Bor vs Superman

Started by quanchi11230 pages
quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Trackz
supermans feats:
planet explosion:
http://img296.imageshack.us/i/boomsupes22ez.jpg/
he was in the planet when it happened, even if yo uthink he made it off the surface, the force of the planet carries for several hundred thousands of kilometers into space.

tanks a GL blast at full power, he's fine and is even talking to GL:
http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=e00_supeskyle2.jpg

tanks a blast fro msteels entropy aegis armor (power to destroy a city) he does this several times:
http://img219.imageshack.us/i/1018ra.jpg/

the blast sends a plume of gas that leaves the atmosphere, and superman is fine:
http://img450.imageshack.us/i/1563wj.jpg/

takes punches that knock him off the planet (none of bor's hits had this force):
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1863ag.jpg/
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1875nn.jpg/

again:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1880ny.jpg/

http://img515.imageshack.us/i/1928sx.jpg/

hit through the earth:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6682/1967eu.png

punched through by emperor joker, didn't fall unconscious:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2874/2005be.png

this is just going through a little of the respect thread, has OF thor matched these?

Feats don't determine these matchups. I could put up feats of Superman going down to far less. Most of these examples are hyperbole anyways.

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by Warlord
I see Bor didn't sent Thor to orbit so he is not that strong...I guess Blue Marvel is stronger than Bor too...
in terms of physical strength? maybe. Bor has more magical power obviously, bbut we really don't know how physically strong he is

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Trackz
in terms of physical strength? maybe. Bor has more magical power obviously, bbut we really don't know how physically strong he is
We know he's stronger than classic Thor

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats don't determine these matchups. I could put up feats of Superman going down to far less. Most of these examples are hyperbole anyways.
which are hyperbole exactly? Rules say full capacity, why do you keep trying to use low-end feats?

Warlord Yes, I am...

so I guess anytime someone doesn't punch someone to orbit is below Blue Marvel etc level right?

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
We know he's stronger than classic Thor
how was thor able to beat him then? was tho more powerful?faster? If Bor was better all-around Thor wouldn't have stood a chance but they were fighting pretty evenly.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Trackz
how was thor able to beat him then? was tho more powerful?faster? If Bor was better all-around Thor wouldn't have stood a chance but they were fighting pretty evenly.
Because Thor had the partial odinforce.

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by Warlord
so I guess anytime someone doesn't punch someone to orbit is below Blue Marvel etc level right?
give me an example you believe contradicts this? most people in blue marvels strength class have punched people off the planet.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Trackz
how was thor able to beat him then? was tho more powerful?faster? If Bor was better all-around Thor wouldn't have stood a chance but they were fighting pretty evenly.
Did you even read the comic? 😕

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because Thor had the partial odinforce.
so would you say bor was equal to or weaker than OF thor.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Trackz
so would you say bor was equal to or weaker than OF thor.
Tough call. More than classic Thor and around equal to Thor(of). With that being said I think Bor could defeat Thor, but just didn't.

Warlord Yes, I am...
Originally posted by Trackz
give me an example you believe contradicts this? most people in blue marvels strength class have punched people off the planet.

all I'm saying it is that this is not an indicator. one that hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't do it if other feats suggest so...

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindset
Did you even read the comic? 😕
yea, the fight was pretty even until the very end. However, Bor is put on a pedestal as if he is untouchable, if OF thor beat him that means he is in some way weaker than OF Thor, whether it be in strength, speed, or durability i'm not sure. Or possibly they are even, in which case OF Thor vs Current Superman would make a better topic since Bor's lack of feats make this more of a conceptual debate than a factual one.

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by Warlord
all I'm saying it is that this is not an indicator. one that hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't do it if other feats suggest so...
Ok if you believe that can you provide something you believe contradicts the example, someone you believe got hit harder than superman yet went no where.

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by Trackz
yea, the fight was pretty even until the very end. However, Bor is put on a pedestal as if he is untouchable, if OF thor beat him that means he is in some way weaker than OF Thor, whether it be in strength, speed, or durability i'm not sure. Or possibly they are even, in which case OF Thor vs Current Superman would make a better topic since Bor's lack of feats make this more of a conceptual debate than a factual one.

Thor's focused power output was enough to overcome Bor's durability. That's about it. The attack broke Mjolnir after all.

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tough call. More than classic Thor and around equal to Thor(of). With that being said I think Bor could defeat Thor, but just didn't.
Why didn't he? Bor lost for a reason, do you believe it was luck? Was Bor slower? Strength and durability aren't the only factors.

Warlord Yes, I am...
Originally posted by Trackz
Ok if you believe that can you provide something you believe contradicts the example, someone you believe got hit harder than superman yet went no where.

yeah...anyone got hit by doomsday should be orbiting earth at once...which is not the case

Trackz Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thor's focused power output was enough to overcome Bor's durability. That's about it. The attack broke Mjolnir after all.
So thor was overall more powerful?

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by Trackz
So thor was overall more powerful?

I don't think so. He was just able to muster up more power in a single swing. Bor was in the process of the releasing his energies and Thor put everything he had into Mjolnir. Such an attack isn't something that Thor could have survived either. Bor's durability couldn't handle the attack.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Trackz
yea, the fight was pretty even until the very end. However, Bor is put on a pedestal as if he is untouchable, if OF thor beat him that means he is in some way weaker than OF Thor, whether it be in strength, speed, or durability i'm not sure. Or possibly they are even, in which case OF Thor vs Current Superman would make a better topic since Bor's lack of feats make this more of a conceptual debate than a factual one.
No, people just see him as beating Superman. That's hardly even approaching untouchable levels.
Originally posted by Trackz
Why didn't he? Bor lost for a reason, do you believe it was luck? Was Bor slower? Strength and durability aren't the only factors.
Thor was powerful enough to beat Bor. Superman is not powerful enough to beat Bor. This pretty much solves your dilemma and the debate at hand.