Originally posted by carver9
The sun eater koed Superman. Stop using the mag feat, there were humans in the background pulling along with Superman; the feat isnt impressive. Galaxy sized planets. 😕 wtf; are you adding to a comic like you always seem to do.
The Sun Eater's explosion hurt Supes but it didn't decimate him, a lesser being would have died or at least suffered severe injuries. Supes absorbed the Mageddon Warhead that was going to wreck the Earth, a weapon capable of obliterating a system, Bor's attacks aren't in that league.
Apokolips and New Genesis by New Gods v3 are both the size of galaxies at least. Supes survived being caught in the middle of their collision without visible damage.
Originally posted by carver9
No crossover being used, Thor durability feats (blunt force trama)>>Supermans.
Based on the Bor fight and Destroyer beams? Get out of here. Surviving the collision of Apokolips and New Genesis alone puts his blunt durability above those feats. He has some of the best blunt and sharp point durability in comics, and with good reason if you knew the character.
Originally posted by Allankles
The Sun Eater's explosion hurt Supes but it didn't decimate him, a lesser being would have died or at least suffered severe injuries. Supes absorbed the Mageddon Warhead that was going to wreck the Earth, a weapon capable of obliterating a system, Bor's attacks aren't in that league.Apokolips and New Genesis by New Gods v3 are both the size of galaxies at least. Supes survived being caught in the middle of their collision without visible damage.
What are you talking about, that was just two planet colliding with each other, nothing more, nothing less.
Again, Superman was koed after the explosion (sun eater) so what are you talking about? Then he wasnt even that close to the blast (not discrediting the feat because it was interesting but its not at the level you are putting it. There were planets still in contact after the explosion).
I'm pretty sure he can absorb it since it should be able to amp him but explosion doesnt equal hitting power because if thats the case, bor shouldnt even be able to tickle thor since thor has withstood attack from a furious celestial and was still standing and fighting.
Dr strange confirmed that Thor was amped when he fought Bor. He also confirmed that once he took Back the ODinpower to repair Mjolnir that current Thor at the time would be downgraded back to his classic level.
The fact that Bor broke Thor's rip which is a fact with his freakin fist is a feat that no one has every done before.
So Facts even if you don't use Thor's statement on his classic level would of died.
Bor Broken an Amped Thor's rip something no has done before.
Bor when he went all god unleashed Nearlly Killed amped Thor as should at the end of the fight.
Bor phsycially overpowered Thor when then lock hands showing that his strength was equal or higher then amped Thors.
Dr. Strange confirms that Thor was upgraded in power then returned back to his classic level.
Originally posted by Allankles
Based on the Bor fight and Destroyer beams? Get out of here. Surviving the collision of Apokolips and New Genesis alone puts his blunt durability above those feats. He has some of the best blunt and sharp point durability in comics, and with good reason if you knew the character.
I'm not basing it off of anything. I'm basing it off of things hurting Superman in a certain way and actually koing him vs Thor fighting similar beings (possibly stronger) and brushing off their attacks.
Again, energy blast doesnt equal blunt force trama because again, if thats the case, no one short of odin should be able to drop thor.
Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about, that was just two planet colliding with each other, nothing more, nothing less.
Didn't you agree with ODG when he mentioned that Bor's power threatened to destory the planet? That he was unleashing planet busting power? In that case Superman survived planet busting power on a galactic level. As both Apokolips and New Genesis are as large as galaxies moderately speaking.
Originally posted by carver9
Again, Superman was koed after the explosion (sun eater) so what are you talking about? Then he wasnt even that close to the blast (not discrediting the feat because it was interesting but its not at the level you are putting it. There were planets still in contact after the explosion).
I'm saying the Sun Eater had the power of several stars, I'm saying Supes showed his durability by surviving said blast without any serious injuries. Being concust after the blast has nothing to do with anything since Bor isn't going to be dishing out that level of power.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm pretty sure he can absorb it since it should be able to amp him but explosion doesnt equal hitting power because if thats the case, bor shouldnt even be able to tickle thor since thor has withstood attack from a furious celestial and was still standing and fighting.
But surviving the collision of two giant planets without a scratch classifies as blunt force durability, that was my blunt durability feat. Someone mentioned destroyer beams which are an energy attack, that's why I brought up the Mageddon feat which didn't energize Supes btw.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not basing it off of anything. I'm basing it off of things hurting Superman in a certain way and actually koing him vs Thor fighting similar beings (possibly stronger) and brushing off their attacks.Again, energy blast doesnt equal blunt force trama because again, if thats the case, no one short of odin should be able to drop thor.
Essentially you're bringing up low feats. Thor can't beat Thanos, I guess I should hold that against him as Supes has beaten Darkseid who with avatars or not is a being with more powers than Thanos.
Remember also that Darkseid has gotten the better of Supes more times than most people in comics and most of those were post crisis, so it's not like their conflict has ever been one sided.
At least give a few examples of the type of characters that Thor beats that Superman has trouble with without mentioning Cpt. Marvel sucker punching Supes that one time, or some one time JLA villain. Remember also that Supes has single handendly wrecked demon lords and their realms.
Originally posted by AllanklesThor has taken attacks from odin before as has taken attacks from Celestials, Galactus, Mangog.
The Sun Eater's explosion hurt Supes but it didn't decimate him, a lesser being would have died or at least suffered severe injuries. Supes absorbed the Mageddon Warhead that was going to wreck the Earth, a weapon capable of obliterating a system, Bor's attacks aren't in that league.Apokolips and New Genesis by New Gods v3 are both the size of galaxies at least. Supes survived being caught in the middle of their collision without visible damage.
