Originally posted by zinaldo
Death explained that her hunger scared the fundamental forces of the universe because she was a human mutant with unlimited potential for growth.
Did you look at the scan?
"if there is anyone that exeeds my limits, its Galactus"-Jean
HoM Wanda is the most powerful mutant. She is tens of times more powerful than Franklin, Galactus, and Phoenix COMBINED.
Jean isn't even close.
There are still Jamie Braddock and Mad Jim Jaspers. Both are more powerful than Phoenix.
Originally posted by -Pr-
pr1983what possible feats do you think put her on that level?
Im gonna see if I can get my scanner to work. But im sure someone like Mr.masters or Galan has got the scans.
Originally posted by galactusischereHoM Wanda is the most powerful mutant.
She is tens of times more powerful than Franklin, Galactus, and Phoenix COMBINED.Jean isn't even close.
Originally posted by -Pr-what possible feats do you think put her on that level?
Oh, she also nullified the mutant gene, affecting 90% of the race, across all Timelines.
HOM Wanda was like GOD in that arc.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Tearing the entire Omniverse to pieces,
while simultaneously remaking 616 into her personal mutant paradise.
then putting it all back with a thought?Oh, she also nullified the mutant gene, affecting 90% of the race, across all Timelines.
HOM Wanda was like GOD in that arc.
I've always wondered, was HoM wanda more powerful than Bradock and/or Jaspers??
Originally posted by galactusischereI've always wondered, was HoM wanda more powerful than Bradock and/or Jaspers??
HOM Wanda is one of the most powerful beings ever to appear in the Marvel Universe.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Tearing the entire Omniverse to pieces,
while simultaneously remaking 616 into her personal mutant paradise.
then putting it all back with a thought?Oh, she also nullified the mutant gene, affecting 90% of the race, across all Timelines.
HOM Wanda was like GOD in that arc.
Did the Chaos wave tear through the multiverse? ✅
Did she consciously create, power and direct this chaos wave? ❌
Was the chaos wave triggered by the reality alteration Wanda caused? ✅
Is the destruction caused by the Chaos Wave therefore a feat of Wandas or just something she indirectly brought about ? 😖hifty:
Was it stated on panel that Wanda could barely keep herself together and she required the support of her brother Pietro to change reality in 616? ✅
Does it look like a mutant with Phoenix potential has been born in spite of "GOD" Wandas efforts? 😖hifty:
Thats enough. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Phoenix at full power is greater than Galactus at full power. No one can credibly argue any differently.
Galactus ate a celestial. Galactus has better feats. There is no proof that Phoenix created Galactus. Galactus can easily kill Phoenix with a trigger of the UN.
Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus ate a celestial. Galactus has better feats. There is no proof that Phoenix created Galactus. Galactus can easily kill Phoenix with a trigger of the UN.
You mean an alternate reality Galactus ate a Celestial and as stated on panel that was after he was physically altered by the Dreaming Celestials manipulations. So you have two counts against your theories-
1) It was 616 Galactus
2) It was an altered Galactus
Your argument is therefore redundant. As for your point that Galactus can kill the Phoenix, it is canon that the Phoenix Force cannot be killed by any means. It is mutable, indestructible life force. It can transfer between states but it cannot be killed. The point is stated and shown on panel and verified by its handbook entry. Hosts can have their physical bodies destroyed but the Phoenix within cannot die.
You keep talking about how Rachel fought a hungry Galactus. You're correct, however Galactus went on to explain during that fight just why it wouldnt have mattered either way.
Galactus has limited energy reserves. He requires outside sources to replenish himself. A Phoenix avatar has limitless reserves that its hooked into and can draw upon. So Galactus could eat a planet, attempt to fight Phoenix and it wouldnt make a difference, he'd run out of energy and then get consumed. Galactus is a planet eater. His biggest feat is blowing up a few star systems in an outburst of energy during Annihilation. Phoenix is at a universal level the sentient Big Bang. One of its many avatars held the 616 universe that Galactus is a mere component of in the palm of her hand after materializing it there atom by atom. A point verified by Jean Greys handbook entry which states she can manipulate atomic structures on a universal scale. Thats way beyond Galactus. Be objective and accept that. 😬
I've never posted on here before, as to be honest my comic knowledge isn't on nearly the same level as everyone else's, but I just wanted to say that I have quite enjoyed reading Galactic Storm's posts in this thread. They're well thought out, logically structured and clearly written. Keep up the good work 😉
Wanda's loose grip on reality was her only weakness
Jean was an Omega level mutant with telepathy and telekinesis. And Omega level mutants have potentialy limitless potential in there field. which is why the Phoenix force chose her. Adding Pyrokinesis and reality alteration.
Franklin is still inexperienced and Galactus has'nt existed no where long as it.
And Rachel's failure to restrain Galactus previously was due to the fact that the Phoenix Force's power is weighed by the host's hold on it.