Originally posted by illadelph12
He doesn't need to be that strong. Fisticuffs aren't Apoc's only options. Just because he's fighting Hulk doesn't mean he has to slather on oil and start Greco-Roman wrestling with him. Apoc has the tools to nullify Hulk's one advantage. He doesn't have to get physical if he doesn't want to.No, it really doesn't.
Strength isn't the determining factor in this match. This is all out combat, not a strongman contest. Hulk being able to lift more is inconsequential.
Not very likely given his teleportation and ability to morph his body. Hulk doesn't have a counter. Nur holds all the mobility cards.
"Likes of Apoc"? Suddenly energy plays favoritism? How about the likes of Cellestial Technology embedded in one's body?
I read the comic bruh. Miek made his confession, Hulk got so pissed his step shook half the US, then he and Sentry had the most misrepresented and anti-climactic battle in the arc. I wasn't that impressed. And honestly, it has no bearing on this scenario. Particularly given that Apoc can always tk him so he's floating in the air and punt him offworld. All his strength doesn't increase his mass beyond Apocalypse's ability to throw it around like a football if need be. Just gotta look at this scenario objectively.
It's not really close.
Like I said in my previous posts the options you have discussed won't defeat the WW Hulk so sooner or later he will close in on him.
It does and you are downplaying the Hulk's strength yet again and going all cbr on me.
If strength were all he brought to the table I'd see your point, but it isn't. He brings with him a healing factor almost second to none. The guy was depowered in his own story so they could break his neck in a tactical fashion yet when his power levels returned he healed from it immediately. A broken neck which was only achieved because he was depowered in the first place.
He will have to stand in one place to attack and Hulk can thunderclap. That's a proven ranged attack he can use.
Apoc creating horsemen and manipulating Celestial tech doesn't mean he can drain all the gamma energy out of the Hulk. A normal hulk he'd have a better chance but not this extremely pissed off Hulk on a mission here.
The whole story was focused around the fact the entire nation along with a lot of heroes were shitting their pants and that they couldn't just easily defeat him save Strange through his magic. He survived adamantium shells and what not ripping through his frame. he had a hole blown through him by Strange, etc. The Sentry cut loose and was the only one who could go toe to toe with WW Hulk imo. The Sentry needed up losing control and wanted to be put down though while Hulk kept his cool the entire time.
WW Hulk crushes him. He grows stronger and apoc has nothing in his arsenal to even remotely give him pause. if Thor's hammer won't bring him down after hours or combat and blows to the head Apoc is just going to piss him off.
Originally posted by Starscream M
lol you amuse me.
This response might have just won the entire debate.