king thor vs superman prime

Originally posted by Blanket
Except it isn't. What if in the future Prime takes a full on assault by Spectre and laughs it off? What if that happens in the future instead of him getting hurt? My future prediction is just as good as yours is, isn't it? I'm going to take a firm stance on what has happened so far in comics, though. IE, with Prime never being affected by magic.
Hell yes I assumed that King Thor's 'smack' would be useless, as a 'smack' is less than what Mordu did. I hope you appreciate the irony.

I'm guessing a Juggernaut 'smack' would be less than a King Thor 'smack' with Mjolnir... so, ya.

K. So, 'Magic can't hurt me', now directly goes into Superman's history, instead of the obvious implications of that statement. My writer intention guessing is as good as yours, so I'm going to say that's not what the writer meant at all.

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The funny thing I find about this argument, is that for someone who was trolling me based off of the direct use of a word sure as hell makes an assload of assumptions.

Ok, so King Thor smacking Superman Prime would be useless. And Juggernaut smacking Superman Prime would be useless. So then beings like, Spectre, or Radiant or Zauriel punching Superman Prime would be useless also, right?

Yes, it does go to Superman's history, since Superman Prime read all of Superman's comics and would react in such a way to rub it in people's faces that he wasn't vulnerable in the same way as his idol, Superman, to prove he was better.

Only, you're the one who led us to believe that such a word as "immune" was ever applied to Superman Prime. So call it trolling all you like. I'm just arguing with your position.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So it wasn't magical in nature you say? The blast i mean?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Your future prediction isn't as good. Because you're taking off-color statements to their furthest possible extreme without accounting for what it could mean. You're stretching them to their utter limits without accounting for all circumstances. Which will be further revealed once you finish answering my line of questioning.

Ok, so Juggernaut smacking Superman Prime would be useless. So then beings like, Spectre, or Radiant or Zauriel punching Superman Prime would be useless also, right?

Yes, it does go to Superman's history, since Superman Prime read all of Superman's comics and would react in such a way to rub it in people's faces that he wasn't vulnerable in the same way as his idol, Superman to prove he was better.

Only, you're the one who led us to believe that such a word as "immune" was ever applied to Superman Prime. So call it trolling all you like. I'm just arguing with your position.

I'll give you a serious response, and a ODG literal response to this question.
First, ODG literal.
Well, I'm betting Spctre doesn't 'smack' that hard, and Radiant doesn't look like she can 'smack' hard either.

Serious.
Considering all the times Spectre failed against something, and if Prime is indeed immune like what we are led to believe, then it's not far fetched to say that he fails there. Especially if it happens in a comic... because I guarantee it would happen.
Radiant is a little different I believe, as I don't believe she's actually been stated as magical, and iirc (been a while), her power is basically what God wants to happen. It wouldn't end well for Prime.
And Z. Well, we already saw what happened to him against Prime...

Is that exactly what was meant by it? You can't take it any other way? Because that is certainly an option, but when it goes onto things like Mordu, and smashing an angel's sword... I don't think it's just a way of rubbing it in Superman's face. Especially when he outright says it doesn't hurt him/it tickles. If something isn't hurting him, especially an angel's sword, then... it's not just a case of that being a rub and tug of himself. Especially since you also have to assume a bit to get to where you got.

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And that's what I've been doing ever since you brought that ridiculous argument up. 🙂

Originally posted by Blanket
Mine is as good. And considering you downgrade my ability to tell the future based on really nothing, then I say your future telling isn't as good since I'm using comics.
Anyway, taking something from comics to the extreme is still a better guage than using nothing at all, don't you say? Magic doesn't hurt Prime so far in comics. If it happens next Wednesday, or next year that he gets utterly decimated by a blast of pure magic, then it will still be irrelevant to what is happened so far. Can you not see this? If he is exposed, then so be it. It will still be irrelevant to this conversation. And besides the obvious joking around of my last post, what if he is indeed shown to tank Spectre's blasts? What if he does tank someone with extremely high magical powers (cough Mordu)? Certainly that thought has to enter your head when you think of such things as exposing it as a myth, does it not?
Which is why you can't use the future as an indication for what is happening here and now.

