WW3 Black Adam vs King Hyperion

Originally posted by Blanket
Except when Jay goes lightspeed.

I said other heroes. And Martian's an idiot. Nobody there was stronger than BA that we saw in that scan/comic. The only one he fought that was, was in the regular 52 series and that was Thunderbolt.

I already answered that. Her senses didn't help her detect every single blow that Zoom threw, or even half of them. Or even Batman's sneak attack.

I will argue with you, because you're dumb enough to believe that Hyperion can defeat 616 Galactus.
The writers made him beat an alternate Galactus, not 616.
Following your logic. Thor can snap Sentry's neck, kill him. Thor can snap Hulk's neck, kill him. Surfer can one shot kill Thor, etc. All because it happened in an alternate issue, and they should be the same power level.

Nevermind the fact that 616 Galactus is stated to be different than the rest.

The only time Jay can go light speed is when he speed steal. His norm speed is 2000mps.

You fail to realize that most of those heros that fought adam held back. That was also mentioned in the arc. "The difference in this fight is that we hold back. Adam, he doesnt hold back, he give it his all in every punch".

If she Wonder Woman was blind, I still dont think she'll be able to see every blow that Zoom was throwing at her. I have yet to see wonder woman fight at light speed or even close to it, especially on the level Zoom fight at.

Again, argue with marvel on why they let Hyperion kill Galactus. From what I seen of alternate versions of Galactus, they tend to still be universal/Galaxy threats.

Originally posted by carver9
The only time Jay can go light speed is when he speed steal. His norm speed is 2000mps.

You fail to realize that most of those heros that fought adam held back. That was also mentioned in the arc. "The difference in this fight is that we hold back. Adam, he doesnt hold back, he give it his all in every punch".

If she Wonder Woman was blind, I still dont think she'll be able to see every blow that Zoom was throwing at her. I have yet to see wonder woman fight at light speed or even close to it, especially on the level Zoom fight at.

Again, argue with marvel on why they let Hyperion kill Galactus. From what I seen of alternate versions of Galactus, they tend to still be universal/Galaxy threats.

So, who's stronger than BA that fought him?

Thank you for proving my point for me. lol, did you think about that before you posted it?

I don't care what Marvel does to an alternate Galactus though. Because it's not as powerful, in fact, 616 Galactus is the first. Thanks for being ignorant though. 'Argue with Marvel', well no, because Marvel isn't trying to feed me this horseshit down my throat and then turn around and say he could beat 616 Galactus based on essentially nothing.

Originally posted by Blanket
Or when he's running lightspeed.

So, who's stronger than BA that fought him?

Thank you for proving my point for me. lol, did you think about that before you posted it?

I don't care what Marvel does to an alternate Galactus though. Because it's not as powerful, in fact, 616 Galactus is the first. Thanks for being ignorant though. 'Argue with Marvel', well no, because Marvel isn't trying to feed me this horseshit down my throat and then turn around and say he could beat 616 Galactus based on essentially nothing.

Jay Garrick has NEVER went light speed without speed stealing. His speed was toned down. Thats why he needed the aid of Black Adam to go light speed, because he couldnt achieve it under his own power, he had to take speed from another source.

Those were second tier people that he fought so I'm pretty sure black adam was either equal to some or stronger than them because, again, he doesnt hold back like that people that he was fighting.

I didnt prove you right about anything. Zoom combat speed>>>>>Wonder Woman and thats a FACT. So no matter if she was blind or not, she wouldnt have seen the punches coming anyway.

It doesnt matter if that Galactus is more powerful than 616, its still an impressive feat since all galactus tend to be at a universal level threat.

Originally posted by Blanket

lol at the arrow in the arm though. Doesn't make sense, but that's piercing damage for you.

It looks just caught in his clothes in the top half of the picture.

Originally posted by carver9
Jay Garrick has NEVER went light speed without speed stealing. His speed was toned down. Thats why he needed the aid of Black Adam to go light speed, because he couldnt achieve it under his own power, he had to take speed from another source.

Those were second tier people that he fought so I'm pretty sure black adam was either equal to some or stronger than them because, again, he doesnt hold back like that people that he was fighting.

I didnt prove you right about anything. Zoom combat speed>>>>>Wonder Woman and thats a FACT. So no matter if she was blind or not, she wouldnt have seen the punches coming anyway.

It doesnt matter if that Galactus is more powerful than 616, its still an impressive feat since all galactus tend to be at a universal level threat.

Oh, but Martian Manhunter said that there were people stronger there, no?

Would that make them... a SURPRISE?

You see, the thing here is that you said Hyperion could beat 616 Galactus. And brought up the alternate Galactus as well. You also if I'm not mistaken said that alternates don't change unless Marvel says so. You also said that Marvel thinks that Hyperion can beat Galactus, and that it wasn't just a throwaway name, it was to show his power. Am I getting all this correctly? So, why does it not matter now?

And no they aren't. Exiles Surfer Galactus was the biggest puss ever. One was Elvis, and one had an extremely hard time with Hulk.

Seriously, a couple of Green Lanterns, MM, and Powergirl should be way more than enough to take down BA. I hold the WW3 BA story in the same regards as I hold the WWH story,,,,,,garbage.

I still think King Hyperion destroys Black Adam and its not even close.

Well, when you take away all his feats, then ya, KH wins.

Adam still ftw

Originally posted by quanchi112
Adam's history with MM also kept adam from destroying him as well.

I mean MM was doing fine. melting his face and stuff and he didn't use intagibility, invisibility or shapeshift...
In a PIS free scenario I think he takes him 6/10

Originally posted by Warlord
I mean MM was doing fine. melting his face and stuff and he didn't use intagibility, invisibility or shapeshift...
In a PIS free scenario I think he takes him 6/10

BA would still be ripping intangible faces off against this new introduced MM though.

Originally posted by Blanket
That would have to be some sort of super MM. One that uses those powers that is.

BA would still be ripping intangible faces off against this new introduced MM though.

He usually doesn't...🙁
I see Fernus beating Adam for example

Originally posted by Kris Blaze

^ That's Donna Troy, correct?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
^ That's Donna Troy, correct?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on?

king hyperion stomps

Originally posted by tkitna
Seriously, a couple of Green Lanterns, MM, and Powergirl should be way more than enough to take down BA. I hold the WW3 BA story in the same regards as I hold the WWH story,,,,,,garbage

Originally posted by iceman24567
Adam still ftw

king hyperion is king thor level

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
king hyperion is king thor level

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
superman himself has done something similiar.
captain marvel himself plowed through 10 thousand kryptonian once.