Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Poor reasoning, traveling at speed will have a no affect upon Superman's punching power.Force = Mass X Times acceleration.
So when Superman punches, his fist must be traveling a huge speeds to Increase the force. In other words when ever he punches, his fists are probably moving close to the velocity of his top speed Flight.
you realize all i said was his superspeed makes him punch harder. So how am i wrong?
Originally posted by r0nm0n88
you realize all i said was his superspeed makes him punch harder. So how am i wrong?
You do realize that people less than bor has tagged and one shotted Superman (Despero/Titus). Not using this as a low showing because its not, they are within the power range of one shotting Supes just like bor is.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubtwell most of Borr feats are based on hearsay, we only know how powerful is based on Thor's statements, no?
I think u are exaggerating a lot of this ... A lot of what you have stated is up for interpretation, you are rhetorically making hearsay and narrator claims more poignant than they were meant to be !
Originally posted by Trackz
well most of Borr feats are based on hearsay, we only know how powerful is based on Thor's statements, no?
Tracks, it was pretty obvious on how powerful bor was, you just dont want to accept it.
Answer this, do you think Despero during V&V is powerful?
Do you think Titus is powerful?
Do you think Konvikt is powerful?
Originally posted by carver9
You do realize that people less than bor has tagged and one shotted Superman (Despero/Titus). Not using this as a low showing because its not, they are within the power range of one shotting Supes just like bor is.
you misconstrued what i said, all i said was his superspeed makes his punches harder. Not that he will win, if you look back ive actually said bor wins this rather easily.
My point was people said that superman cant hurt bor, which i replied if supes has 5 free shots bor would feel it, Mainly because when you combine super strength and super speed it creates a large force.
So what you said to me has no relevance to what i was saying.
Originally posted by carver9
So despero can punch thor one time and break his ribs? Its debatable if Despero is even stronger than hulk.
The ribs are one of the easiest bones to break relative to the rest of the skeleton. The only bone I ever broke was a rib during a game, and I've been hit in many different ways playing football and rugby over the years.
Unless Thor was smashed in his ribs, you can't use Despero wrecking Supes ribs as evidence that Bor will do the same. Why would Bor even target Supes' ribs, he didn't target Thor's.
Originally posted by Allankles
The ribs are one of the easiest bones to break relative to the rest of the skeleton. The only bone I ever broke was a rib during a game, and I've been hit in many different ways playing football and rugby over the years.Unless Thor was smashed in his ribs, you can't use Despero wrecking Supes ribs as evidence that Bor will do the same. Why would Bor even target Supes' ribs, he didn't target Thor's.
But he would have killed thor if thor didnt have the odin force, thats what people fail to understand. It wouldnt have been a one shot, ko, he would have literally killed thor with one punch and lets not even name the things that classic thor has taken.
Superman nor any other high herald stands a chance against bor.
Originally posted by Mindset
You just made that up though. 🙁
Yeah, but it has some truth. My ribs got injured badly from a typical tackle, one got broken in fact. In contrast the bones of the legs and arms are much thicker and the sternum is likely only to get bruised in that scenario.
The collar bone can also get injured easily but mostly through dislocation, not out and out breaking. The ribs are just easier to break of the larger bones in the skeleton.
Originally posted by carver9
But he would have killed thor if thor didnt have the odin force, thats what people fail to understand. It wouldnt have been a one shot, ko, he would have literally killed thor with one punch and lets not even name the things that classic thor has taken.Superman nor any other high herald stands a chance against bor.
This is why you can't use crossovers as proof. Thor whether or not he is amped with the OF in his universe, occupies a position similar to Superman in the hierachy of heroes in his universe.
You can't simply use the comparison Thor made to make Bor superior to Supes via association, since Superman himself in his own universe has fought ancient deities, sometimes in groups and won. Since Superman himself gets stronger as he ages, he's not stangant either. If Thor is getting older and more experienced with the OF, Supes is also getting more sturdy and wise.
Bor must have a variety of showings against other similar characters to demonstrate his superiority. Superman has had those demonstrations, he's battled Elder gods and powerful cosmics and prevailed, showing great power and durability in the process, Bor doesn't have that.