Saying Thor would have been obliterated is wishful thinking at best.
Originally posted by AllanklesCollateral damage isn't proof of anything. With this same kind of reasoning Prime and Ion both failed to destroy the cemetery they were fighting in. It makes for a terrible argument along with the obvious when characters fight on earth it remains intact.
Didn't you agree with ODG when he mentioned that Bor's power threatened to destory the planet? That he was unleashing planet busting power? In that case Superman survived planet busting power on a galactic level. As both Apokolips and New Genesis are as large as galaxies moderately speaking.I'm saying the Sun Eater had the power of several stars, I'm saying Supes showed his durability by surviving said blast without any serious injuries. Being concust after the blast has nothing to do with anything since Bor isn't going to be dishing out that level of power.
But surviving the collision of two giant planets without a scratch classifies as blunt force durability, that was my blunt durability feat. Someone mentioned destroyer beams which are an energy attack, that's why I brought up the Mageddon feat which didn't energize Supes btw.
Originally posted by Allankles
[B]Essentially you're bringing up low feats. Thor can't beat Thanos, I guess I should hold that against him as Supes has beaten Darkseid who with avatars or not is a being with more powers than Thanos.
Superman beating Darkseid is a bad feat for Darkseid, not a good feat for Superman. Darkseid has become jobberseid. More power than Thanos? But he loses to Superman?
Thanos is more powerful than Thor and beats him down every time they fight. It's just that most writers know that and aren't wanking Thor. The same can't be said for Darkseid's relationship with Superman.
Remember also that Darkseid has gotten the better of Supes more times than most people in comics and most of those were post crisis, so it's not like their conflict has ever been one sided.
If that's how you view it then Thanos is more powerful that Darkseid since he constantly beats down people like Thor, Surfer, and Drax consistently.
At least give a few examples of the type of characters that Thor beats that Superman has trouble with without mentioning Cpt. Marvel sucker punching Supes that one time, or some one time JLA villain. Remember also that Supes has single handendly wrecked demon lords and their realms.
Anyways, Bor's going to kill Superman. Just because DC decide to have Superman beat down Darkseid doesn't mean the same thing will apply here.
Originally posted by carver9supernova explosions (like suneater explosions i'm guessing which are 50 times as powerful) carry on for near 100 light years, because you're not at the epicenter of of such an explosion doesn't mean you don't feel the energy from the blast.
What are you talking about, that was just two planet colliding with each other, nothing more, nothing less.Again, Superman was koed after the explosion (sun eater) so what are you talking about? Then he wasnt even that close to the blast (not discrediting the feat because it was interesting but its not at the level you are putting it. There were planets still in contact after the explosion).
I'm pretty sure he can absorb it since it should be able to amp him but explosion doesnt equal hitting power because if thats the case, bor shouldnt even be able to tickle thor since thor has withstood attack from a furious celestial and was still standing and fighting.
Originally posted by Allankles
Essentially you're bringing up low feats. Thor can't beat Thanos, I guess I should hold that against him as Supes has beaten Darkseid who with avatars or not is a being with more powers than Thanos.Remember also that Darkseid has gotten the better of Supes more times than most people in comics and most of those were post crisis, so it's not like their conflict has ever been one sided.
At least give a few examples of the type of characters that Thor beats that Superman has trouble with without mentioning Cpt. Marvel sucker punching Supes that one time, or some one time JLA villain. Remember also that Supes has single handendly wrecked demon lords and their realms.
Thats about right. Some will never get it. 😮💨
Supes
supermans feats:
planet explosion:
http://img296.imageshack.us/i/boomsupes22ez.jpg/
he was in the planet when it happened, even if yo uthink he made it off the surface, the force of the planet carries for several hundred thousands of kilometers into space.
tanks a GL blast at full power, he's fine and is even talking to GL:
http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=e00_supeskyle2.jpg
tanks a blast fro msteels entropy aegis armor (power to destroy a city) he does this several times:
http://img219.imageshack.us/i/1018ra.jpg/
the blast sends a plume of gas that leaves the atmosphere, and superman is fine:
http://img450.imageshack.us/i/1563wj.jpg/
takes punches that knock him off the planet (none of bor's hits had this force):
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1863ag.jpg/
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1875nn.jpg/
again:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1880ny.jpg/
http://img515.imageshack.us/i/1928sx.jpg/
hit through the earth:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6682/1967eu.png
punched through by emperor joker, didn't fall unconscious:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2874/2005be.png
this is just going through a little of the respect thread, has OF thor matched these?
Originally posted by Trackz
supermans feats:
planet explosion:
http://img296.imageshack.us/i/boomsupes22ez.jpg/
he was in the planet when it happened, even if yo uthink he made it off the surface, the force of the planet carries for several hundred thousands of kilometers into space.tanks a GL blast at full power, he's fine and is even talking to GL:
http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=e00_supeskyle2.jpgtanks a blast fro msteels entropy aegis armor (power to destroy a city) he does this several times:
http://img219.imageshack.us/i/1018ra.jpg/the blast sends a plume of gas that leaves the atmosphere, and superman is fine:
http://img450.imageshack.us/i/1563wj.jpg/takes punches that knock him off the planet (none of bor's hits had this force):
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1863ag.jpg/
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1875nn.jpg/again:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1880ny.jpg/http://img515.imageshack.us/i/1928sx.jpg/
hit through the earth:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6682/1967eu.pngpunched through by emperor joker, didn't fall unconscious:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2874/2005be.pngthis is just going through a little of the respect thread, has OF thor matched these?
YUp it is call the Thor respect thread go check it out lol 😆
