbing or Thor using some plot device power. 😬
IMO, I think the Sentry that beat Owen was Void influenced, which would make sense, especially if they're going to build up to Void going apeshit on everyone and causing the Avengers to Assemble and all that jazz. Bob Sentry getting swatted away by Thor makes sense to me in any case. If you notice, you see Sentry's hand glowing before he gets smashed by Mjolnir; perhaps he was trying to forcibily call upon his powers and Thor just interrupted him?
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
who is osborn's secret weapon that he has in case sentry and the avengers fail? I'm guessing it'sSpoiler:
Odin
How? I saw that he was a "possible choice" in a advert, but that seems highly unlikely. If he does indeed show up, I would imagine him being the one to "restore the status quo" if anything and be the mega power to confront Sentry/Void/Osborn badness.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How? I saw that he was a "possible choice" in a advert, but that seems highly unlikely. If he does indeed show up, I would imagine him being the one to "restore the status quo" if anything and be the mega power to confront Sentry/Void/Osborn badness.
as to "how" he returns, I have no idea. Some more of bendis' craziness. mind-control, HAMMER tech, whatever. However my reasoning is because in siege 1 osborn says the backup for the avengers allows them to fight on an equal level with asgard. He later clarifies by saying
Spoiler:. however osborn also makes clear that the avengers have to be the one to win it, as if winning the battle with the secret backup would somehow taint the victory in a particular fashion. Also
"exactly" on their level
Spoiler:
Loki in particular seemed to want no part of the secret weapon when Osborn was confronting Doom in the cabal meeting. logically i'm guessing it's asgardian-related, so perhaps it's Odin or the true Destroyer armor. However doom has his own version of the armor running around in Thor so that would be anti-climatic.
the only thing that i can see putting this into doubt is if the sentry is revealed somehow to be beyonder or a cube being or whatever. If they do that, then how he inevitbly loses to thor will just add to the general bendis craziness.