Bor vs Superman

Originally posted by Mindset
No, I get your "point", it just doesn't make sense.

If Bor was fighting evenly with someone who is above Superman, then he would be above Superman, the fact that it's his only feat is irrelevant.

Originally posted by Trackz
it makes it impossible to debate seeing as i could bring to the table superman taking stronger hits, fighting faster, and showing more skill and it still wouldn't matter, that's the problem that I have with using that kind of logic, and the problem with using characters with limited appearances in vs. topics.

Originally posted by Trackz
Bor isn't like galactus or odin though, I understand what you're saying, but i'm not exactly sure such a system works well in a forum environment. it makes the whole thing kind of useless when you think about it. basically i could bring all the feats to the table but they wouldn't matter because some people have the notion that Bor is simply above anything Superman could do.

That's not a knock on Superman he just can't beat everyone. Sorry. Bor's in another league.

Originally posted by Mindset
You have scans of Superman taking hits stronger than what would oneshot classic Thor?

as far as this goes I concede that based on the assumption that Bor is as powerful as people think he is he could beat superman.

Originally posted by Trackz
i was just making a point about trying to use that type of logic in a fight overall, not with this fight in mind.

as far as this goes I concede that based on the assumption that Bor is as powerful as he showed he was he could beat superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bor kills Superman before he can do enough damage with his quicker attacks. There are some characters beyond Superman such as Thanos, Destroyer, Galactus, Thor(of), King Thor, Rune King Thor, Bor, Seth, etc. that he just can't beat here.

That's not a knock on Superman he just can't beat everyone. Sorry. Bor's in another league.

Originally posted by Mindset
Fixed.

Originally posted by Trackz
I'm not sure that it is as clearcut as you make it sound and i could care less if you "knocked" on superman, he is a character after all, but see my other post

Originally posted by Trackz
...mature

But, ok.

Originally posted by Trackz
well actually galactus and odin to have feats that eclipse both thor and superman

Originally posted by DarkOdin
PLease post some feats of Odin or Galactus puching someone and destroying mountian ranges or destroying a moon or damaging a planet like superman did when he foungh Zod

Originally posted by Trackz
odin has destroyed galaxies in his fights hasn't he? galactus destroys planets like it's nothing, both things superman couldn't really do.

Originally posted by Trackz
supermans feats:
planet explosion:
http://img296.imageshack.us/i/boomsupes22ez.jpg/
he was in the planet when it happened, even if yo uthink he made it off the surface, the force of the planet carries for several hundred thousands of kilometers into space.

tanks a GL blast at full power, he's fine and is even talking to GL:
http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=e00_supeskyle2.jpg

tanks a blast fro msteels entropy aegis armor (power to destroy a city) he does this several times:
http://img219.imageshack.us/i/1018ra.jpg/

the blast sends a plume of gas that leaves the atmosphere, and superman is fine:
http://img450.imageshack.us/i/1563wj.jpg/

takes punches that knock him off the planet (none of bor's hits had this force):
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1863ag.jpg/
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1875nn.jpg/

again:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/1880ny.jpg/

http://img515.imageshack.us/i/1928sx.jpg/

hit through the earth:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6682/1967eu.png

punched through by emperor joker, didn't fall unconscious:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2874/2005be.png

this is just going through a little of the respect thread, has OF thor matched these?

Your first scan, Superman wasnt on that planet when it exploded. In the comic it was a count down and he made it in time. If he knew that he could tank the blast, he wouldnt have flew off like he did. He only felt the shock wave of that planet exploding (and it really didnt explode, it was still there when he left, it was just invisible, so you really cant count it as a planet exploding attack).

That blast wasnt impressive, the buildings around it was destroyed by it was still standing. Wasnt that much calateral damage at all and he wasnt even in the blast, from what we seen he is outside of the bubble.

Tanks a blast from steel huh? Show the scan after that.

So he took a punch that knocked him off of the planet and thats suppose to be a good thing. Well let me show you something. This is classic rogue being punched by binary. So I guess bor cant knock rogue out either.

http://img503.imageshack.us/i/uncanny171page19zx8.jpg/
http://img513.imageshack.us/i/uncanny171page20vi0.jpg/

Hit through the earth, I didnt look at the scan but is that from a comic futuring bizarro. Please dont tell me you used that or are you talking about the doomsday one? I'll look at the scan in a minute.

Originally posted by Trackz
odin has destroyed galaxies in his fights hasn't he? galactus destroys planets like it's nothing, both things superman couldn't really do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So by your examples anyways, Odin is greater than Galactus?

nice try though.

you have used the arguement that some of the statements made in superman's comics are hyperbole, statements are hardly sturdy enough evidence to judge a characters powerlevels, (sentry stalemating galactus and such)

Originally posted by Trackz
no by my examples both of them>superman

nice try though.

you have used the arguement that some of the statements made in superman's comics are hyperbole, statements are hardly sturdy enough evidence to judge a characters powerlevels, (sentry stalemating galactus and such)

Originally posted by Trackz
you have used the arguement that some of the statements made in superman's comics are hyperbole, statements are hardly sturdy enough evidence to judge a characters powerlevels, (sentry stalemating galactus and such)

While the old comments like "This blast could kill a million galaxies" and "he's going a gazillion times faster than ligthspeed" are all silly and worn out, someone claiming that they would be defeated by someone else, is an entirely different thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just stated Odin can destroy galaxies but Galactus can destroy planets....you are picking and choosing.

Originally posted by Trackz
as examples of things superman couldn't do. use context.

What a goddamn loser.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I always forget that Superman has never destroyed a planet.

What a goddamn loser.