Originally posted by Warlordsuperman has been clobbered, in one fight, gl had to catch him in air, in his fight with superman, at the time I don't believe either of them were strong enough (their biggest punch was only able to shatter glass), any particular fight you're thinking of?
yeah...anyone got hit by doomsday should be orbiting earth at once...which is not the case
Originally posted by Kris Blazeso you think it was by chance, he just got in the swing first.
I don't think so. He was just able to muster up more power in a single swing. Bor was in the process of the releasing his energies and Thor put everything he had into Mjolnir. Such an attack isn't something that Thor could have survived either. Bor's durability couldn't handle the attack.
Originally posted by TrackzHow does that mean OF Thor vs. Supes would be a better topic when Regular Thor is on par with Supes?
yea, the fight was pretty even until the very end. However, Bor is put on a pedestal as if he is untouchable, if OF thor beat him that means he is in some way weaker than OF Thor, whether it be in strength, speed, or durability i'm not sure. Or possibly they are even, in which case OF Thor vs Current Superman would make a better topic since Bor's lack of feats make this more of a conceptual debate than a factual one.
What you're saying doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by quanchi112...hardly, seeing superman has hit people harder than that hit (his fight with his earth-2 self destroyed earth-2 and sent them between realities), what has OF Thor done with his strength that makes you believe Superman couldn't match the force.
Mo, people just see him as beating Superman. That's hardly even approaching untouchable levels. Thor was powerful enough to beat Bor. Superman is not powerful enough to beat Bor. This pretty much solves your dilemma and the debate at hand.
Originally posted by TrackzDue to the events which were occurring at that particular point in time. You leave out the very important context behind the feat. It's so easy to call you on this bias.
...hardly, seeing superman has hit people harder than that hit (his fight with his earth-2 self destroyed earth-2 and sent them between realities), what has OF Thor done with his strength that makes you believe Superman couldn't match the force.
Two classic thor's have also effected multiple planes of reality which doesn't mean they can defeat Bor together.
Originally posted by Mindsetmost posters here seem to be saying OF Thor=Bor, the problem most people are having is Bor's lack of feats, with OF thor having more feats it would make for a more logical debate. here it's all conceptual and people are steering toward using ABC logic because that is really all that can be done with a character who has only fought one person, one time. Then it becomes a conceptual debate, how high they believe OF Thor or Bor is in the hierarchy of characters, most people are saying that Bor is simply above Superman when in fact we really don't have many feats to suggest that other than his fight with OF Thor. OF Thor and Superman can at least go feat for feat, making the winner much more clean cut.
How does that mean OF Thor vs. Supes would be a better topic when Regular Thor is on par with Supes?What you're saying doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by Trackz
most posters here seem to be saying OF Thor=Bor, the problem most people are having is Bor's lack of feats, with OF thor having more feats it would make for a more logical debate. here it's all conceptual and people are steering toward using ABC logic because that is really all that can be done with a character who has only fought one person, one time. Then it becomes a conceptual debate, how high they believe OF Thor or Bor is in the hierarchy of characters, most people are saying that Bor is simply above Superman when in fact we really don't have many feats to suggest that other than his fight with OF Thor. OF Thor and Superman can at least go feat for feat, making the winner much more clean cut.
Not really we know how strong OFThor is that is how we can gauge Bor strength/durability base off of OF THor.
The same could be send about Sun-dipped superman we know how strong Superman is and base on that we know Sun-dipped is above Superman.
Then you have to use common sense to try to place him on the food chain
Originally posted by TrackzEh how many of them die again 10 issues later after then just be brought back to life????
main characters aren't killed off a lot, but Punisher, Blade (killed and brought back), Batman(at least seemingly killed), Superman, Kitty Pryde and other X-men have died in their team book, the fact is it isn't unheard of.
Originally posted by TrackzWell thats part of the point Of-Thor has been compared to Superman and he is a level above him since Bor roughly was equal to OF-Thor .... well you can fill in the blank
it would make more sense than superman vs. Bor a character who really doesnt have any feats, he appeared to be equal with Thor
Originally posted by DarkOdinthe common sense being used here is coming i nthe form of ABC logic, which is plain wrong.
Not really we know how strong OFThor is that is how we can gauge Bor strength/durability base off of OF THor.The same could be send about Sun-dipped superman we know how strong Superman is and base on that we know Sun-dipped is above Superman.
Then you have to use common sense to try to place him on the food chain
If the common belief is that Bor=OF Thor, then a OF Thor vs. Superman would be better. based on feats though superman has been hit and has dished out hits that generated more force than those in Thors fight, he is also significantly faster.