Originally posted by Blanket
I'll give you a serious response, and a ODG literal response to this question.
First, ODG literal.
Well, I'm betting Spctre doesn't 'smack' that hard, and Radiant doesn't look like she can 'smack' hard either.

Serious.
Considering all the times Spectre failed against something, and if Prime is indeed immune like what we are led to believe, then it's not far fetched to say that he fails there. Especially if it happens in a comic... because I guarantee it would happen.
Radiant is a little different I believe, as I don't believe she's actually been stated as magical, and iirc (been a while), her power is basically what God wants to happen. It wouldn't end well for Prime.
And Z. Well, we already saw what happened to him against Prime...

Originally posted by Blanket
Is that exactly what was meant by it? You can't take it any other way? Because that is certainly an option, but when it goes onto things like Mordu, and smashing an angel's sword... I don't think it's just a way of rubbing it in Superman's face. Especially when he outright says it doesn't hurt him/it tickles. If something isn't hurting him, especially an angel's sword, then... it's not just a case of that being a rub and tug of himself. Especially since you also have to assume a bit to get to where you got.

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And that's what I've been doing ever since you brought that ridiculous argument up.

superman prime

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Except I was steering you to something that happened on-panel... watch: Ok, so Spectre smacks Superman Prime and fails to hurt him. And maybe Radiant smacks Superman Prime and fails to hurt him? And Zauriel smacks him and fails to - except wait... Zauriel did smack him and did hurt him. Yes that is Zauriel's fist... and that is Superman Prime yelling, "That hurts!" Doesn't get more clearly on-panel that this:

Oops on you! peaches

^ Do we ignore that he wasn't immune to Zauriel's punch? Which is pretty much diametrically opposed to your prediction?

His head moved from Zauriel, while getting hit by other heroes.
Must have been all Zauriel.

^ The punch was all Zauriel. And the cry of pain was all Superman Prime. *shrugs*

The punch in the face was.
The choke, the apparent punch in the back, and the punch in the stomach wasn't though.

^ Zauriel's punch still hurts. Unlike your prediction that it would tickle. peaches

Nope. That's the part that took away from the pain of the stomach punch. The tickling distracted him.

Is it safe to say that a spell would not work on prime?
What if thor tries to stop time for example?

Originally posted by Warlord
Is it safe to say that a spell would not work on prime?
What if thor tries to stop time for example?

definitely

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Except I was steering you to something that happened on-panel... watch: Ok, so Spectre smacks Superman Prime and fails to hurt him. And maybe Radiant smacks Superman Prime and fails to hurt him? And since we already saw what happened to Zauriel and Prime... Zauriel smacks him and fails to - except wait... Zauriel did smack him and did hurt him. Yes that is Zauriel's fist... and that is Superman Prime yelling, "That hurts!" Doesn't get more clearly on-panel that this:

isn't that a severely weaken Prime??he send them flying the moment he got a little sunlight..

1 The Odinforce is not magic it is divine, If you need a further defintion of divine compared to magic "a least in Odin's case." The Odinforce is Odin's godly energy and that of his two brothers.

2. We have seen the flashes hurt prime and BFR him with the speed force so time stop or BRF will work on Prime.

3. Thor could just amp his strength, Durability, speed etc.. to fight prime.

4. Captain American's sheild has been dented by king Thor's amp mjolnir blows also so yes prime will feel this.

5. This fight is close to classic Thor and Reg. Superman battle but on a higher scale.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
isn't that a severely weaken Prime??he send them flying the moment he got a little sunlight..

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Except I was steering you to something that happened on-panel... watch: Ok, so Spectre smacks Superman Prime and fails to hurt him. And maybe Radiant smacks Superman Prime and fails to hurt him? And since we already saw what happened to Zauriel and Prime... Zauriel smacks him and fails to - except wait... Zauriel did smack him and did hurt him. Yes that is Zauriel's fist... and that is Superman Prime yelling, "That hurts!" Doesn't get more clearly on-panel that this:

Oops on you! peaches

are those....tears?

it's Prime...of course they're tears...😉