Originally posted by Batman-PrimeI get it. You put up smileys while ignoring questions centering around the thread at hand. All I want you to do is explain which showings you are basing this off of. You made a claim and now you are refusing to back it up. I am not demanding scans I just want to hear your reasoning.
dur some people will never get it.
Originally posted by Allankles
And the Mageddon warhead is far more deadly than the destoryers disintegration beams. As I said, Supes is a clutch player. Why people think he's just another top tier after all this years I don't know.
what's with the Maggedon anyway... Sperman did what he did because he absorbed his anti sun energies from what I remember
Originally posted by quanchi112
Without statements how are the writer's supposed to get the messages to the readers?
The point is it has no relevance to anyone but Marvel's Thor. We only put characters on the same level based on their averages. At his high points Superman doesn't have to play by that writers parameters.
Nothing Bor dished out is on the level of an exploding Sun Eater, Mageddon Warhead, matter manipulating power blasts from the Seven Elder Gods, the collision of two galaxy-sized planets or the other great Supes durability feats.
Originally posted by AllanklesWe have seen Thor and Superman go at it. Superman barely won. I say barely because I mean he barely won.
The point it has no relevance to anyone but Marvel's Thor. We only put characters on the same level based on their averages. At his high points Superman doesn't have to play by that writers parameters.Nothing Bor dished out is on the level of an exploding Sun Eater, Mageddon Warhead, matter manipulating power blasts from the Seven Elder Gods, the collision of two galaxy-sized planets or the other great Supes durability feats.
Bor would have killed classic thor meaning classic Thor didn't have a chance to face him without the of. This means a more powerful character with around the same durability couldn't beat him so Superman definitely loses.
I'd like to hear you prove it. You can't and won't. You wank Superman to laughable levels.
You don't seem to have gotten the memo, crossovers don't count. What happens in Marvel is only relevant to Marvel and its characters and vice versa for DC.
Even if the crossover mattered it would still not be particularly favourable to Bor's chances, seeing as how Superman stopped Thor's hammer dead with one hand.
By feats no way Bor gets the majority on Supes.
Originally posted by AllanklesThor is more powerful than Superman either way.
You don't seem to have gotten the memo, crossovers don't count. What happens in Marvel is only relevant to Marvel and its characters and vice versa for DC.Even if the crossover mattered it would still not be particularly favourable to Bor's chances, seeing as how Superman stopped Thor's hammer dead with one hand.
By feats no way Bor gets the majority on Supes.
Red Norvell stopped his hammer before as did Nefaria. 😂
Thor acted completely out of character like he never saw anything like it before. That's my one huge problem with the scene.
We don't just judge by feats. If you want to do so I can send you a link to cbr.
Originally posted by Allankles
You don't seem to have gotten the memo, crossovers don't count. What happens in Marvel is only relevant to Marvel and its characters and vice versa for DC.Even if the crossover mattered it would still not be particularly favourable to Bor's chances, seeing as how Superman stopped Thor's hammer dead with one hand.
By feats no way Bor gets the majority on Supes.
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Thor vs Superman looked like a low showing for both characters if one considers their history. It was short fight and surely not impressive enough.
That Bor could have killed classic Thor with his best shot and that this shot would also down supes is ABC logic at it's finest. Neither in comics nor on vs boards (if feats mean more then "hyperbolic statements"😉 would Bor win against enemies like SS or Superman.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeThey didn't have the time to flesh out and spend more time on just Thor and superman.
👆Thor vs Superman looked like a low showing for both characters if one considers their history. It was short fight and surely not impressive enough.
That Bor could have killed classic Thor with his best shot and that this shot would also down supes is ABC logic at it's finest. Neither in comics nor on vs boards (if feats mean more then "hyperbolic statements"😉 would Bor win against enemies like SS or Superman.
Classic Thor is a peer of Superman's while Thor is more powerful than Superman for one. Secondly, Thor needed part of the odinforce and damaged his hammer in the process against him. We don't need to see ten years of feats to know he's above superman and Thor's paygrade.
Originally posted by Allankles
The point is it has no relevance to anyone but Marvel's Thor. We only put characters on the same level based on their averages. At his high points Superman doesn't have to play by that writers parameters.Nothing Bor dished out is on the level of an exploding Sun Eater, Mageddon Warhead, matter manipulating power blasts from the Seven Elder Gods, the collision of two galaxy-sized planets or the other great Supes durability feats.
The sun eater koed Superman. Stop using the mag feat, there were humans in the background pulling along with Superman; the feat isnt impressive. Galaxy sized planets. 😕 wtf; are you adding to a comic like you always seem to do.
Lets put it like this. People that has taken it to the JLA (titus, despero, konvikt) thor solo people like that and has taken on and defeated people that are equal or more powerful than people that the jla has fallen to or got crushed by.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor is more powerful than Superman either way.Red Norvell stopped his hammer before as did Nefaria. 😂
Thor acted completely out of character like he never saw anything like it before. That's my one huge problem with the scene.
We don't just judge by feats. If you want to do so I can send you a link to cbr.
I know all about cbr. Yes we don't rely on feats alone but we also don't use comparisons that are irrelevant to the match, (Thor's statement had absolutely no relevance to Supes). And we also don't use crossovers ( a crossover that doesn't do much to help Bor's case regardless).
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
👆Thor vs Superman looked like a low showing for both characters if one considers their history. It was short fight and surely not impressive enough.
That Bor could have killed classic Thor with his best shot and that this shot would also down supes is ABC logic at it's finest. Neither in comics nor on vs boards (if feats mean more then "hyperbolic statements"😉 would Bor win against enemies like SS or Superman.
It is ABC logic, which isn't even valid to begin with because they're using a crossover.
Originally posted by Allankles
You don't seem to have gotten the memo, crossovers don't count. What happens in Marvel is only relevant to Marvel and its characters and vice versa for DC.Even if the crossover mattered it would still not be particularly favourable to Bor's chances, seeing as how Superman stopped Thor's hammer dead with one hand.
By feats no way Bor gets the majority on Supes.
By the way allankles, Supes has better feats than everyone that I have named (konvikt, despero, titus, wonderwoman, captain marvel) and the list goes on and I'm pretty sure some of them either defeated him or stalemated him.
Originally posted by AllanklesThor is a peer of superman's with comparable durability. Superman doesn't have the power Thor has to boot.
I know all about cbr. Yes we don't rely on feats alone but we also don't use comparisons that are irrelevant to the match, (Thor's statement had absolutely no relevance to Supes). And we also don't use crossovers ( a crossover that doesn't do much to help Bor's case regardless).
Superman barely beating classic Thor doesn't hurt my case at all. Supes commented on how great a matchup Thor was right before he was overwhelmed. The writer himself admits it could go either way. He also has a lower opinion of Thor than other writers do so with all things being considered I live with it.
Bor beats Superman.
Originally posted by Allankles
I know all about cbr. Yes we don't rely on feats alone but we also don't use comparisons that are irrelevant to the match, (Thor's statement had absolutely no relevance to Supes). And we also don't use crossovers ( a crossover that doesn't do much to help Bor's case regardless).
Didnt amazo take it to the JLA without having any kind of feats backing him up. Didnt an amped solomon grundy crush the jla (including superman) without any feats.
Again, your argument is stupid.